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Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 15 June, 2019 22:11

Surely if its not open to first team players then it is in essence the same as the current Second XI Trophy. Except you will find players who have played first team cricket in that competition.

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16 June, 2019 00:07

As I say I don't think that's the plan. Then again does anyone know what the 'plan' is? Aren't they sort of making up as they go along?



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Re: The Hundred
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16 June, 2019 12:12

I propose that Boris Johnson run The Hundred and Colin Graves the Brexit process. See if anyone could tell the difference...

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
Date: 16 June, 2019 13:14

Surely Grayling should be allowed to apply a touch of his peculiar magic...



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Re: The Hundred
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16 June, 2019 13:25

Grayling can replace Tom Harrison and, thus, serve as Deputy PM to Graves.p

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Roger ivanhoe (IP Logged)
Date: 23 June, 2019 09:31

Not sure if this link should be posted in this thread or Somerset News.
But Andrew Cornish gives his thoughts on the 100.

Somerset County Gazette

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 23 June, 2019 12:54

Well he's right about providing a local 50 over tournament of value and one can only hope that all countirs ignore the ECB "development' marketing ploy for the 100 and put out their strongest sides.

He's also right in saying there is nothing Somerset can do now. The time to make a stand was a while ago and we squandered it along with many others.

I'm not sure we'll lose the 'cream' as long as are willing to invest in the competition.

Given the fact that the ECB has effectively cut the South West of England out of it's top menu white ball tournament anywhere below Birmingham, hoping we get to play later is a bit of a pipe dream for Mr Cornish I would venture. The only way that might happen is if the powers that be abandon their 'urban' idea or the Welsh experiment really is a flop.

We took the 'jam tomorrow' option in the first part of this debacle and that was naive then. Hoping our future prosperity will still come that way is probably daft. Somerset may have to look locally and foster that market. Hoping the central body will suddenly begin to love the provinces again is maybe not a sensible way to go.



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Re: The Hundred
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 15 July, 2019 08:01

I could not be any less of a fan of the hundred.
But this "development" word seems to be confusing some.
There is no rule which says it will be a development competition in the 50 next year.

Very simply the best 100 players from the 18 counties will just not be available to play county 50 matches.
In addition overseas players are not allowed.

We will be hit therefore more than most you would think.
Lets pretend we lose 6 so Banton Hildy Lewis Jamie Craig & RVDM, very possible i'd say.

We could/would then put out the best of the rest, entirely our choice if they are young & untried or normal squad players. So for example.....

Davies Byrom Trego Abell George Green Dom Josh Brooks Timmy G Jack L

We may well chose to use Lamondby Rouse Sale Gilchrist but we arent forced to.

Many other counties who only lose 1, 2 or 3 to the hundred could be relatively uneffected in their 50 over line ups.

I will be at Taunton & various away venues watching my team defend it's 50 over trophy, the hundred could take place at the end of my road & i wouldnt watch it!



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Re: The Hundred
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15 July, 2019 08:07

Under no circumstances will I ever watch a game of Colin Graves @#$%& competition.

Not even if he abolishes all other cricket.

Never.

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 15 July, 2019 20:20

Either CG doesn't know that the ECB have already announced that 50 over one day domestic games will no longer have 'List A' status and are to be treated as 'academy games', or he is once again being grossly disingenuos:

[www.telegraph.co.uk]

Grizzzly

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15 July, 2019 22:22

Moving it to outgrounds will dilute the income drawn from it. But it's not a forward thinking plan. It has to be outground cricket for 8 counties because their main grounds will be in the hands of others.

It's all smoke, mirrors and spin with a little bit of bollox thrown in for good measure. Graves' plan gives counties no option in 40% of cases.



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Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 16 July, 2019 16:55

AG referred to this article elsewhere.

Well worth a read and sums up the shambles as it currently stands:

[www.thetimes.co.uk]

Grizzzly

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 16 July, 2019 17:05

..behind a subscriber entrance fee, unless there is a way to circumnavigate?

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 16 July, 2019 17:20

Apologies Rod.

I think if you register/sign up, you can get two free articles a month (or week ?).

Grizzzly

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Phrench Phil (IP Logged)
Date: 16 July, 2019 17:31

Thanks for the link Grizzzly.
A very interesting article, and I note that one of the co-authors is one Elizabeth Ammon.

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16 July, 2019 20:26

Who like a few others has moved towards this view from a different one over the last few months (though Lizzie was obsessed with the Durham situation in the early days to be fair) as the debacle has been sort of poured out onto the floor in no particular structure. The writers are also moving with their editors towards a seemingly different view.

Mikey Vaughan is not as supportive as he was originally either

Be interesting to see how Bumble moves in the next few weeks

Sinking vessels and hairy @#$%&?

We can but hope but I don't they will let it die so easily.



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Re: The Hundred
Posted by: That Bloke With The Dog (IP Logged)
Date: 16 July, 2019 23:46

I hope it's all right to quote the last three sentences of the Times article here, because they explain well how Sunday's events have overturned a lot of the assumptions behind the Hundred:

In addition to fears about a lack of 50-over cricket hindering England’s prospects of defending the World Cup in India in four years’ time, the success of the recent tournament in engaging new fans, particularly in south Asian communities, has led some to question whether The Hundred is needed.

Some counties are also expected to use the anticipated financial boon that will follow England’s World Cup win to demand a bigger handout from the ECB. As The Times revealed last month, the counties have asked for an extra £27 million over the first five years of the competition in return for signing the contracts, which has proved a further sticking point, and the World Cup success is likely to embolden them further.


Overnight we've gone from resurrecting It's A Knockout to suddenly needing to cater for that massive swathe of the public who have now discovered the real thing. Mumz 'n' Kidz Krazy Kricket isn't going to cut it for those who've been treated to the events of Sunday.

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 17 July, 2019 06:53

Went to pub yesterday afternoon.

Walked up to the bar and the barman said:

"Did you enjoy it?," with no further explanation of "it", but gesturing at me.

I looked down and saw that I was wearing a Lord's anniversary T-shirt.

So I said, "Yeah, it was great."

And the response:

"I've never been a cricket fan, but I've changed my tune now."

I wonder if the ECB might twig that what they need is something good on terrestrial TV, rather than some contrived nonsense, hidden away on Sky. Of course, Sky, aren't likely to pay anything like full bung for something they have to share with other channels, though...So the Egotistical Cricket Board are going to have to make a relative choice between vast sums of lucre and much less lucre, but much more exposure.

Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 17 July, 2019 07:27

Not sure why the actual biological term for a rat has been deemed bad language by the filter but there you go

@#$%& (Rod ents) Don't use this people. . it's BAD!!



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Re: The Hundred
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 17 July, 2019 09:03

Similar story AG - yesterday early evening the barman at our local enthusing about the best cricket match ever and he was glued to the tv all day (his day off) on Sunday. He is a cricket fan though.
We then went on to discuss the nonsense of the 100, the downgrading of the 50 over comp next year - all to two or three other chaps in the pub nodding along in agreement.

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