Sussing Sussex T20
By Grockle
June 14 2011
Down to Hove for a full game...we hope. A few injuries in the camp seem to have decided the side we put out. Alfonso is still struggling, Lewis has been stung by a wasp and Nick has a neck problem. In comes Craig Meschede and Gemaal Hussain keeps his place. With the weather the way it is at the moment we could do with an emphatic win in this one.
v Sussex FLT20 @ Hove Tuesday 14 June 2011
The side starting this game is;
Trescothick, Kieswetter, Trego, van der Meuwe, Hildreth, Buttler, Suppiah, Meschede, Kartik, Hussain, Kirby
Sussex have won the toss and put us in and Murray Goodwin has started with his lower order bowlers with Ollie Rayner opening to Kieswetter who opens suprisingly. Marcus gets down on strike and slog sweeps the young spinner for six but Liddle, who opens from the other end produces a maiden in his first. We are 8 for 2 after 12 balls. Parnell takes over three and probably will bowl no more after it as he seems to pull a hamstring just after the skipper hits him for a second six. He finishes his over after treatment but it will be doubtful if he bowls any more.
Liddle continues the surprise and his first ball has Craig trying to swat the ball over the in-field. He fails miserably and is caught off a skier as he miscues. 17 for 1 after 19 balls. Peter Trego strides out but later in the same over he misjudges a slower delivery, top edges and is caught behind withot scoring. 18 for 1. This brings RvdM out early and although he settles quickly we are still only at 24 by the end of the 5th (bowled by Luke Wright).
Marcus looks to push the score along and is doing his job well until he punches one halfway through the 7th and is well caught by an aware Wright on the boundary rope. 42 for 3 is not where we want to be and the skipper has gone with 33 from 23. James Hildreth is the next man in, and the next man out within one ball as Rayner tempts him and he obliges into the keeper's hands. 43 for 4 and Jos Buttler finds himself in at the start of the 7th with RvdM having to push the score along.
Before the end of the 9th, Reolof makes another mistake getting under a shot for six and falling short to be caught in the deep after the score is pushed just over 50. 52 for 5 and we did not need that at all!! Now it is down to Arul and Jos to turn this into something. Terrible batting and excellent bowling, especially from Liddle and Rayner! We are a long way from getting anywhere near winning this one with Panesar on at the other end now and little coming off the bat. After 10 it is 54 for 5 - very poor!
The schoolboy cricket continues as Arul is up the wicket to defend against Rayner, he misses the ball and is STUMPED - DEFENDING!! 55 for 6 is ludicrous - simply schoolboy stuff. Rayner is on for four wickets for almost nothing. That becomes a five fer as Jos capitulates with a mistimed C&B 56 for 7 and this just gets worse and worse.
Meanwhile Craig Meschede has comeout to make his T20 domsetic debut and neither him or his partner Murali Kartik would have expected to be in in the 13th over trying to make something out of this carnage. Not a lot is expected because Goodwin is just bringing on Rana Naved - just what you want if you're a Somerset fan!!
Naved does his job fooling Meschede with one he takes the pace off. Craig comes up the wicket but does not get to the pitch of the ball and therefore simply pops the ball up in the air and is outat 76 to go and join his sheepish team-mates on the Somerset bench. Gemaal arrives for the 15th and he and MK actually put some kind of defence up. Mostly from the bat of the Indian we make it to 90 before he is bowled by Wright at the end of the 17th. He goes for 19 - a decent score tonight but little to hope for as the last man Kirby comes out to face Naved. He survives a ball but we can expect little else and Rayner takes a diving catch as Hussain chips a slower Naved ball up. All out for 90.
I'll report on the defeat at the end I'm off to watch something far more interesting than this for an hour. Terrible - if we play like this again we deserve to be out of this and Keiron will be making a trip for nothing. This is as pathetic a performance in this form as I've seen from the men and it isn't going to get any better in the next 90 minutes I can assure you.
Well it wasn't actually a totally true assessment because the bowling and fielding effort by the side was a real mirror image of our batting performance. But although we kept at the Sharks for 17 overs, Murray Goodwin saw them home and we lost by four wickets. On to Chelmsford and Essex needing a win.
v Essex FLT20 @ Chelmsford Wednesday 15 June 2011
Essex put us in and reap the whirlwind of last night's appalling work from the side. Marcus Trescothick starts well but we lose Craig Kieswetter to Masters early for 7. It is 27 for 1 with just one ball of the 5th gone but this is followed by a storming 36 off 21 balls with 4 fours and a six and we are 2 runs short of 100 when he goes at 98 with the captain in his pomp and just over 10 overs and 2 balls gone.
Enter James Hildreth and that was all she wrote! His 64 off a mere 29 balls with 4 more fours and 3 sixes accompanies the Boss's highest T20 score of 108 in 62 balls with 12 fours and 5 sixes as we rack up 225! The two men added 127 off 9.4 overs - brilliant.
But the rain is coming down and we have to hope for at least 5 overs of play and some tight bowling.
Sussing Sussex T20
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:42
I think we'll struggle to even make 140 here unless Jos really fires
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:44
looking like one-man Charlies in front of the cameras so far - poor shot by Hildreth
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:44
We'll struggle to make 100 at this rate, why are we so pathetic when the Sky cameras come to town!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: samaithai2 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:45
Brilliant catch by the mighty one. Second time i've seen the boys play in seven years. Not impressed.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:46
I hope Somerset had a practice match they haven’t played a match for nine days.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:46
Micky Mouse cricket.
It's why Luke Wright has carved a niche.
It's why Luke Wright has carved a niche.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:48
Sky were raving about Rashid at the weekend, now its Luke Wright. Do these commentators actually watch any real cricket?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:49
Watching this at work but turning off now.
Bring on the CC.
Bring on the CC.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:49
We are batting rather brainlessly!!
VDM now out 52-5 Arrghhh!
VDM now out 52-5 Arrghhh!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:50
Wright hasn't carved a niche - did you see his bowling figures? Averages 57 in this cricket - probably, I would guess a worse record than anyone else in the land?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:51
Only if you pay for the petrol.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:51
Good grief, just get on the bus and head back down the M4 lads.
Truly shocking stuff tonight.
Truly shocking stuff tonight.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:55
Poor shot decision gives Rayner 4 for 17 as Arul goes up the wicket to defend, misses and is stumped 55 for 6. Awful!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:55
Awful from arul too - we smashed the really bad sides in this group but, in 2011, it's obvious we are not good enough to deal with the really good sides like Sussex and Hants
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:55
What will be the excuses tonight?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:56
And now Buttler!! knocks one back to Rayner who gets a fifer
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:57
5 for Rayner and the schoolboys keep coming out to give Sussex the game!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: samaithai2 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:58
2 0'clock here. Good night
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 19:58
Might as well turn the coach around and go home now
Make the batsmen bowl when Sussex come out to bat - don't want to risk any injuries to proper bowlers in this mickey mouse garbage
Make the batsmen bowl when Sussex come out to bat - don't want to risk any injuries to proper bowlers in this mickey mouse garbage
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:03
For Godsake please please please no more hype hype hype and waffle. The old experienced brigade will hopefully be given a rest and lets see if the youngsters can do better.
Of course the abuse will be against my comments and not the side's performance.
Our only hope is to have a field placing consisting of 4 slips and every one else saving one, and pray!.
Of course the abuse will be against my comments and not the side's performance.
Our only hope is to have a field placing consisting of 4 slips and every one else saving one, and pray!.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:05
Dreadful bowling by Monty - not even trying to take a wicket, by the looks of it
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:08
me and you both Old Boy. About the comments I mean.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:08
old boy - they could certainly do with taking all that marketing drivel off the website about our devastating hitting knocking things out of space or whatever it was - just sets us all up for a fall
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:09
Meschede gone as Naved fools him with a slow one and he pops it up. 77 for 8
If you're about Ronnie THIS is a Defeat!!
