Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
First 4 dayer since 09
By Grockle et al
July 18 2012
A late start this morning after some heavy rain during the night but the game is off and running with an unusual bowling attack from us. Max Waller startsa four day game for the first time since 2009. Gemaal Hussain is back for a very important match for his career. We have won the toss and shown faith in the attack by putting them in.
v WARWICKSHIRE CC1 @ Taunton Wednesday 18 July 2012
Alfonso has a limited choice of bowlers for this game with 4 of our probable considerations unavailable - three at the U19 World Cup and Steve Kirby still on the injury roster. The side is;
Barrow, Suppiah, Compton, Hildreth, Keiswetter(w), Buttler, Trego, Meschede, Thomas(c), Waller and Hussain
Max gets his first home run out in a long game for 3 years and Gemaal plays only his second game of the CC campaign. For both of these players this could be a career changing game. Other than that it is a strong batting line-up (Marcus is testing himself in the seconds match) but an uncertain bowling one with Craig Meschede (it would be nice if his own county could spell his name right on their own scorecards) and Arul making up the fifth bowler spot.
We win the toss and decide, based on the green pitch and the conditions, to give ourselves a go with the ball. That one isn't really a surprise but the unusual opening pair of Gemaal and Pete is a little more of an eye opener. Chopra and Westwood open for the visitors and although GH's second ball is dismissed by Westwood to the Caddyshack boundary the first 9 overs only result in 24 runs being scored and the attacking field of 3 slips and a gully are kept busy by the bowlers questioning the batsmen.
Unfortunately the weather intervenes early and we will be looking for another good start after the spell that took the players off at 12:20 with 9.5 overs completed and 25 for no wicket to Warwickshire.
Back on at 12:45 and in the 5 balls possible before the big rain arrives, Pete Trego got one to move away and spit at Westwood who is caught behind by Jos for 10. 27 for 1 as an early lunch is called.
Tea will be taken at 3:10 as the rain is still belting down and the umpires will inspect again at 3:30.... gonna be one of those games.
If cricket does take place I'm afraid you'll have to ask the commentators about it because I'll be there doing that after 3:30.
The umpires decided at 3:30 to have another look at 4:15 and although the sun is out the groundsmen are preparing more covers for expected rain before then. I'll be very surprised if they have any more play today given the weather coming in behind the Botham Stand
Just like magic, a smigen before 4:15 the rain starts again and the inspection is put off until 'it stops raining'. 10 minutes later it REALLY starts precipitating and the game is off for the day I am afraid.
10.4 overs, 27 runs and 1 wicket is the grand result for today. The information from the Bears dressing room is that they are upset because this stuff today was not predicted and they think they have a good chance of rolling us over in this game.
I'd therefore like to see dry conditions for the next three days so we can prove them wrong!! Let's hope for better tomorrow. I won't be at the game I am afraid because my daughter is becoming Ms Grockle (BA Hons) tomorrow. Back on Friday with more to talk about "Insh' Allah"
Day 2
Most of the people reading this will have analysed Thursday's play and in some cases seen more than me. The general perception is that Warwickshire got too many because of an indifferent bowling performance, Chopra did well against us once more and Troughton did well after being dropped on 13. "Must do better" was the analysis of most posters and the captain himself. So on to....
Day 3
Starting at 387 for 7 off 107 overs, the opposition's first objective was to deny us the full bowling points in the first 3.1 overs, but second ball 'Dr Who' puts one in the keeper's hands off Alf and as I settle into my place Patel pushes the Bears to 400 before providing a big edged upper cut to Compton at fine leg going for 6 4 balls into the 109th and we get the points!! Alfonso has a five-fer and has got us there with 2 balls to spare before putting the icing on the cake by sending Wright back to the pavilion first ball courtesy of a demolished leg stump. All out for 400 with 1 ball of the 110th to spare. Well played captain, maybe some of the comments overnight spurred the man on but equalling his career best for the club with 6 for 60 off 19.5 is all the man can do really.
