Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman


By Gaurang
October 27 2008

One man who should get lots of credit for this is current India bowling coach, Bapu Krishnarao Venkatesh Prasad.  Since Prasad has taken over the role of bowling coach in the aftermath of India’s disastrous performance in the 2007 World Cup, and the unceremonious exit of its controversy plagued coach, Greg Chappell, and his side-kick-cum-bowling coach, Ian Fraser, India have gone from having pace bowlers with promise, but inconsistent performance, to having a squad of fast bowlers who deliver nearly every time.  They all seem to know exactly what their strengths and weaknesses are, and more importantly they all seem to be bowling to a plan, and as an unit. 

 

What is also very heartening is that all of Prasad’s wards seem to be learning new skills and adding to their repertoire.  For example Ishant Sharma, the youngest member of the squad, has added a slower delivery, and an out-swinger to his natural in-swing and off-cutters, making him much more effective as a wicket taking bowler.  India has also been able to reverse swing the ball much earlier, and much more effectively than the Australians.  This has been achieved by a combination of perfect seam and wrist positioning, achieved by hard work and practice and not by any dubious means.  

 

This type thinking and ability to put into practice theories about swing and seam, were first evidenced under Prasad when Zaheer Khan, S. Sreesanth and R.P. Singh demolished England in England with their pace combined with unique swing angles that left the English players, normally among the best players of swing and seam, grasping for answers.

 

Later in Australia on a lively WACA pitch in Perth R.P. Singh, Irfan Pathan and Ishant Sharma combined to out bowl an Australian pace battery that included Brett Lee, Shaun Tait, Mitchell Johnson and Stuart Clark. 

 

Finally, on a quite docile bowling track in Mohali, Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma combined to again out bowl an Australian pace attack, which once again included Brett Lee, Mitchell Johnson, Shane Watson and Peter Siddle.

 

What is important to note is that the pitch conditions do not seem to matter, whether it is bouncy like Perth or swingy like Trent Bridge or just a good batting track like Mohali is immaterial.  Also noteworthy is the fact that not just one or two Indian bowlers, but rather the whole squad, including Zaheer Khan, Irfan Pathan, R.P. Singh, Sreesanth and Ishant Sharma have raised their game and bowled with pace and skill under Venky’s tutelage.

 

One of the things that could explain this impact that Prasad has had on the Indian bowlers is the fact that at only 38 years old he is more like an elder brother, than a distant coach/father figure to the bowlers.  Another factor is the absolute integrity of the man, and his genuine concern for his bowlers.  This is often communicated in subtle ways, but can have a big impact on whether what the coach is trying to teach is accepted and internalized by the players. 

 

One example unrelated to cricket that demonstrates the innate decency of the man is when he stopped to help an accident victim lying on the side of the road and rushed him to the hospital where the doctors credited him with probably helping to save the man’s life.  When asked about this heroic act, Prasad dismissed it as simply doing his duty.  In cases like this actions speak louder than words and based on that India’s current bowling coach is both and outstanding coach and gentleman. 

Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Indian Cricket Fever (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 16:44

Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: ananthd (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 17:48

Excellent article Gaurang....

Prasad is indeed proving very beneficial.....

However, I think this has also been the product of the "critical mass" of bowlers trained at the MRF Pace Foundation....

These were the guys who produced the odd Vivek Razdan 5-fer or a very useful debut series for Abey Kuruvilla or the fire of J Srinath and the tremendous variety of cutters of Prasad himself....

But wait: the BCCI in its infinite wisdom have cut off ties with the MRF pace foundation, just this year I think....

Almost every guy(till Sangwan I think) have had their schooling at MRF and this umbilical tie has been cutoff...

The BCCI have nominated the NCA as the sole pace bowler factory with B Arun as bowler coach...

This could be the proverbial shot that killed the golden goose....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:10:27:18:08:37 by ananthd.

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 19:10

BCCI wants TOTAL control...and never will let anything good but INDEPENDENT to flourish...

It is like cutting your nose to spite your face... typical BCCI babu-giri...

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Gabbar (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 20:24

very well written gaurang-

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 20:45

Good Samaritan Venky

Just wanted to add this link here so his good deed is remembered.

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 28/10/2008 23:27

Btw, how many know that Australia's current bowling coach is Troy Cooley who was England's coach during the amazing Ashes win of 2005 when the 4 prong English Attack reverse swung the series out of Australia's grasp...

Cricket Australia immediately bought his contract out and had him coaching the Aussies...

But Venky has OUT COACHED Troy...yet AGAIN...(he did that in Perth too)... yet our media has nary a word of praise for poor old Venkatesh Prasad...

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 29/10/2008 07:22

Great article. Most of the Indian media may not give Prasad any credit, but we at ICF have regularly praised his contribution as bowling coach. Well done Venky and keep up the good work.

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 10/12/2008 23:18

The progress of the pacers under Venky is AMAZING...

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: amit (IP Logged)
Date: 11/12/2008 16:55

venkatesh prasad is the most underrated coach in cricket these days. imagine if it was a white-skinned coach under whom indian pacers did well, then the media would go all over him with with prasad, nothing at all is happening. its time the media gave some credit to prasad

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 11/12/2008 18:14

When you compare the Indian pacers to their West Indian counterparts...you see what great coaching can do...

Of course MRF and Lillee and TA Shekhar etc. also deserve credit..

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 15/12/2008 20:01

The ball of the match...was Ishant Sharma's LEG CUTTER to dismiss Flintoff...