If you're about Ronnie THIS is a Defeat!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:12
Hang on Grockle. The match isn't finished yet. Why the negativity?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:15
Can we please have some faith in our YOUNG spinners etc. See who got us in this mess tonight - Off Breaks!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:23
dont worry OB everything is ok. Speak to Big Jim he'll keep you right
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:24
We looked very under-cooked tonight! Loss of two matches really should not have caused this!
We never came to terms with losing wickets. No plan B?
We never came to terms with losing wickets. No plan B?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:25
I'd say we got ourselves into our own mess, Old Boy, I don't think Rayner did anything at all special with the ball
Just thought we looked unprepared, unfocused and like a batting line-up without a plan
Just thought we looked unprepared, unfocused and like a batting line-up without a plan
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:25
This one's in the bag, isn't it, BJ?
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:28
We will win I have no doubt about that.
BJ.
BJ.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:29
Quote:ronnies
Hang on Grockle. The match isn't finished yet. Why the negativity?
Because I'd be embarrassed to win this one but you can certainly post "I told you so" if you believe they can get out of this one :-)
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:32
The wicket does look to have a bit in it, a few stopped or stuck in the pitch and a few bounced quite a bit.
I don't think 90 will be enough, but if there is a clatter of early wickets, there must be some chance. If they get off to any sort of a start though, I fear we are doomed :-(
Go on lads surprise us!
I don't think 90 will be enough, but if there is a clatter of early wickets, there must be some chance. If they get off to any sort of a start though, I fear we are doomed :-(
Go on lads surprise us!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:38
Well Gemaal is more up for it than I am!! Well done boy.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:38
AGod
Fair does - you may be right. However I have always believed that decent spinners or slow/medium in 20/20 are an absolute must in the tip-and-run game. The batter has to put the pace on the ball, whereas the quickies very often help the hitters.
Fair does - you may be right. However I have always believed that decent spinners or slow/medium in 20/20 are an absolute must in the tip-and-run game. The batter has to put the pace on the ball, whereas the quickies very often help the hitters.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:40
I was going to say embarassing but since that has been taken I'll go for pathetic! Awful shot selections by some and perhaps they felt someone else would take responsibility.
Its looking like a crunch game tomorrow night now.
Its looking like a crunch game tomorrow night now.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:43
well grockle my lad are you joining the so called half empty brigade? A wins a win in my book regardless of embarressment.
I would never say "I told you so" its not my style but I think it may be for others.
I would never say "I told you so" its not my style but I think it may be for others.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:45
Well bowled Steve Kirby. Make me look a plonker boyz I don't mind.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:46
Well, I've just got in so I don't feel as bad as the rest of you. I can watch it or not, so I guess your advice would be, not.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:48
Yes, old boy, i agree with you in general
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:49
Well done Bossman another pearler!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:54
Ande now Craigy comes to the party!! 23 for 3
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:55
After the inept batting display this is now about taking wickets. As I keep saying 8 more balls will do it....although even myoptimism is little dented tonight. I pity Essex though. Or as I type 7 more balls great catch Craig
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 20:56
But he's been better than most of ours tonight. But as Ron quite rightly said...there's still time.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:04
Don't understand why we've put the field back for Kartik?
Have to bowl them out - should not put men back just because the rules say you can, imo
Have to bowl them out - should not put men back just because the rules say you can, imo
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:04
We need Goodwin and MK needs a five-fer
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:12
The first LBW shout was very close.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:20
Keeping us interested!
Get rid of Goodwin and....??
Get rid of Goodwin and....??
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:22
Very brave effort in the field
Had we batted with any brain-----
Had we batted with any brain-----
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:33
I'm sure you will all think me perverse as we stare defeat in the face but today convinces me that have a very good chance of winning the t20... and I didn't think that before.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:35
I think Tres has missed a trick, or two. When Kartik was bowling we needed to have more men in as they were picking of the singles building an innings. We need someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck, why not Arul?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:35
And that's 5. The catching has been very good.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:37
What makes you think that GM? I am still optimistic of qualifying but we are clearly off the top two in terms of consistency.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:40
They've all peaked too soon!
Oh for 10 more runs just now!
Oh for 10 more runs just now!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:44
What happens to the RR if Sussex takes the same number of overs to get the runs that we did?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:44
Swings and roundabouts. Goodwin got a bad decision but Kartik could well have had his first lbw shout.
We let them milk several singles - but in the end we just didn't turn up with the bat other than Tres :-(
We let them milk several singles - but in the end we just didn't turn up with the bat other than Tres :-(
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:45
The best way to deal with this type of night is - HUMILITY!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:46
Good question my little canary. The answer is I think that we shall qualify. We are capable of beating anyone and caqn wn 3 games in the knockout. I thinkthe batting will have learnt soemthiung from tonight and the bowlers didn't do badly. Add Alf and it changes. I think my basic instinct is that we have got our one really bad performance out of the way. 2 more wins this week and we are still in the mix.
I could be wrong of course.
I could be wrong of course.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:48
Yeah, the critical issue in the field was that you cannot allow uncontested singles when defending a low total
We needed to risk losing the same more rapidly if we wanted to win -- meaning we needed to squeeze the new batsmen
This was especially the case when Kartik was bowling to a relatively new batsman -- I thought we made the same error when the same bowler was bowling at Lord's in the Pro 40 final last season
We needed to risk losing the same more rapidly if we wanted to win -- meaning we needed to squeeze the new batsmen
This was especially the case when Kartik was bowling to a relatively new batsman -- I thought we made the same error when the same bowler was bowling at Lord's in the Pro 40 final last season
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:50
I think the answer to the run rate question is that we are deemed to have had 20 overs ans Sussex have whatever they take.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:50
Only worry Geordie is that they have to keep learning from these experiences!!
We're "fancied" but we are by no means a "certainty" at any time in any game!!
We're "fancied" but we are by no means a "certainty" at any time in any game!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:51
I think thats the issue SJB. I think we are flat track bullies who will bat well at Taunton but struggle to adapt in this form of the game away from home apart from Tres. If we dont find that then Im afraid Geordie I think you are wrong we will not win this. We may not even qualify if we cant get any games on at Taunton either.
Teams away from home now have a plan against us (insert and take the pace of the ball) and we dont have an answer. Big issues tomorrow at Chelmsford. Two teams playing poorly against each other. If Friday is to be off then we must win this. Lose and it will be difficult.
Teams away from home now have a plan against us (insert and take the pace of the ball) and we dont have an answer. Big issues tomorrow at Chelmsford. Two teams playing poorly against each other. If Friday is to be off then we must win this. Lose and it will be difficult.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:52
"The truest way to be deceived is to think oneself more knowing than others."
(Old Chinese Proverb)
(Old Chinese Proverb)
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:56
Worst news of all is that Marcus said Kartik went off near the end
If he's injured and can't make Edgbaston as well as Alf, that would be a disaster -- hopefully something trivial for Kartik
If he's injured and can't make Edgbaston as well as Alf, that would be a disaster -- hopefully something trivial for Kartik
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:57
DidI just hear Trescothick say Kartik was injured too!!! What a joy!!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 21:57
Positivity doesn't last long with you does it Ron?
Though you have every right to be talking about a poor performance tonight.
"Flat track bullies" is such a cliche. Taunton isn't to blame for brainless batting.
You're right Chelmsford is a bigger game because of this.
Though you have every right to be talking about a poor performance tonight.
"Flat track bullies" is such a cliche. Taunton isn't to blame for brainless batting.
You're right Chelmsford is a bigger game because of this.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:01
Fair points Geordie - lets hope our batsmen find form this week and get one foot in the quarters.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:02
Compo might have been good today, or if we were chasing, putting Arul at 3. 20 runs short in the end and missing some sensible accumulating,
Decent effort in the field. Hope the injuries aren't too bad. Maybe just hand/finger bruising ?