The other figures are not wonderful. They go from Arul (12/3/33/1) Pete (25/5/84/1) and Craig M (16/3/64/1) to the two men needing good performances; Max (17/2/72/1) and Gemaal (20/3/70/0)
Now it is down to the batsmen - opinion is that we need a big innings from Compo probably and that if one goes they may all follow. Predicted reply? 231 and a follow on from the great and the good .
Arul and Alex come out with a job to do and reputations to improve. Woakes opens from the River and the first over passes without incident providing 2 runs. Barker takes the first from the OP and has Arul in trouble almost immediately, dropped off a big inside edge with ball 1. A big LBW shout comes with the third and the Somerset man is lucky to survive.
However, he does and pushes the score on to 19 with a couple of beautiful boundaries in there by the end of the 7th. These kinds of starts sometimes mean you either aren't there for long or a three figure score is on the cards. Hope it's the second because he needs it.
Unfortunately, he then pushes one past the bowler and takes a quick single, he gets in but Alex, who had to stay in his crease because it hadn't passed the bowler doesn't make his ground at the other end as Wright throws the stumps down. 19 for 1 at the start of the 8th and very unfortunate for Barrow.
Lunch to Tea
Arul worked to make up for the instinctive but unfortunate run out of his opening partner by playing some absolutely sublime shots before the lunch interval - mostly off Chris Wright and went to an excellent 50 from 52 balls with 8 boundaries. Nick Compton came in to do the job he has done so well of solidly anchoring one end of the Somerset innings, he plays no chance forward defensive shots, he gives the bowlers nothing on 'uncertain' balls and he puts away the loose stuff. Importantly though he is unhurried and unflappable in his present form.
Unfortunately at the other end the batsmen partnering him are not as solid. Arul once more gets a start but then finds himself in the doldrums for a couple of overs and seems to lose his momentum, when he gets a ball to hit then the authority has gone and the edge is taken by Ambrose and we go into lunch at 102 for 2.
After the break, James Hildreth doesn't stick around for long as he finds a top edge and is caught by Chopra in the slips for 7 off Riki Clarke. Meanwhile Patel is gradually getting 'stuff' at the River end but only to the new boys - Nick seems to have no prblem, getting well forward and being non plussed by the 4 fielders crowding the bat either side of the keeper.
Craig Kieswetter arrives at the crease and announces himself by clipping everything that strays legside into the outfield. He is moving at pace and seems to be the perfect foil for his partner at this point especially against Barker and Wright from the OP end. He works with Compton to move the score along and passes his partner in the 30's (NC had 25 when the keeper came in). The 50 partnership arrives but that is about it for the England man as Patel tempts him and he finds the hands of Evans with 44 to his name - another player with a start but nothing more. 155 for 4 and the follow on total of 251 becomes a focus of the home side as Buttler replaces his fellow gloveman. Jos is missed by Ambrose off only the second ball he faces and Somerset fans have to worry against a spinner who is starting to find bounce and movement on the pitch as it sits in the sunshine for almost the first time in this summer. Unfortunately it isn't the whiles of Patel that does for the young Somerset batsman, it is his own poor shgot selection as he tries to murder the wrong ball and we have to wait for an age for Woakes to catch him in the deep for 20 - wrong shot, poor decision, wasted wicket!
195 for 5 leaves us woefully short with the batting resources running out. Pete Trego is next in but Patel is starting to run smoothly and he gets the allrounder with his best ball that goes away from Trigger and pops into the hands of the slips. PT can't buy a run at the moment and we have to look to his possible allround replacement somewhere down the line Craig Meschede for a way out of this present crisis. 206 for 6 - 45 needed.
Craig is no luckier though. While looking to help Compo, he also gets a beaut from Patel (almost the same ball as for Trego except this one has a little extra in the bounce department and takes the shoulder of Meschede's bat) and the slips pouch another at 226. This brings up Tea a little early
Post Tea
Alf comes out at the start of the third session needing to provide a captain's contribution while we get another 25. He doesn't however as Clarke gets one past him into the hands of Chopra with only another run on the total.
