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Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 23 January, 2018 20:41

Reading an awful lot into this chaps.

Hurry could not have been clearer that he demands a better start this year to last and many before.
We think we have got stronger pre season fixtures.
We have a big tent due mid Feb to get grass training in earlier than past years too.

I personally am not sure this slow start thing can be compared year on year.
Everything changes. Weather opposition home or away games pitches players player availability management.
I see no way we can link the start in say 2010 to last year and say "we always start slowly"

If Bancroft fails in early games it will have nothing to do with fact team started slowly in 2017.
So much changes year on year things just arent comparable.

Same goes for not having beaten xxxxx county for xxx years.
Once that stat goes over 3 or 4 years in all likelihood the players involved are largely different so this bogey side thing is meaningless.

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 24 January, 2018 04:15

You certainly are.... I was simply commenting on the English phraseology rather than the context in which it was used in the AGM.

Of course they know what they are supposed to do

Of course the professional cricketer is rarely complacent about a very poor run of form

Of course they all see that things have to get better

Is was simply that the phrase suggests that people have to be told that as if they are unaware of it (note to self don't forget the 'TiC' at the end in future)



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Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
Date: 24 January, 2018 11:45

Tractor: I trust your flabber is feeling a litte less ghasted now, especially after Bristol City's very creditable performance yesterday evening.

One thing the new lights will do is detect which players - only opposition ones of course - have taken illicit substances.



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Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 24 January, 2018 12:06

Oh dear. What have I done. The phrase was mine. I knew not what I said. I don't and didn't recall when I typed my 'report' precisely what words Andy Hurry used. However as WSM fan says there was no doubting their meaning. A rocket had been delivered. Now there is another phrase to conjure with. However I would say I imagine a rocket delivered by Andy Hurry leaves no-one in any doubt what he means or what is expected!

As per Grockle's instruction I would tic but my emoticons aren't working. Now there is a title for a song.

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Roger ivanhoe (IP Logged)
Date: 24 January, 2018 15:24

Farmer, I should not worry at all, I went to the meeting but did not post anything of the AGM on here as so often use of words are not an exact transcript of what was said, and then get misconstrued, when all we are merely trying to do is to give those members who were unable to attend, a gist of the meetings and it’s Q & A.



As Lee Cooper mentioned at the AGM, regarding the Times interview he did last week, some of his comments were reported wrongly.

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
Date: 24 January, 2018 15:34

"Andy Hurry said the Club has sufficient playing resources to withstand some England calls/injuries but maintains ongoing due diligence on players who might be available to be signed should the need arise."

A worrying trait IMO. Past Directors of Cricket (Maynard and Nosworthy) have just sailed along in the belief that we have a strong enough squad to compete at all levels.

Andy Hurry may send out messages that he is glad to be back at his "home" club and what a wonderful club it is blah, blah, blah, but does he sense that we have a mixture of older players who must surely be at the end of the line (Trescothick and Trego immediately come to mind) and young and as yet untried youth who may or may not make the cut.

We need to start the season with 7 or 8 fast, fast - medium or medium - fast bowlers who could be entrusted to step into the First team and do their bit in the CC. We have a couple (and I don't care how fast they are) who are injury prone and will as sure as eggs are eggs miss out again in 2018. We certainly do not have 7 or 8 from whom we could select and trust to do a good job.

I don't have many concerns over the slow bowling or wicket keeping roles, but one must always be on the look out for back up players.

Abell was found out last year and other batters may well be undone this year. How much will Trescothick play? The batting too must be strengthened, but as usual we will coast into the start of a new season on a wing and a prayer. Leave everything to the last minute cos it will be alright approach.

We weren't relegated last year, but we came within a whisker so it should be another boot up the backside for those who manage our cricket.

The club meanders on in its all too cosy way. Do we advertise senior posts or is it all done on the old boy network? Let us hope that Andy Hurry isn't too close to the players in that they can get away with under-performing.

Until then I reserve judgement.



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 24 January, 2018 18:50

Well you suggested that Jack would be 'found out' last year so we can only hope the same happens this year to Tom and he isn't and has a good season

We weren't relegated the year before either when it was suggested as well so I suppose we have to hope your predictions go the way they usually do overall.

In case you missed it and come back surprised that I agree with you about our bowling. I've already pointed out the same concerns earlier in this thread.

Someone suggested we wouldn't use Bancroft in the T20... was there talk of more than one T20 signing or was the discussion singular?



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Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 24 January, 2018 19:52

Singular as I heard it.

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 24 January, 2018 21:12

We have signed Cameron for 4 day & 50 overs as our overseas.
We are definitely after 2 separate T20 overseas players.
Hurry said we are in advanced discussions with one and an announcement would be made through our normal media sources once confirmed.
It was then a knock on effect as to who we then targeted as the 2nd overseas.
At £40 per ticket we need to offer more than 1 half crocked allrounder that we got last year.....

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 02:04

Very true.

Though on further reflection I'm not sure why there is resistance to Cameron playing in a format he seems to like and perform in. No one is worried about Lewis playing all formats or Steve Davis or others.

I remember someone saying that he will be going home for something during the season and I don't know when that is but if he is here and the choice was between him and some half here half motivated name I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have a player who has got used to his teammates and has already been part of their unit for a while.

That is the way it used to be boys and girls - you got one and he was there for everything.

Anyway the economic policies of the club say we don't need name attractions, we have geared up to sell out fully this time before the competition even starts haven't we?



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Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 08:32

The clubs announcement at the time on their website.

“Cameron will be available, subject to permission from Cricket Australia, for the start of the 2018 Specsavers County Championship season, all of the Royal London One-Day Cup fixtures plus the six remaining Championship matches that take place after the T20 Blast group stages. [www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Shepton Paul 2 (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 09:30

Bancroft currently keeping for Perth in the BBL...

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 11:16

Ahhh Thanks Mike. So he isn't here for the T20. Explains and clarifies. This site is great for lazy supporters.



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Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Shepton Paul 2 (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 11:24

Bancroft (batting at 3) gone for 49 off 39, missed a googly. Good innings.

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 11:32

Yep.... maybe a shame he isn't here - could be his forte



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Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 12:13

That article doesn’t state t20 is an option but all of that could change I guess over time with everyone’s agreement . We may have other t20 targets though !!

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 13:42

Today's Somerset County Gazette states that they were barred from attending Monday's AGM.

What in the name of sanity does the club have to hide, or hope to gain from this action?

A local hack has always been present in the past.



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 14:03

They don't like these things getting out of the CA Pavilion Tom (except by people talking to their mates once out). Last year it was an obsession with websites getting info now its the press.

I have no idea what it is they wish to keep to themselves but the best way to get it out there is to ban the local press.



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Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 15:40

That question was asked at the AGM, Lee Cooper said he told Spencer Bishop the Gazette could attend the meeting.

If they are still saying they couldn't attend the meeting something has gone wrong.

Re: The AGM for 2017
Posted by: cricketharris (IP Logged)
Date: 25 January, 2018 17:13

Has anyone ever heard of the press being allowed to attend any AGM, whether it be a cricket club, charity, business or whatever? Members and shareholders are only those officially allowed to attend and, unless what is discussed there is leaked (evidently a perfectly respectable happening these days) then proceedings are private to members all of whom are able to read the minutes in due course. Why think that it is some sort of conspiracy to not allow the media to attend? Where would it stop?

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