Decent effort in the field. Hope the injuries aren't too bad. Maybe just hand/finger bruising ?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:03
Marcus himself did say that we don't seem to adapt to the fact we're not batting on the flat track at Taunton, though
And looking at a couple of those early shots, you have to say that's spot on --- Craig got nowhere near the pitch of his shot and Pete virtually tried to pull a pretty full delivery -- neither man had his 'eye,' in at the time as they had not long been at the crease
There were other poor shots, too, but it was those two that were the "We're playing at Taunton," shots
And, yes, my keyboard is having a water-related malfunction and the full stop key no longer works [but may start working again at some point in the future as defective keys have slowly been becoming operative again, one by one]
And looking at a couple of those early shots, you have to say that's spot on --- Craig got nowhere near the pitch of his shot and Pete virtually tried to pull a pretty full delivery -- neither man had his 'eye,' in at the time as they had not long been at the crease
There were other poor shots, too, but it was those two that were the "We're playing at Taunton," shots
And, yes, my keyboard is having a water-related malfunction and the full stop key no longer works [but may start working again at some point in the future as defective keys have slowly been becoming operative again, one by one]
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:04
Just realistic Grockle I think thats what I would describe my comments as. No point camouflaging the truth in my opinion.
t20 is a funny game and can change quickly so nothing would surprise me if we won tomorrow. Equally it wouldnt surprise me if we lost......expect the unexpected. Who would have said Hants would have won last year out of the 4 finalists?
By the way after 6 games if a team have 3 defeats and 3 victories how many points do they have? Guess what!! thats how many we have........interesting!!!!
t20 is a funny game and can change quickly so nothing would surprise me if we won tomorrow. Equally it wouldnt surprise me if we lost......expect the unexpected. Who would have said Hants would have won last year out of the 4 finalists?
By the way after 6 games if a team have 3 defeats and 3 victories how many points do they have? Guess what!! thats how many we have........interesting!!!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:06
If things don't work out this season, there's always next. Let's face it, at time s this season we have looked a poor side, no lack of effort, but don't just accept defeat, believe in yourselves and concentrate all the time.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:07
The current table suggests there are two really good teams - both of whom have beaten us - two execrable ones - and that everybody else is mediocre
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:09
thanks AG.............it seemed that way to me too. Need to adapt batting better away from Taunton, brainless or not!!
Seemed to me too that the way MT was talking that Alf is really doubtful for Monday too!!!
Seemed to me too that the way MT was talking that Alf is really doubtful for Monday too!!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:12
Well, if he's 'not right,' in the nets on Tuesday then I think we can take it as read that a four day game starting on Monday is very unlikely
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:16
maybe max will get a game as he will be the only one left standing.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:17
Moving on to Chelmsford tomorrow, Essex will be without hard-hitting all-rounder Graham Napier, who picked up a Grade 1 hamstring injury at The Oval last night.
They have drafted in seamers Chris Wright and Maurice Chambers, and former captain Mark Pettini into a squad of 13:
Bopara, Shah, Walker, ten Doeschate, Styris, Foster, Wheater, Phillips, Southee, Wright, Master, Pettini and Chambers.
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They have drafted in seamers Chris Wright and Maurice Chambers, and former captain Mark Pettini into a squad of 13:
Bopara, Shah, Walker, ten Doeschate, Styris, Foster, Wheater, Phillips, Southee, Wright, Master, Pettini and Chambers.
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:19
I bet Max watching from the dugout wish he was out in the middle bowling on a used wicket that was spinning.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:22
I bet he did, Mike
And if we'd assessed the wicket correctly [before the game] then Max might have played instead of Craig M - then again possibly not as Marcus seemed to reject the notion [when asked] that the spinners were going to be his best weapon in this one and, of course, Arul's bowling was ignored
And if we'd assessed the wicket correctly [before the game] then Max might have played instead of Craig M - then again possibly not as Marcus seemed to reject the notion [when asked] that the spinners were going to be his best weapon in this one and, of course, Arul's bowling was ignored
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:25
No need to camouflage your opinion Ron but I have to agree with CP's proverb at times when you so confidently call it the 'truth'.
So is Taunton a flat batting track then boys and girls? Thought we'd been saying that it was much more of a testing wicket now than it was? Please make up your mind which side of the question you fall because I've personally seen some of the most competitive cricket there this season I've seen in a long while.
But based on your assessment I assume James won't play for England. Jos is not the talent we thought he was. Craig will struggle to play for the national side on anything but a flat Test pitch? Pete has no international future. Arul is only a decent player on flat pitches.
Shame we rated them all when they can only play at one ground...damn!
Isn't it more of a case that they may be out of touch because of a lack of gameplay? The pitch was "sticky" for everyone really or are both those arguments completely overshadowed by the fact that Somerset play at Taunton?
Everything can be so clear can't it? But is it really? Or is just harping on another argument that we've all heard before. Marcus mentioned the lack of game practice as well...why is that discounted? Because he said the magic T word and it's everyone on the Taunton bandwagon once more?
We may be complacent and idiotic in their shot selection once they find themselves in this mode but suggesting this side can't bat on any other surface means this season is over as is every other one until we move from the nightmare that is HQ - we've been here soooooo many times before.
So is Taunton a flat batting track then boys and girls? Thought we'd been saying that it was much more of a testing wicket now than it was? Please make up your mind which side of the question you fall because I've personally seen some of the most competitive cricket there this season I've seen in a long while.
But based on your assessment I assume James won't play for England. Jos is not the talent we thought he was. Craig will struggle to play for the national side on anything but a flat Test pitch? Pete has no international future. Arul is only a decent player on flat pitches.
Shame we rated them all when they can only play at one ground...damn!
Isn't it more of a case that they may be out of touch because of a lack of gameplay? The pitch was "sticky" for everyone really or are both those arguments completely overshadowed by the fact that Somerset play at Taunton?
Everything can be so clear can't it? But is it really? Or is just harping on another argument that we've all heard before. Marcus mentioned the lack of game practice as well...why is that discounted? Because he said the magic T word and it's everyone on the Taunton bandwagon once more?
We may be complacent and idiotic in their shot selection once they find themselves in this mode but suggesting this side can't bat on any other surface means this season is over as is every other one until we move from the nightmare that is HQ - we've been here soooooo many times before.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:25
I am beginning to wonder why we employ so called experts? Getting it wrong is becoming a habit.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:29
If the Taunton flat pitch is mentioned in the after match report I hope they don't say later in the season how much the pitches have changed this year at Taunton.
Edit - I didn't read Grockle post time 22.25 before posting
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Edit - I didn't read Grockle post time 22.25 before posting
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:06:14:22:32:43 by Mike BOS.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:30
"So is Taunton a flat batting track then boys and girls? Thought we'd been saying that it was much more of a testing wicket now than it was? Please make up your mind which side of the question you fall because I've personally seen some of the most competitive cricket there this season I've seen in a long while. "
As I suspect you know all too well, Grockle, I think folks are talking about the one-day wickets at Taunton - I certainly imagine that that's the context in which Marcus himself was talking
We've greened up some of the CC pitches but I've heard nothing to indicate that the tracks for the one day games have been anything other than excellent batting tracks?
As I suspect you know all too well, Grockle, I think folks are talking about the one-day wickets at Taunton - I certainly imagine that that's the context in which Marcus himself was talking
We've greened up some of the CC pitches but I've heard nothing to indicate that the tracks for the one day games have been anything other than excellent batting tracks?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:33
In low scoring games, the side batting second has a big advantage in that they know the target. If they can keep wickets intact and rotate the strike, then they should be able to pick off the bad balls.
I think we set off as if we wanted 200. Another 5 overs of Marcus would have seen us OK though and he didn't do much wrong really. It is a bit of a no win situation though, if you try to bat sensibly, then fall short. folk will say that you should have taken full advantage of the first 5 overs, when the field was up.
I think we set off as if we wanted 200. Another 5 overs of Marcus would have seen us OK though and he didn't do much wrong really. It is a bit of a no win situation though, if you try to bat sensibly, then fall short. folk will say that you should have taken full advantage of the first 5 overs, when the field was up.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:37
But why are the side paying well and inconsistently on both types at home?