The press box prediction of not making the follow on total seems to be really on as Max Waller strides out to face a slow bowler on his game and his side needing another 24 to stay competitive in this one. Based on Max's batting performance against Scotland on the weekend we aren't that optimistic and the man decides to show us all by stroking the first ball to the boundary with no problem whatsoever. What is more he continues to do that until we pass the necessary 251 courtesy of a drive to the boundary from his partner and a cheeky 2 from himself past the legside field. Well done Mr Waller.
It can't last though and doesn't. Patel gets Max to pop one up to Troughton quite soon afterwards and then is not particularly charitable to the young man as he leaves. Game to Max though because he stopped him getting us in again and won the psychological game because the older man lost it a little. Hussain is the last man in and is there for just one ball before Patel gets his best career figures of 7 for 75 and has the press boys scrabbling about for his details because he's not the best known spinner in the world it seems.
254 all out, 146 behind with 5 sessions left. It isn't wonderful but it probably is a little more desirable than being asked to follow on. Not a great btting performance though except for the entirely dependable Nick Compton who is presently averaging over just over 93 in the CC and is well ahead of his next rival (Ashwell Prince some 300 behind him) in the first class batting averages. They don't come fast but they keep on coming - and we are very grateful for that this season.
Alf takes over new ball duties from Gemaal, partnering Pete for the start of Warwickshire's second. One person suggests that the best thing that the Bears could hope for is to be bowled out cheaply because they aren't the best side at setting the fourth innings run target for their opposition. Westwood and Chopra are in so we shall have to see how the end of this one pans out.
The skipper gives way to Arul 5 overs in and Pete hands the ball to Gemaal from the River. He is the man who gets the first breakthrough when he catches Westwood in front and takes his first CC wicket of the season. 32 for 1 sees Evans comeout to partner Chopra and the two men take the score to 50 with the first ball of the 14th.
The next victim however does not come to pace but to the spin of Arul Suppiah who fools Evans, he doesn't get to the pitch of the ball and pops the last ball of the 15th to Buttler and it is 55 for 2. What is more, Buttler isn't finished and proceeds to run out Troughton at the start of the 17th. 60 for 3 makes it interesting wth 6 overs to go.
Max is introduced for the 19th at 61 for 3 and goes for 3 with Arul continuing from the OP. He then takes the last of the day with the Bears 211 ahead. It's 212 ahead at the end with 3 down (66 for 3).
Day 4 will be one to watch at least.
Possibly the most important day of Somerset's 2012 Championship starts in sunshine with Warwickshire looking ready to play and Somerset a little hesitant in their progress to the wicket. The recently talked about 'body language' is not impressive and is picked up by the early press men almost immediately. Does this side look like they are realistic contenders in this game and/or in the Championship as a whole? Is there a level of belief in their mission? Not convinced myself I have to admit.
Alf starts at both batsmen without slips - bit surprising after last night but one of the guys tells me he did this last night as well. Are they pressing for the win? Do they believe that they could get them out twice with a total they could chase or are they already prepping for the draw? Dangerous plan if they are but it could be that they believe the seamers have more chance of getting the poorly performad shot catch than the edge. We shall have to see.
Gemaal seems to be the man as far as his captain is concerned as with the first ball of his second over he has Chopra LBW at 74 for 4 - length ball tot he leg side, missed it and one big scorer is gone. Give us a day GH. Restore the faith of the faithful.
This spurs on his skipper who gives Amrose something to hit and he hits it to one of our best fielders at midwicket - Max Waller who plucks an Exocet out of the air as if it is fielding practice and it's 75 for 5.... a different feel and set of motions in the middle now. The Warwickshire men are figgiting and scratching about and now the fielding team look like a group with a sense of purpose - how this game changes.
It's Gemaal Day!! In the 28th he takes out Rikki Clarke courtesy of another good catch from Alex in the Somerset infield (four ball hammered to wide mid wicket) and then in the 30th dismisses his fourth man, Woakes LBW and it is suddenly 82 for 7 and we're into the bowlers!!
