Next year's XI
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2018 10:27
Here's my new thread which I got interrupted when starting last night.
Well played Marcus today, but I'm afraid I tend to agree with those who have said that he gets out for 0 in the first over far too often to be a sound foundation for an innings, and if he is to play in the Championship next year he should bat around 5/6, though it would mean a restructuring of the top order. How that might be arranged will require further thought.
Eddie Byrom's inability to push on to big scores cost him his place, but isn't giving a solid start the prime function of an opener? My feeling is that he is well worth keeping.
Ben Green and Tom Banton have both shown commendable tenacity in trying circumstances on debut. Ben could make a career as an opening bat/back-up bowler (though we already have Tom A), or as a third seamer and 7/8 batsman (though we have a fair few of those already too).
Tom B could make a career as a top-level opener, or as a WK/batsman in the middle order (we have one of those too - an extremely popular brand at present).
we have a load of different options, all promising but inconclusive. If only this were a computer game we could simply try one, and reload the last saved position if it didn't work. Sadly...
Clearly the overseas has to be a top-three batsman - from four down we are either settled or have too many options. I'd love to have Renshaw back for as much of the season as he's available, but whoever we get we can only play two of Eddie, Ben, Tom B and George B in the top three - or only one if, e.g., Tom A moves back up to 3 to accommodate Marcus at 5/6 (should Marcus be willing, which he might well not be).
I would very much like to see George B back in the side, but am not convinced that he's better suited to 3 than 5, where we have a surfeit of options already. What does the team think?
Well played Marcus today, but I'm afraid I tend to agree with those who have said that he gets out for 0 in the first over far too often to be a sound foundation for an innings, and if he is to play in the Championship next year he should bat around 5/6, though it would mean a restructuring of the top order. How that might be arranged will require further thought.
Eddie Byrom's inability to push on to big scores cost him his place, but isn't giving a solid start the prime function of an opener? My feeling is that he is well worth keeping.
Ben Green and Tom Banton have both shown commendable tenacity in trying circumstances on debut. Ben could make a career as an opening bat/back-up bowler (though we already have Tom A), or as a third seamer and 7/8 batsman (though we have a fair few of those already too).
Tom B could make a career as a top-level opener, or as a WK/batsman in the middle order (we have one of those too - an extremely popular brand at present).
we have a load of different options, all promising but inconclusive. If only this were a computer game we could simply try one, and reload the last saved position if it didn't work. Sadly...
Clearly the overseas has to be a top-three batsman - from four down we are either settled or have too many options. I'd love to have Renshaw back for as much of the season as he's available, but whoever we get we can only play two of Eddie, Ben, Tom B and George B in the top three - or only one if, e.g., Tom A moves back up to 3 to accommodate Marcus at 5/6 (should Marcus be willing, which he might well not be).
I would very much like to see George B back in the side, but am not convinced that he's better suited to 3 than 5, where we have a surfeit of options already. What does the team think?
Re: Next year's XI
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2018 13:16
If we decide to go down the route of an England-qualified opener, in addition to a top 3 overseas recruit, one player out of contract at the end of the season is Taunton-born Louis Reece at Derbyshire.
Hugely ironically, his gentle left-arm medium pace earned him career best figure of 7-20 against Glo`shire today.
But his main role at Derbyshire is opening the batting, and he is third in their championship averages this season behind Ben Slater, now with Notts, and Wayne Madsen, who today signed a new three-year contract despite rumours he would be joining Yorkshire, Reece is batting at 35.38, but has only played in six championship matches this season because of injury.
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Hugely ironically, his gentle left-arm medium pace earned him career best figure of 7-20 against Glo`shire today.
But his main role at Derbyshire is opening the batting, and he is third in their championship averages this season behind Ben Slater, now with Notts, and Wayne Madsen, who today signed a new three-year contract despite rumours he would be joining Yorkshire, Reece is batting at 35.38, but has only played in six championship matches this season because of injury.
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Re: Next year's XI
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2018 16:03
Easy.
Tres Eddie Renshaw Hildy Tom Steve Lewis Craig Jamie Jack Jack
Tres Eddie Renshaw Hildy Tom Steve Lewis Craig Jamie Jack Jack
Re: Next year's XI
Posted by: Monkey Butler (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2018 16:08
You'd be lucky to win a championship with two openers that average in the mid twenties though.