Either they can't play on testing pitches or they can...which is it?
You can't have it both ways.
Either they can't play on testing pitches or they can...which is it?
You can't have it both ways.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:46
I wasn't aware that they had played inconsistently on the plum home one day batting tracks? I thought all one day home games this season had ended in victory (or been abandoned without a ball bowled)??
The CC pitches are a bit different but then it's a different game in the CC as don't need to hit the cover off it. Based on your own comments on the CC it sounds to me like they've sometimes tried to play in almost one day mode - as vs Warks - and failed and when they've succeeded on the spicier pitches they've been a bit more diligent?
The CC pitches are a bit different but then it's a different game in the CC as don't need to hit the cover off it. Based on your own comments on the CC it sounds to me like they've sometimes tried to play in almost one day mode - as vs Warks - and failed and when they've succeeded on the spicier pitches they've been a bit more diligent?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 22:58
Quote:Grockle
No need to camouflage your opinion Ron but I have to agree with CP's proverb at times when you so confidently call it the 'truth'.
My quotation wasn't intended to be a slight to any poster on here, Grockle, and most certainly not to Ronnie.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 23:09
Have been out today, so not seen any of this on TV, but have read all the comments and online match reports. Clearly a bad night at the office, esp on the batting front, but probably on a two-paced previously-used pitch?..sounds like Max might have been a good call.
Anyway, decent effort by the bowlers and by Tres. Seriously need to up our batting game tomorrow (similar to how we were for game two after a poor game one ten days ago).
I agree we still have a good chance of qualification for last eight - at which point it's anyone's competition. There do seem to have been a few sides who started well but have gone off in their last 2 or 3 games, and some vice versa.
I'm still right behind my team - take it out on Essex, lads!
Anyway, decent effort by the bowlers and by Tres. Seriously need to up our batting game tomorrow (similar to how we were for game two after a poor game one ten days ago).
I agree we still have a good chance of qualification for last eight - at which point it's anyone's competition. There do seem to have been a few sides who started well but have gone off in their last 2 or 3 games, and some vice versa.
I'm still right behind my team - take it out on Essex, lads!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 23:11
Your last line SP.
I am sure we all are.
I am sure we all are.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 23:17
Without doubt the lowest quality game of cricket from two first-class teams I have ever witnessed.
And this is meant to be the format of cricket to entice our youth??
Well, I will be taking my 3 yr old boy and 10 yr old nephew to Lords for Fathers Day this Sunday. Yes, a communal day out but one that I can at least try and explain to them why I love the game. Middlesex v Kent - 11.00am to 6.00pm.
Nothing will be decided. Thannk God for that.
Stop chasing the £££'s and live for integrity.
And this is meant to be the format of cricket to entice our youth??
Well, I will be taking my 3 yr old boy and 10 yr old nephew to Lords for Fathers Day this Sunday. Yes, a communal day out but one that I can at least try and explain to them why I love the game. Middlesex v Kent - 11.00am to 6.00pm.
Nothing will be decided. Thannk God for that.
Stop chasing the £££'s and live for integrity.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 23:18
I still love Somerset and will support from the rest of my life. My kids, born in Hampstead, will see a game at Taunton soon. But this 20/20 farce is a....farce. Never has a sporting occasion more summed up the society we live in.
Rant over!
Rant over!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 23:25
But AG - are they playing on flat tracks or not? You keep making the differentiation between different types of pitches oin the same ground?
Either the ground is causing the problem or not. Or are the bits of grass they are using for one day games FUNDAMENTALLY different to those they are using for four day games?
Your premis seemed to be that the batsmen are having problems on non Taunton pitches...well is it that or not?
Or is it only relating to some Taunton pitches that are causing the problems?
We are talking about the circle of grass in the middle of the county ground I am assuming or are we only talking about some parts of it?
Either the ground is causing the problem or not. Or are the bits of grass they are using for one day games FUNDAMENTALLY different to those they are using for four day games?
Your premis seemed to be that the batsmen are having problems on non Taunton pitches...well is it that or not?
Or is it only relating to some Taunton pitches that are causing the problems?
We are talking about the circle of grass in the middle of the county ground I am assuming or are we only talking about some parts of it?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 14/06/2011 23:34
Quote:Clarence Parker
My quotation wasn't intended to be a slight to any poster on here, Grockle, and most certainly not to Ronnie.
Well thanks for the clarification CP I'm sure Ronnie appreciates it but I didn't suggest that you had that intention
I was just thinking how to put it and there were the perfect words.
It's very true that we all at times think our opinion is the correct one - the truth. But because we believe it doesn't necessarily make it so and your quote seems to fit that situation. So thanks very much.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 01:11
Been away all day - seems I didn't miss much.
Maybe we should be re-named 'Somerset Schizophrenics' !
Surface/lack of matchplay or whatever, we really are expert this year at being absolutely brilliant, or absolutely lousy.
Wonder which we will be tomorrow ?
Grizzzly
Maybe we should be re-named 'Somerset Schizophrenics' !
Surface/lack of matchplay or whatever, we really are expert this year at being absolutely brilliant, or absolutely lousy.
Wonder which we will be tomorrow ?
Grizzzly
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 06:47
Yes, Grockle, it's the same square but the pitches, I'm sure, are prepared with different goals in mind - in one day games we prepare pitches intended to produce tons of runs - in the CC I think it an open secret that we are seeking to give the bowlers enough to work with to gain positive results.
It's not necessarily pitches away from Taunton, per se, it's sloooow pitches. I think we've been poor on slow pitches in one day cricket for many years - especially against spinners on such surfaces and especially in T20.
We might rock up at Chelmsford and encounter a flat-track belter, in which case we will probably power our way to victory. But if it's slow again then we simply HAVE to adjust our game accordingly - running the singles hard etc and looking to play with a bit more patience.
It's not necessarily pitches away from Taunton, per se, it's sloooow pitches. I think we've been poor on slow pitches in one day cricket for many years - especially against spinners on such surfaces and especially in T20.
We might rock up at Chelmsford and encounter a flat-track belter, in which case we will probably power our way to victory. But if it's slow again then we simply HAVE to adjust our game accordingly - running the singles hard etc and looking to play with a bit more patience.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 09:31
My assessment of the match.
The pitch.
All of the Taunton square had the same treatment in the winter; the preparation of one day pitches is the same with all counties they are left completely dry with no grass on it.
The difference with last night’s pitch it has been used several times before my guess more than twice by the amount of spin there was, would Max have made a difference we will never know it seems, he bowls and he can bat and the way it is going we will never know.
We have had one game of t20 at Taunton so any games coming up will be on fresh pitches so they should be still good batting tracks.
Somerset’s performance.
The batting.
I will not go into that we all know what happened.
Marcus showed his difference from the rest of the team if he had put more power into the shot he got out to ---- the game can be all ifs.
The fielding.
Our fielding was good but not as good as the opposition, two years ago we would not have seen Arul Suppiah drop that catch, Marcus and our new signing took two brilliant catches and I think I remember Jos taking one as well.
The Bowling.
I believe we bowled ok considering the low total we had to defend, should Arul have bowled it is hard to say if he would have made a difference with that low score, Hussain went for six an over but he did take two wickets.
On to the next match.
The pitch.
All of the Taunton square had the same treatment in the winter; the preparation of one day pitches is the same with all counties they are left completely dry with no grass on it.
The difference with last night’s pitch it has been used several times before my guess more than twice by the amount of spin there was, would Max have made a difference we will never know it seems, he bowls and he can bat and the way it is going we will never know.
We have had one game of t20 at Taunton so any games coming up will be on fresh pitches so they should be still good batting tracks.
Somerset’s performance.
The batting.
I will not go into that we all know what happened.
Marcus showed his difference from the rest of the team if he had put more power into the shot he got out to ---- the game can be all ifs.
The fielding.