Now there is nothing better on a morning than watching Thommo bowling with blood in the water. Barker gets an evil bouncer which he fends off with everything but the bat, the ball rises and falls into Craig Kieswetter's hands and another one bites the proverbial.
We already know however how difficult the Warwickshire tail can be and Patel did for us in the Edgbaston fixture. He is as dangerous here, especially partnered with Darren Maddy. These two look to settle and get the 300 the Bears would like. Gemaal is starting to look like he needs to have a breather and we are all waiting for the shift as the two batsmen try to gain control. The 100 arrives in the 35th but Thomas is also dangerous in these positions and gets Patel to upercut one to Hildreth before they get fully away 119 for 9. This inspires his opening partner into an extra effort and his well deserved five fer comes when he has Wright LBW at 124 and closes the innings with figures of 13.4/3/48/5 taking 4 for just over 20 in an hour and a half this morning to put his side needing 271 off 78. A game is definitely on!!
Somerset then try to undo all the good work as Barrow fails, caught by Maddy off Woakes' first over for nothing and Arul is comprehensively cleaned up by Barker with his second ball as the big man gets prodigious swing and flattens his stumps 2 for 2 with only 8 balls bowled and another clear up job for Hildreth and Compton.
Lunch at 15 for 2 and an afternoon of application expected from the Somerset men. It isn't what we get as James wafts at a loosener from Woakes and the first post lunch ball he faces and it is 15 for 3, Hildreth caught behind. So, we sigh and hopefully look at the next man in to make a significant stand with the only stable batsmen we seem to possess!! If there is ever a day for Craig Kieswetter to come of age and show exactly what he is clearly capable of... then this is it. No fireworks, no loose shots just workmanlike batting and accumulation of non risky runs. An innings, not a spectacular innings, just a substantial one.
He shows he has the shots with some early shots but he also looks for a risky two when there is no need so i am once again yet to be convinced. But he is still there when the real game starts with the introduction of Patel for the 15th over at 41 for 3. He is also still there when the 50 up arrives in the 18th.
Craig's own 50 comes up in 52 balls in the 80's (exactly the same number of balls as his first innings half ton) and significantly, Patel is removed from the attack in favour of Rikki Clarke about the same time. Whatever it was he was getting on Thursday he doesn't seem to be getting today. The 100 arrives and soon after at 115, the 100 partnership. The almost constant Warwickshire appealing is certainly getting on the nerves of more than one supporter around the place (it is enfuriating you have to agree when Clarke or Patel look like they've been mortally wounded as another demand to dismiss the batsman after a bat induced shot into the leg side from a long hop is not given out LBW immediately). It is going to the songsheet at the moment but the fat lady is nowhere near the building yet and will not be until we are this many down with 100 more runs on the card.
The next target is Tea and I have to apologise for the lack of updates afterwards as I am taking over the vocal duties with Mr Kerslake so you'll have to post your questions there and we will try an sort them out from the microphone.
Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
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CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 08:27
I'm assuming Rehmann won't be there or we'd have heard by now?
I believe George is unavailable?
Question; If neither of the above is available then, given the amount of rain that there has been, should we play either Waller or Leach simply for the sake of a balanced attack? Or should we play one of them only if we think they may play a major part in helping to win the match?
For a seam attack I suppose we can pick from Pete, Alf, Craig M, Lewis and Hussain.
What did people think of Hussain vs SA - worth a place?
I'd suggest we probably will pick Craig M alongside Pete and Alf.
And then it will probably be Hussain or Max or Leach for one place?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012:07:18:12:32:07 by Grockle.
I believe George is unavailable?
Question; If neither of the above is available then, given the amount of rain that there has been, should we play either Waller or Leach simply for the sake of a balanced attack? Or should we play one of them only if we think they may play a major part in helping to win the match?
For a seam attack I suppose we can pick from Pete, Alf, Craig M, Lewis and Hussain.
What did people think of Hussain vs SA - worth a place?
I'd suggest we probably will pick Craig M alongside Pete and Alf.