That was the type of ball that Venky Prasad used to get many of his wickets... clearly Ishant has been learning a lot from Venky...smiling smiley

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: jusarrived (IP Logged)
Date: 16/12/2008 07:10

leg cutters & slower balls as well !

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2010 19:32

bump... the man responsible in large part for keeping India's fast bowlers fit and performing was let go by the STUPID BCCI...

Typical!

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2010 19:36

I always thought it was a needless decision to sack him. Indian bowlers were doing much better when Prasad was the bowling coach. Kirsten was a batsman, so who is in charge of the bowlers in the current team management?

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2010 19:39

I thought Kirsten wanted to hire Donald or DeVilliers or one of this other buddies...but right now...Indian bowlers are on their own...

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2010 19:41

Dhoni even is lamenting lack of bowling coach...

Yet BCCI does NOTHING....

MUMBAI: India would benefit from having a specialist bowling coach, captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni said on Friday.

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The Indian cricket board sacked Venkatesh Prasad and Robin Singh as bowling and fielding coaches in October after the country’s early exit from the Twenty20 World Cup in England and the Champions Trophy in South Africa.

India climbed to the top of the test rankings for the first time in December but the team has struggled to establish supremacy in one-day international cricket.

“To some extent it does hurt not having a bowling coach. If you have a specialist coach he is always interacting with the bowlers and trying to get the best out of them,” Dhoni told a news conference on the eve of the team’s departure to Bangladesh.

“He (coach Gary Kirsten) has to look after everything: he has to sit and talk to the batsmen, bowlers, fielders, build strategies and look after team building.”

The Indian board has recruited former Australian fielding coach Mike Young as fielding consultant but has not decided whether to recruit a specialist bowling coach.

India will start the new year with a triangular one-day series involving Sri Lanka and Bangladesh from Jan. 4 followed by two test matches against Bangladesh.

Batsman Sachin Tendulkar has opted out of the tri-series to save himself for the two tests.

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2010 19:48

Now I recall...after Dhoni's complaing Kirsten managed to get is BUDDY Eric Simons as bowling coach... Eric Who???? you ask.. Yeah he was SA coach in 2002-04 and was then SACKED for poor performance...

If he couldn't get his own country's bowler to perform...what chance has he with Indian bowlers... but Kirsten wanted someone he could trust..and who he had a long history with...

Donald and Hadlee who both expressed interest were considered too high profile...(fair enough after the Greg Chappell episode)...but why pick Simons? Venky should have been reinstated...

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 22/05/2010 19:49

If Venky was fired after India did poorly in previous T20 WC...why is Simons not given the boot now?

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 23/05/2010 05:08

Eric who? Didn't even know this guy was the bowling coach. Our bowling stocks have only got worse in the last 1.5 years or so. So yes if Prasad was fired for much less, why is BCCI not acting against this so called bowling coach Simons?

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 23/05/2010 06:08

Actually he was hired only from begining of 2010 till end of SA series... don't even know if his contract was renewed...

BCCI who make ZILLIONS of Rupees can't even hire a decent long term bowling coach...

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2010 07:33

bumps...

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2011 19:21

re-bump....

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2011 19:22

Someone like Venky Prasad would have been a HUGE help here...

He was the man responsible behind the scenes for the Indian pace bowling success here last time...

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: shilpa (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2011 20:33

Dhoni doesn't like Venkatesh Prasad ( or Robin)....so they are out.
dhoni has become an even bigger god....so forget prasad....he ain't coming back until 2013

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2011 20:36

Quote:
shilpa
Dhoni doesn't like Venkatesh Prasad ( or Robin)....so they are out.
dhoni has become an even bigger god....so forget prasad....he ain't coming back until 2013

Do you have some evidence of this... or just a gut feeling?

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: shilpa (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2011 20:59

Quote:
Birbal
Do you have some evidence of this... or just a gut feeling?


there is hardly ever evidence for such things...you must be a lawyer to be talking like that [:wor kid:]


but it is more than gut feel. It's reconstruction of what MIGHT have happened knwoing perosnalities

they ( Prasad and Robin)...must have been diluting dhoni's authority a bit for granted...."we know you kid you just started playing when we were seniors in the side...type of patronizing stuff"....

so he got them out
Ganguly also didn;t last under Dhoni for same reason while the meek/ mild duo of Dravid and VVSL did.

Tendulkar off-course is God....he lives in his own heaven

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 16/01/2012 05:17

bump...

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 23:48

Bump...

In Zaheer, Umesh, Ishant, Praveen Kumar, India has the making of a very good pace attack...needs someone to guide and nurture it...

And needs someone to place attacking fields and bowl wicket to wicket...not defensive mindset and outside off...like Dhoni... and Strauss in this match...

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Martian (IP Logged)
Date: 24/07/2012 15:41

just when we thought we got a very good bowling line up to match our batting prowess, he was removed as coach.

The bowlers were doing great and the results were showing..It also masked our beginning of our batting decline for a while.

we need to bring him & robin singh again asap.

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Meet_New_Mr_India (IP Logged)
Date: 24/07/2012 17:20

right now we need players and selectors who are hungry for success.. specially selectors that have nothing to do with IPL..

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 25/07/2012 07:30

We need to start an online petition or something to BCCI to bring Venky Prasad back as India's bowling coach. He was by far the best bowling coach we have had.

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Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2013 19:42

Bump to inspire the hapless English bowlers...smiling smiley

Re: Venkatesh Prasad: A Coach And A Gentleman
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 09/01/2014 18:20

Johnson, Lee, Tait and Clark were out bowled by Indian bowling unit at Perth...in 2008

England had no such inspiration....smiling smiley

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