Our fielding was good but not as good as the opposition, two years ago we would not have seen Arul Suppiah drop that catch, Marcus and our new signing took two brilliant catches and I think I remember Jos taking one as well.
The Bowling.
I believe we bowled ok considering the low total we had to defend, should Arul have bowled it is hard to say if he would have made a difference with that low score, Hussain went for six an over but he did take two wickets.
On to the next match.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 10:20
It was the third game on that pitch. Therefore, when we started batting on it, it was 80 overs old.
At that point, that should only have been the equivalent of batting at the 20 over mark, if chasing, in one of the old Gilette Cup/Nat West Trophy games.
I suspect that recent rains may have come too late to help in the preparation of that particular track... that excessive dryness meant that it played like a track that was much, much older as it was.
Who knows how Sussex would have played it, had they batted first? They might have felt pressured by our batting line-up into trying to go too big, leaving them in the same mess as us. Or they might have sized things up more quickly and batted sensibly in search of a score of 130 or so.
At that point, that should only have been the equivalent of batting at the 20 over mark, if chasing, in one of the old Gilette Cup/Nat West Trophy games.
I suspect that recent rains may have come too late to help in the preparation of that particular track... that excessive dryness meant that it played like a track that was much, much older as it was.
Who knows how Sussex would have played it, had they batted first? They might have felt pressured by our batting line-up into trying to go too big, leaving them in the same mess as us. Or they might have sized things up more quickly and batted sensibly in search of a score of 130 or so.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 10:36
AGod, all groundsmen water the square by hand anyway, after our washout on Sunday a Somerset groundsman was watering the Somerset square on the Monday when I looked in. Sussex previous match at Hove was four days earlier so there was time to prepare it.
If as you say that was the third match on that pitch they have only used one pitch.
If as you say that was the third match on that pitch they have only used one pitch.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 11:06
It matters not now. They have to look forward and learn.
That is the job of the coaches/staff and the players themselves. If they can't get it right tonight and learn from last night then we probably need to look at how we aproach this form of the game and how our form swings so much (thats not just in the t20 its the CC too).
The issue of Taunton is a good point.There has been some great cricket on it the last 2 years but you always get value for hitting shots regardless of what type of wicket it is. I think it is that which changes when we move away not the wicket particularly. I think we still play that way.
Dont know who mentioned it but someone said do we not think Hildy will play for England and Jos etc. as they play on the Taunton wicket. This season correct me if Im wrong neither have set the heather on fire (have stuggled some would say) so the answer to that question is a resounding no I dont think they will play any time soon.............unless they get the finger out.
That is the job of the coaches/staff and the players themselves. If they can't get it right tonight and learn from last night then we probably need to look at how we aproach this form of the game and how our form swings so much (thats not just in the t20 its the CC too).
The issue of Taunton is a good point.There has been some great cricket on it the last 2 years but you always get value for hitting shots regardless of what type of wicket it is. I think it is that which changes when we move away not the wicket particularly. I think we still play that way.
Dont know who mentioned it but someone said do we not think Hildy will play for England and Jos etc. as they play on the Taunton wicket. This season correct me if Im wrong neither have set the heather on fire (have stuggled some would say) so the answer to that question is a resounding no I dont think they will play any time soon.............unless they get the finger out.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 11:41
We will certainly need a greater number of CC runs from both Hildreth and Jos in the second half of the season if we are to haul Durham in - particularly so if Craig K misses games because of England ODI duty.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 12:12
we need a greater barrage of runs all round so as not to put pressure on MT. I know there have been camoes from others but if I were an opposition captain/coach at present my team talk would be along the lines of get Trescothick and we are half way there.
Its up the rest (and rememeber it is a much feared batting line up) to prove that idea as being wrong.
Its up the rest (and rememeber it is a much feared batting line up) to prove that idea as being wrong.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Blub (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 12:33
At the start of the Sky programme last night the Sky people noted something along the lines of; "can the Sussex bowlers stop the most feared batting line-up in the country" or words to that effect.
Presumably there is a good amount of trepidation when facing Somerset, so when playing Somerset at home it would make perfect sense to prepare your wickets to be a little sticky, particularly as someone else has already noted on this thread, this is not the first time that this type of wicket has undone us.
One would imagine that, playing half of the games away from Taunton, we would be better prepared to manage the batting on these variable wickets. My feeling is that the batting performance owed less to over-familiarity with Taunton, and more to do with being too slow to recognise the state of the Hove wicket.
From memory, did we not spend a lot of last season in T20 and 40 over games, choosing to chase, even on batting friendly pitches. I wondered this when Marcus said that we would have batted had he won the toss.
It is sad to report that of our 4 England hopefuls, they all got out to, what looked like, very poor shots (as opposed to being beaten by the bowler, or bad luck).
Presumably there is a good amount of trepidation when facing Somerset, so when playing Somerset at home it would make perfect sense to prepare your wickets to be a little sticky, particularly as someone else has already noted on this thread, this is not the first time that this type of wicket has undone us.
One would imagine that, playing half of the games away from Taunton, we would be better prepared to manage the batting on these variable wickets. My feeling is that the batting performance owed less to over-familiarity with Taunton, and more to do with being too slow to recognise the state of the Hove wicket.
From memory, did we not spend a lot of last season in T20 and 40 over games, choosing to chase, even on batting friendly pitches. I wondered this when Marcus said that we would have batted had he won the toss.
It is sad to report that of our 4 England hopefuls, they all got out to, what looked like, very poor shots (as opposed to being beaten by the bowler, or bad luck).
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 12:37
To be honest, I didn't think there was very much of the bowlers getting the better of the batsman on either side.... it was mainly the batsmen of both sides giving it away with witless play.
I thought Kartik bowled beautifully .. far better than anyone else on either side. That, at least, is hopefully a good sign provided that whatever he went off for at the end was something trivial and he can still play on Monday.
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I thought Kartik bowled beautifully .. far better than anyone else on either side. That, at least, is hopefully a good sign provided that whatever he went off for at the end was something trivial and he can still play on Monday.
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 16:10
Looking athe weather I would say tonight at Chlemsford could be washed out and certainly Friday's game v Surrey at Taunton looks unlikely to happen.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 16:10
Thanks for all the blurb AG. Just wanted to clarify the situation regarding the Taunton as a factor. That now done.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 18:28
I hope that f we ever get in last night's situation again, when Kartik's bowling, we put more men in the circle, making it more difficult for the batters to build a partnership by picking off easy singles. We have to be pro-active, play an extra batsmen / fielder for Kirby and bowl Arul instead.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 18:28
Friend at the ground has said no rain in Chelmsford all day and the expected rain band has broken up over London area.
Play will start on time and should continue throughout.
Play will start on time and should continue throughout.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 18:55
Essex win the toss and we will bat - we are unchanged.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 19:09
Second time of asking for this XI - I suggest that they are playing for their places in next match when a fresh format should tried if they don't succeed this time. Here's hopig they do!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 19:46
Has anyone found any commentary on tonights match?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 19:49
Sorry blonde moment found it hiding on the BBC cricket site
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:05
Team batting second won most T20 games at Chelmsford last season. Based on last season's scores, I'd say we might well need 180 or so to be considered favourite.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:13
Much better performance. Fair play to all concerned.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:15
They just said that it wasn’t a bad wicket at Hove.
On the Somerset web site Marcus described the pitch as “Rubbish pitch for a t20 game”
On the Somerset web site Marcus described the pitch as “Rubbish pitch for a t20 game”
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:22
Does anyone have that rain feeling!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:23
Tremendous acceleration from Hildreth.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:24
Well, that proves we can bat away from Taunton !
Must be tremendous batting by James & Marcus.
Grizzzly
Must be tremendous batting by James & Marcus.
Grizzzly
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:27
Another ton for the boss - amazing !
Grizzzly
Grizzzly
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:29
Over 60 in 3 overs!!? well done Tres and Hilda.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:31
Dot ball in the final over! Scandalous - sack them all!