And then it will probably be Hussain or Max or Leach for one place?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012:07:18:12:32:07 by Grockle.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 09:41
Rose says today (Sunday) that Rehman has an interview in Lahore tomorrow (Monday) re his Visa, he pretty much admitted he was HIGHLY unlikely to play Wednesday.
He confirms neither Dockrell or 2 Overtons available due to under 19 workd cup, and Kirby not fit until Essex 1/4 final at earliest.
So i assume Pete will bat at 7 as normal, so that leaves Hussain and Thomas as 2 of the 4, then 2 out of Waller, Meschede and Gregory. We'd like to think Waller HAS to play but i wouldnt be surprised if he was the one to miss out.
Assume top 6 will be, Arul, Alex, Nick, Hildy, Craig, Jos.
He confirms neither Dockrell or 2 Overtons available due to under 19 workd cup, and Kirby not fit until Essex 1/4 final at earliest.
So i assume Pete will bat at 7 as normal, so that leaves Hussain and Thomas as 2 of the 4, then 2 out of Waller, Meschede and Gregory. We'd like to think Waller HAS to play but i wouldnt be surprised if he was the one to miss out.
Assume top 6 will be, Arul, Alex, Nick, Hildy, Craig, Jos.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 10:02
So in a game we simply have to win to have a stab at the title IMO we are without five of our attack. What a season this has been for a team being decimated.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 10:29
Thinking about this further. We need to get warks out twice to win this. I'd therefore get as much bowling as poss in the team . I'd therefore leave out barrow for this game and open with Gregory . Team would be. AS, LG,NC , JH, CK,JB,PT , CM, AT,MW and GH. That means 5 seamers and 2 to spin and a strong batting line up too. I'm up for this now.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 11:26
Think Barrow might be pushing Arul for that opening spot?
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 13:15
Gotta say though in a season where the side has been decimated please be aware that we are still talking about having an outside chance of winning it.
It would be a season to beat all seasons if we stayed in contention but I doubt there are many sides who would be doing what we are with about 50% of their resources available.
We will do very well to beat Warks given the gaps. Hussain will play but they need to bowl him in short spells I think. Waller will also play surely, although it may be why Barrow does not take Arul's place as they may look to rely on him for slow bowling options.
Craig looked good for an all rounder place and we have to hope Lewis is getting his bowling issues sorted and can hold his part of the side together.
It would be a season to beat all seasons if we stayed in contention but I doubt there are many sides who would be doing what we are with about 50% of their resources available.
We will do very well to beat Warks given the gaps. Hussain will play but they need to bowl him in short spells I think. Waller will also play surely, although it may be why Barrow does not take Arul's place as they may look to rely on him for slow bowling options.
Craig looked good for an all rounder place and we have to hope Lewis is getting his bowling issues sorted and can hold his part of the side together.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 13:38
I think I'm aware grockle.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 14:20
Didn't at any time say you weren't Ron.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 14:47
I know. Massive game this week. Wish I could be there.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 14:57
Irrespective of how it comes out I just want to see the batsmen back up the bowling. Too often this season the boys pulled in to cover have done a very good job only to be let down by the men with the willow.
An all around good performance whatever the outcome will do me.
An all around good performance whatever the outcome will do me.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 15:21
Cannot understand why somebody suggested that Barrow might get in the CC team ahead of Arul? Massively unlikely, I would have thought. Barrow's not yet done nearly enough to suggest he might supplant Arul.
I'm not even sure it it's certain that Barrow will keep his place, or whether Jones might come into contention?
I'm not even sure it it's certain that Barrow will keep his place, or whether Jones might come into contention?
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 15:39
I think the perspective fromt he poster is more on what Arul hasn't done than what Barrow has but I have to agree with you AG. They'll play Arul as the second spinner at least.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: litlekeithy (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2012 16:27
What is it with the downer on Arul?
He has batted well in the CC, easily the best in the Durham win, and then played low down in the T20 and cb40 with little chance of reversing poor displays. When he opened against Durham in the semi final last year he basically set up the win.
To me, there is a case to play him up the order as he plays spin/slow wickets better than most, and that is a recurring weakness in the side, and can accelerate plus bowl. Today's batting against Scotland is not proof of the correctness of his omission.