Reece's left arm pace would offer a more little variety and a bit more rough for Dom. I thought he had two years left though? Trying to get Renshaw back should be a must IMO.
Reece's left arm pace would offer a more little variety and a bit more rough for Dom. I thought he had two years left though? Trying to get Renshaw back should be a must IMO.
Re: Next year's XI
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2018 16:35
Isn't Renshaw likely to feature in the World Cup ?
Followed of course by the Ashes.
Grizzzly
Followed of course by the Ashes.
Grizzzly
Re: Next year's XI
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2018 17:18
Jack Brooks will certainly increase Somerset`s selection options net summer - for more reasons than one.
He has taken three five-fers in just five matches for Yorkshire, since the announcement of his signing by Somerset - and all of those vital matches - and today contributed 82 from 99 balls to a 171 ninth wicket partnership with Gary Ballance at Worcester.
In fact, I see that as recently as last year`s Roses match at Old Trafford he hit his maiden century.
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He has taken three five-fers in just five matches for Yorkshire, since the announcement of his signing by Somerset - and all of those vital matches - and today contributed 82 from 99 balls to a 171 ninth wicket partnership with Gary Ballance at Worcester.
In fact, I see that as recently as last year`s Roses match at Old Trafford he hit his maiden century.
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Re: Next year's XI
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2018 18:37
Mikeindex - if what Grockle was told by the groundstaff is correct - that we will be going with deliberate millponds next season, then is it really the case that the next overseas 'must,' be a top three batsman?
Renshaw is liable to be selected for the Ashes, barring a disastrous domestic season Down Under.
If we're going to be playing on very flat pitches then medium-fast, pitch it up and look for swing merchants such as Lewis, Jack Brooks, Tim G and Josh Davey might be a little out of luck, unless overhead conditions are favourable.
Jack Leach *might* be with England (winter results pending).
It might be, IMO, that - if we're going to play on really flat decks - then we should look to add some variety to the bowling attack - be that a left-arm paceman or, possibly, a wrist spinner. Equally, a second bowler with genuine pace, to go with Jamie, might be a consideration.
But all of that depends on whether or not we're going to be building roads, by design, nex t season...
Renshaw is liable to be selected for the Ashes, barring a disastrous domestic season Down Under.
If we're going to be playing on very flat pitches then medium-fast, pitch it up and look for swing merchants such as Lewis, Jack Brooks, Tim G and Josh Davey might be a little out of luck, unless overhead conditions are favourable.
Jack Leach *might* be with England (winter results pending).
It might be, IMO, that - if we're going to play on really flat decks - then we should look to add some variety to the bowling attack - be that a left-arm paceman or, possibly, a wrist spinner. Equally, a second bowler with genuine pace, to go with Jamie, might be a consideration.
But all of that depends on whether or not we're going to be building roads, by design, nex t season...
Re: Next year's XI
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2018 23:20
In all honesty I think Matt Renshaw is only an outside bet to make the final 15 for Australia's world cup squad. To get him for the first three and a half months of the season would surely be beneficial; he proved this year he plays well against a moving ball in early season conditions. Although the ideal is an overseas player who can commit to a whole season such players are as rare a rocking horse do-dos, probably more so in a world cup year.
Plus if we don't hire him you can bet someone else will. And I'd like to think the Somerset-Renshaw romance is something that could flourish for years to come.
Plus if we don't hire him you can bet someone else will. And I'd like to think the Somerset-Renshaw romance is something that could flourish for years to come.
Re: Next year's XI
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 29 September, 2018 00:28
Matt Renshaw is in the 15-man Australian squad to play two Test against Pakistan in the UAE, starting in October 7. This will be followed by an ODI series, with the team announced for that at the end of the Test.
His performances this winter will provide strong guidance on whether he makes the Australian World Cup and Ashes squads next summer - and hence his availability (or lack of it) as an overseas signing for Somerset.
His performances this winter will provide strong guidance on whether he makes the Australian World Cup and Ashes squads next summer - and hence his availability (or lack of it) as an overseas signing for Somerset.
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