PS Carnage
PS Carnage
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:31
PLEEEEEEEEASE dont rain!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:34
What a breathless battering. Is rain threatening, though?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:35
Cricinfo said we were 228 with a ball to go - we end up with 225?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:36
Must not be a slow wicket :-)
127 off 9.4 overs from the two and a tremendous performance from James Hildreth as well - good to see.
127 off 9.4 overs from the two and a tremendous performance from James Hildreth as well - good to see.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:39
I wonder if they sent Hildreth in partly with an eye to the CC resumption? No real point having RvDM in prime form ahead of the Warks game, but every point in getting James a chance to find top gear.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:40
Cricinfo did correct itself a few times towards the end - maybe hard to keep up!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:42
Maybe just providing a bit of stability, normal batting,so we didn't end up in the same mess as last night.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:44
I was thinking the same thing, AG
A pity for Hildreth (and, selfishly, good for Somerset) this innnings came 24hrs after he was on Sky in full view of the England selectors.
A pity for Hildreth (and, selfishly, good for Somerset) this innnings came 24hrs after he was on Sky in full view of the England selectors.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:44
just in from work.......wow!! That must have been as good as last night was bad.
Bowlers need to be as disciplined as last night to see this through now.
Bowlers need to be as disciplined as last night to see this through now.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:48
True.
We don't want them to go off like a bull at a gate in the one hope of hitting big in the first 5 or 6 and then the rain ending the game!!
What a travesty that would be.
So in a different scenario to last night let's have a good performance by both parts of the side.
We don't want them to go off like a bull at a gate in the one hope of hitting big in the first 5 or 6 and then the rain ending the game!!
What a travesty that would be.
So in a different scenario to last night let's have a good performance by both parts of the side.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:54
And here we go! Bopara and Shah go to town in wet conditions as the Essex boys take 20 odd off the first two. Better third over from Hussain in real problem conditions.
36 off the first 3 does not look good - that's the rate they need and the D/L looking dodgy.
36 off the first 3 does not look good - that's the rate they need and the D/L looking dodgy.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:56
I need to confess.
Transferred Bopara out of my T20 squad this morning. So if he gets a big score, its all my fault!
Sorry
Transferred Bopara out of my T20 squad this morning. So if he gets a big score, its all my fault!
Sorry
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:57
Buttler the wicketkeeper?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:57
Don't tell me it's going to be another chance for me to moan about Duckworth Lewis!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 20:58
Arrrrrrruuuuullll!!! Makes up for Naved last night!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:04
Meschedeeeeee!! Ravi isn't happy it seems but I bet CM is. Not a bad first wicket for your career.
And now Stevie boy has a catch off Pete just past 50 up
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:06:15:21:09:41 by Grockle.
And now Stevie boy has a catch off Pete just past 50 up
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:06:15:21:09:41 by Grockle.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:06
Another Essex player going to be reported!
Foster must have been reported the other night.
Foster must have been reported the other night.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:07
You okay Grockle? You are very animated tonight.
Keep going though!!!
Keep going though!!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:08
Game over... But keep the foot on the throat for NRR purposes.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:10
Yes the NRR dropped 0.5 at Hove.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:12
Interesting. Commentators wondering how Marcus will manage his 'considerable array' of spinners.
Not a mystery. Kartik will bowl overs 7,9,11,and 13.
er, perhaps not!
The moer I think I know this game, the more it proves me wrong!
Not a mystery. Kartik will bowl overs 7,9,11,and 13.
er, perhaps not!
The moer I think I know this game, the more it proves me wrong!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:15
They must be including Arul in that.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:18
BTW Kieswetter keeping Buttler took his catch on long on boundary
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:20
Just looking at the nationwide love for Trescothick on twitter, warms my heart it does.
Essex all over the place, 6 down now.
I hope for Sunny weather on Friday, it seems an age since I saw any live cricket!
Essex all over the place, 6 down now.
I hope for Sunny weather on Friday, it seems an age since I saw any live cricket!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:20
What's the biggest T20 wInning margin in terms of runs?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:26
This year 122 by Essex [stats.espncricinfo.com]
Overall Sri Lanka 172 runs [stats.espncricinfo.com]
Third highest overall
The highest by a county 143.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011:06:15:21:33:06 by Mike BOS.
Overall Sri Lanka 172 runs [stats.espncricinfo.com]
Third highest overall
The highest by a county 143.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011:06:15:21:33:06 by Mike BOS.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:32
Now 143 runs - although Essex only 9 wickets down but Styris unlikely to bat.
Essex scored less than Marcus managed single-handedly!
Essex scored less than Marcus managed single-handedly!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:34
Well, pretty happy bowling debut for Craig M!!
Stunning result - 143 runs. Wow!
Stunning result - 143 runs. Wow!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:34
A slightly better night at the office ... well played one and all.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:34
He's just a big bully, that Trescothick, but he's our bully and we love him.
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:37
Well theorists...let's have a few two page posts on why that happened then!
Must be something to do with playing on those 'other' strips at Taunton AG :-)
I'll sum it up for you - bloody marvellous (think that will do)
Well done Craig Meschede less than 2 overs 3 for 9...not too shabby for your second domestic game.
Must be something to do with playing on those 'other' strips at Taunton AG :-)
I'll sum it up for you - bloody marvellous (think that will do)
Well done Craig Meschede less than 2 overs 3 for 9...not too shabby for your second domestic game.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:39
Net R/R +1.824
Not too shabby.
Not too shabby.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:40
At 1.824 we now have the highest net run rate in the group, more than twice as high as any of our competitors.
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:40
Maybe the tactic here is to not be on SkyTV
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:43
thay must have been reading this side and said "we'll show those b&ggers"
Great night. One point or two on Friday now!!
Great to see young Mesch in the wickets.....confidence high!!!
Great night. One point or two on Friday now!!
Great to see young Mesch in the wickets.....confidence high!!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:47
Dine on this feast - one never knows when the famine is coming again. A great night by the skipper and I understand the fielders particularly.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:50
3 wickets in 9 balls for young Meschede; he should retire now!
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:51
Brilliant performance, but now let's take it forward and be consistent. What a shame we can't perform like this on TV, so all our fans and the Nation can see such brilliance.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: doc h (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:51
We are the best in the world! We are the best in the world! We have beaten Essex, Essex, birthplace of giants, by 144 runs. Wat Tyler,Dick Turpin, Sally Gunnell, Alf Ramsay,Dudley Moore, Graham Gooch, Essex Girl, we have beaten them all! Graham Gooch can you hear me? Your boys took one hell of a beating!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: ronnies (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:53
brilliant doc............brilliant!!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:55
Best post of the day Doc well done my son (or daughter even)
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:55
Tonight we have set an English 20/20 record.
It's the largest victory in the history of the competition.
Well done lads!
PS : Still doesn't get past the fact, for me, that 20/20 is a total lottery though....
It's the largest victory in the history of the competition.
Well done lads!
PS : Still doesn't get past the fact, for me, that 20/20 is a total lottery though....
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:56
and Norman Tebbitt?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 21:57
It was last night that I said I thought we'd win the t20.
Awesome batting today and everytime Tres changed the bowling there was a wicket in the first 2 balls.
Awesome batting today and everytime Tres changed the bowling there was a wicket in the first 2 balls.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 22:02
When does the County Championship start again?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 22:06
What a difference a day makes - simply magnificent from all concerns.
What was Bopara's problem when he was out?
What was Bopara's problem when he was out?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: N Hughes (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 22:08
When we are good we are very, very good.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 22:14
Quote:Norwich SCCC
What a difference a day makes - simply magnificent from all concerns.
What was Bopara's problem when he was out?
He thought the catch wasn't taken cleanly.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 22:25
Well he picked the wwrong man if he wanted to debate it with Steve Kirby
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 22:35
It was Van Der Merwe Grockle who caught Bopara, I wouldn’t like to argue with him either.
What made it sound bad the commentators said he tried to have words with the fielder the umpire block his way and pointed to the pavilion?
What made it sound bad the commentators said he tried to have words with the fielder the umpire block his way and pointed to the pavilion?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 22:44
Hey that's my phrase NH !
Maybe we have a set of inverted player clones that we send out occasionally, just to baffle the opposition (not to mention the fans) !
If we play like this we can beat anyone, anywhere, anytime.
As long as we don't send out the clones again !!!
Grizzzly
Maybe we have a set of inverted player clones that we send out occasionally, just to baffle the opposition (not to mention the fans) !
If we play like this we can beat anyone, anywhere, anytime.
As long as we don't send out the clones again !!!
Grizzzly
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 22:55
Wasn't that Judy Collins?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: N Hughes (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 22:59
Sorry Grizz........
Is Pollard due in for the next game?
Is Pollard due in for the next game?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 23:03
Yep I know NH but the altercation before the ump got involved was with Steve K
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 23:03
No worries NH.
If we play like that KP won't be needed !
Grizzzly
If we play like that KP won't be needed !
Grizzzly
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 23:23
8 each i believe for RVDM and KP.
Hence RVDM last game will be this Friday (17) v Surrey, home
KP first game will be next Friday (24) v Sussex, home
Hence RVDM last game will be this Friday (17) v Surrey, home
KP first game will be next Friday (24) v Sussex, home
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/06/2011 23:54
And the show rolls on! Will we have a space for Keiron do you think? What if Alf is fit as well? Where does Lewis go?
in Twitter speak - @SomersetGrockle presently loving this!
in Twitter speak - @SomersetGrockle presently loving this!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: N Hughes (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 09:35
If Suppiah is not picked to bowl then he could take his place? Although I like Suppiah's fielding so would keep him in. Pollard's bowling was also very good for us last year, I knew he could bat but his bowling was 2nd best to Alf I think in the averages.
I would go, on a going day something like.
Trescothick
Kieswetter
Trego
Hildreth
Buttler
Pollard
Suppiah
Gregory
Thomas
Kartik
Kirby
Looks good to me.
I would go, on a going day something like.
Trescothick
Kieswetter
Trego
Hildreth
Buttler
Pollard
Suppiah
Gregory
Thomas
Kartik
Kirby
Looks good to me.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 10:04
Wow! What a bounce back!
Was out all evening so missed the unfolding drama.
The guys will have sore heads this morning. Not from the drink but from hitting their heads on the ceiling resulting from such a huge bounce back!!
That was an important match for us. If we had lost to Essex after losing to Sussex, and then rain robs us of a win on Friday evening, we would be pressured to pick up the momentum again to ensure we qualify.
Now even that arch-pessimist BJ muts believe we can do it ;-)
Was out all evening so missed the unfolding drama.
The guys will have sore heads this morning. Not from the drink but from hitting their heads on the ceiling resulting from such a huge bounce back!!
That was an important match for us. If we had lost to Essex after losing to Sussex, and then rain robs us of a win on Friday evening, we would be pressured to pick up the momentum again to ensure we qualify.
Now even that arch-pessimist BJ muts believe we can do it ;-)
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 10:20
Quote:Big Jim
When does the County Championship start again?
Monday, thank God. It's important to notify you of that Jim as I think some are still under the impression that it's one massive block of T20 before the real stuff returns.
Weather permitting, I think I may head up the West Coast mainline for a couple of days of that one, although probably cannot do Monday.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 10:21
dont think he's interested in the t20 stuff.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 10:24
BJ: I thought you might like to know we won a T20 match yesterday evening. It's not important in any way, of course, except that it gave our men a bit of exercise.
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 10:53
Probably a safer way to do it than pre-match rugby/football!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: N Hughes (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 10:53
If T20 is your thing or not, it is still important to the clubs success in that the extra revenue helps strengthening the team to compete in the championship. This is the 1st season I've had a membership(Championship) in 5 years due to family commitments and the attendance at Taunton seems alot bigger than what it was back in those years ago. Maybe it's because the team is a genuine title contenders but how many might be those who 1st got into Somerset via 20/20 and are now supporting the clubs other forms of the game?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 11:11
As I've said a hundred times before ("so why are you saying it yet again? Ed), I've got no intrinsic objection to T20 per se, providing there is not so much of it that players' technique suffers. My only objection is to the loud music associated with it that in my view is utterly irrelevant and adds nothing to the spectacle of any value whatsoever.
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 11:13
I think it's time I visited my daughter in Birmingham next week.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 11:31
Quote:N Hughes
how many might be those who 1st got into Somerset via 20/20 and are now supporting the clubs other forms of the game?
There must be a few, I couldn't get my partner to even watch cricket on Sky until I dragged her to Glos v Somerset 3 years ago and now she literally watches every scrap of Cricket on TV and wants to go to Taunton on a daily basis it seems. No doubt that we will be shelling out for a Platinum joint membership next season. So you can attribute that to the rise of T20 - even though she doesn't like it as much !(much prefers P40/LVCC stuff)
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 11:46
"I couldn't get my partner to even watch cricket on Sky until I dragged her to Glos v Somerset 3 years ago and now she literally watches every scrap of Cricket on TV and wants to go to Taunton on a daily basis it seems."
What a very considerable hardship for you, Tumbles!!!!!
What a very considerable hardship for you, Tumbles!!!!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 11:47
To be honest, the best thing about the bits of T20 I've seen so far is, simply, that Mr Kartik looks like he is in rather fine fettle... that's very encouraging for the CC resumption!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 11:48
You'd better marry that partner of yours as soon as possible, Tumbles, if you haven't done so already, for she sounds to me like the most eligible woman in England.
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 11:54
We could have the first marriage on Gimblett's Hill.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 12:20
On a non marital basis one of my mates started coming to T20 games to do the "drink till you stink" routine, bought a full tournament ticket last season, is now bored with it and wants to see CB40.
I'm not sure he'll ever progress to CC1 but he is following the game now from a seat nowhere near the bar - though he can still drink most people I know under many a table.
I wasn't convinced when it started but I've come around to it's role. One thing it does do very nicely, it tunes up your fielding unit in mid season and that can't be a bad thing.
As some have said, if nothing else it can be a "blooding arena" for younger prospects even if you aren't fighting for silverware.
I'm not sure he'll ever progress to CC1 but he is following the game now from a seat nowhere near the bar - though he can still drink most people I know under many a table.
I wasn't convinced when it started but I've come around to it's role. One thing it does do very nicely, it tunes up your fielding unit in mid season and that can't be a bad thing.
As some have said, if nothing else it can be a "blooding arena" for younger prospects even if you aren't fighting for silverware.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 12:28
Speaking of young ones, after his 3 wickets in 9 balls start, I wonder if there's a prospect of Craig M holding onto his place for the remaining games, even if Alf and Lewis are fit?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 12:34
Poor old Charl is being sent out with the second XI for a T20 double-header! I suppose it gives him eight possible overs ahead of Monday.. cannot think of any other conceivable reason for making him do that. Nick Compton is also in the set-up.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 12:59
No play Friday, no chance whatsoever.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 13:06
Met Office forecast is not THAT bad.. or do you mean that it's raining so heavily right now that everything will already be water-logged?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 13:06
Quote:AGod
To be honest, the best thing about the bits of T20 I've seen so far is, simply, that Mr Kartik looks like he is in rather fine fettle... that's very encouraging for the CC resumption!
She also has a season ticket at Ashton Gate too. This probably marks her down in the eyes of others
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 13:15
I reckon its for the practice AG.............he cant have played in ernest since the Yorks championship game so the bowling time cant do him any harm I wouldn't have thought.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 13:22
fRed....what do you want us to vote for in relation to Anjantha? Just asking out of curiosity..:-)
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 13:36
Why have Kirby in the T20 team? Give the lad a rest and bring in a more agile fielder / batsmen and get Arul to do some bowling, or even Hildreth.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 13:39
If I were Willoughby, I would have relished the chance to do a bit of competitive bowling during a long lay off from serious cricket.
In answer to Grockle's reasonable enquiry, may I suggest that Mendis may be planning to follow Ranatunga and Jayasuriya into politics.
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In answer to Grockle's reasonable enquiry, may I suggest that Mendis may be planning to follow Ranatunga and Jayasuriya into politics.
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Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 13:43
Tumbles, with those qualifications can I adopt her as a daughter?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 14:06
Don't introduce her to Tractor, Tumbles - she sounds like his ideal woman!!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 14:11
Quote:Botham
Why have Kirby in the T20 team? Give the lad a rest and bring in a more agile fielder / batsmen and get Arul to do some bowling, or even Hildreth.
I assume you are serious so here ya go.
Steve is one of the top three wicket takers (6?) in our T20 side with Kartik and Lewis I believe. His average is high (21) but he bowls during the front 6 and the bottom 4 of the innings. He takes wickets.
He's also an active fielder with a big heart - can't think of a lot he's got wrong in the field - better fielders have made as many errors. I don't think we hide him but I agree we need to 'locate' him effectively.
He has experience and he gets up the batsman's nose in the front half (that second maiden against Sussex was inspired).
Arul - they won't bowl him (either it's his confidence or they think they've got enough slow men)
James? Taking pace off the ball is not the only objective. It still needs the bowler to put the ball in the right place - you can't seriously be suggesting we bowl a guy with NO first team overs to his name this year just because he is of a pace batsmen SOMETIMES find difficult to hit in T20?
I was of the opinion that we should not bowl him in all the T20's but until we produce a side with more consistency than this we need his heart in the middle of that bowling unit - nobody will give less than 100% when he is there AND HE TAKES front end wickets. He's this year's Mark Turner - but he is far more effective because he does the job Marcus wanted MT to do last year. AND he does it nearly every match.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 14:14
Should the players ever get on the park tomorrow, Surrey have added spinners Chris Scofield and Gareth Batty, and paceman Tim Linley to the team that comfortably beat Essex under The Oval floodlights on Monday.
Interestingly, no Ramprakash in the squad of 14:
Hamilton-Brown, Davies, Roy, De Bruyn, Maynard, Spriegel, Wilson, Schofield, Batty, Ansari, Linley, Dernbach, Nannes, Arafat.
Interestingly, no Ramprakash in the squad of 14:
Hamilton-Brown, Davies, Roy, De Bruyn, Maynard, Spriegel, Wilson, Schofield, Batty, Ansari, Linley, Dernbach, Nannes, Arafat.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 14:27
Thank you for the information regarding the CC, have they had the finals day for this garbage yet?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 14:34
Yes, BJ: we played the final last night and beat Essex into the ground (and out of it as well).
CC resumes on Monday.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
CC resumes on Monday.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 15:57
Excellent, does this mean those chaps who come in and play for just a few games can go back to where they belong?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 16:01
I believe so Jim, Simon Jones seems to have that idea.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 16:11
Good to know that knackers Yard CCC is still going strong, Michael.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 16:42
Then there are those spectators who pop across from Wales and London and think they have a right to be at Taunton...
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Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 18:00
Grockle, thanks for the full appraisal of my 'mate'. I can't argue against it, but would still rest him. However, as no-one has tried ftm yet, to the best of my knowledge, I guess he's here to stay at least until KP plays.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 18:24
Re: Botham's point about Hildreth; He just seemed to suddenly stop bowling about 3 or so years ago, having previously been effective in T20. Perhaps there's some sort of permanent bowling injury there?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 19:13
Aye, these spectators that go and watch one county for a month, fill their pockets full of cash from the tuck shop and then dash off to another county and do exactly the same....it should be stopped, those spectators will ruin the game.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/06/2011 20:10
I would see Hilda as a real option IF he'd kept his bowling up but as you say he stopped a while ago for some reason and therefore would be in no fit state to suddenly take it up again.
You may be right Mr B. Once Pollard is here AND bowling well (we hope) and IF Alf is fit again then there's every reason to rest the mad red head. But presently he's one of those ingredients that keeps this lot together when they start to mess it up.
You may be right Mr B. Once Pollard is here AND bowling well (we hope) and IF Alf is fit again then there's every reason to rest the mad red head. But presently he's one of those ingredients that keeps this lot together when they start to mess it up.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 00:38
Quote:OK, bring your shorts and sun-factor 30AGod
Met Office forecast is not THAT bad.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 09:28
Fully agree with N Hughes about T20. There are several points in its favour:
1) It brings in much-needed revenue.
2) It increases the supporter base, encouraging people to watch cricket who otherwise wouldn't.
3) It IS exciting (despite the indifference some on this site profess, which seems to disappear once Somerset reach the knockout stages
).
4) It demands a high degree of skill (inventive shots, bowling accurate yorkers, etc.), even if the skills required are different from other forms of cricket.
5) Since Jacques Rogge, the head of the International Olympic Committee is apparently a fan (see The Guardian, June 7th), it may one day even become an Olympic sport and permit cricket to one day rule the world.
1) It brings in much-needed revenue.
2) It increases the supporter base, encouraging people to watch cricket who otherwise wouldn't.
3) It IS exciting (despite the indifference some on this site profess, which seems to disappear once Somerset reach the knockout stages
).
4) It demands a high degree of skill (inventive shots, bowling accurate yorkers, etc.), even if the skills required are different from other forms of cricket.
5) Since Jacques Rogge, the head of the International Olympic Committee is apparently a fan (see The Guardian, June 7th), it may one day even become an Olympic sport and permit cricket to one day rule the world.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 09:49
6) it gives some of the fringe players in the squad a chance too. For me one of the most pleasing aspects is seeing the young uns get a run out from time to time. Also I've really enjoyed seeing VDM playing - I hope we get him back next year.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 10:30
Re Point 3;
"Excitement."
In my view it is exciting only if the game is close. None of the clap-trap marketing hype surrounding it excites me in the least. If it's a close game it's exciting for the same reasons that any other game of cricket is exciting.
Although Marcus has expressed considerable disdain for the Hove surface on which we played that game, that's been the only T20 game that we have played so far that involved any tension whatsoever. All of the other games have been walkovers.
There have also been a very high amount of games in the competition, overall - it seems to me - for which the description "walkover," would be apt*
Now Finals Day last year WAS very exciting, because the two SCCC matches were both superb contests.
* Is it my imagination or do there seem to be a greater number of walkovers this year than ever before?
"Excitement."
In my view it is exciting only if the game is close. None of the clap-trap marketing hype surrounding it excites me in the least. If it's a close game it's exciting for the same reasons that any other game of cricket is exciting.
Although Marcus has expressed considerable disdain for the Hove surface on which we played that game, that's been the only T20 game that we have played so far that involved any tension whatsoever. All of the other games have been walkovers.
There have also been a very high amount of games in the competition, overall - it seems to me - for which the description "walkover," would be apt*
Now Finals Day last year WAS very exciting, because the two SCCC matches were both superb contests.
* Is it my imagination or do there seem to be a greater number of walkovers this year than ever before?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 10:32
I don't know if it will continue for very long it has stopped raining and it is a little lighter.
Our problem will be the outfield again we have had another 4mm of rain this morning.
Our problem will be the outfield again we have had another 4mm of rain this morning.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 11:46
7) It gives the team the opportunity to play in front of a big, noisy, animated crowd - a buzz for the established players and experience for the new recruits to the first team. After all, they are all performers and in the vast amjority of cases they want people to be watching what they are doing!
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 12:57
Analyse, Analyse, Analyse - It's just a game of cricket.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 14:00
It seems...not to some Nailsea.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 14:28
I have just seen Mr Gould down the road closely followed by Mr Rose.
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 14:30
Was one in pursuit of the other?
Re: Sussing Sussex T20
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 17/06/2011 14:37
I think they have just come from the £1 shop. 
and there is nothing wrong with that, you ask BR.
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