He has batted well in the CC, easily the best in the Durham win, and then played low down in the T20 and cb40 with little chance of reversing poor displays. When he opened against Durham in the semi final last year he basically set up the win.
To me, there is a case to play him up the order as he plays spin/slow wickets better than most, and that is a recurring weakness in the side, and can accelerate plus bowl. Today's batting against Scotland is not proof of the correctness of his omission.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2012 07:44
Have to say I like Ronnie's above selection. Plenty of bowling, solid 1-7 and people who can bat a bit at 8,9,10. Waller surely has to play as the only standing specialist spinner, although now we appear to have a second part-time spinner in CK(?!).
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2012 11:24
Quote:litlekeithy
What is it with the downer on Arul?
He has batted well in the CC, easily the best in the Durham win, and then played low down in the T20 and cb40 with little chance of reversing poor displays. When he opened against Durham in the semi final last year he basically set up the win.
To me, there is a case to play him up the order as he plays spin/slow wickets better than most, and that is a recurring weakness in the side, and can accelerate plus bowl. Today's batting against Scotland is not proof of the correctness of his omission.
I tend to agree! Arul appears to be the fall guy most times as far as the batters are concerned, and his SLA is useful. I'm still not convinced that Nick is a better T20 or 40 over opener than Arul. In view of his superb CC form, it will be a tragedy if he inadvertently tries to transfer his biff/bang/wallop shorter form shots to the CC.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2012 11:38
Arul will play on Wednesday unless he is injured or something that we dont know about. Even more so if Rehman doesnt get here in time for the game.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2012 14:35
Well thats my theory out the window. Gergory will be playing in the 2nds with Tres so hes not playing v Warks.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2012 18:26
Could be a match fitness thing. They don't yet want to risk him for a 4 day game, perhaps.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2012 19:29
Was thinking about popping down to Coggeshall tomorrow, but the forecast and my "to do" list have conspired to change my mind.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 17/07/2012 06:04
Having been at Trent Bridge when Marcus did the ankle for the second time I have been considering a self-imposed ban on going to see him.
At least I was not also there the first time he did it.
At least I was not also there the first time he did it.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 17/07/2012 07:20
An amazing sight in TA1 this morning! A large yellow thing in the sky to the east! Is it an alien attack? Could it possibly be that there won't be any rain today? Will that mean that our bowlers will just run all over Warwickshire tomorrow? Or could we be all out for 50 again?? Keeping everything crossed!!!
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 17/07/2012 16:37
Old Boy will be happy. Max finally gets a start.
Side;Barrow,Arul,Compo,Hildy,Craig,Jos,Trego,Thomas,Hussain,Waller and Meschede.
Side;Barrow,Arul,Compo,Hildy,Craig,Jos,Trego,Thomas,Hussain,Waller and Meschede.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 17/07/2012 16:48
7 bowlers (incl CK!)!
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 17/07/2012 17:59
Quote:nelliec
Old Boy will be happy. Max finally gets a start.
Side;Barrow,Arul,Compo,Hildy,Craig,Jos,Trego,Thomas,Hussain,Waller and Meschede.
If he (Max) gets on early enough, it could be all over by teatime on Friday!!! Perhaps match figures of 10 for not many?? A Somerset win I mean OF COURSE!!!
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 01:18
Quote:SCCC mean "You're worse than Kirby, Dibble and the Overtons".Gemaal Hussain will lead a below strength Somerset bowling attack
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 08:01
It is now raining in Taunton.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 08:42
Scrumper: 
Afraid it's true, though. But let's see what he can do. Short 4-5 over bursts, perhaps?
Mike:
Afraid it's true, though. But let's see what he can do. Short 4-5 over bursts, perhaps?
Mike:
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 08:46
The bad news? It's raining!
The good news? It's raining very heavily! (My theory being that there can't be much left!!!)
The good news? It's raining very heavily! (My theory being that there can't be much left!!!)
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 10:31
Cricinfo is saying - Match start delayed (Start delayed due to rain) - Day 1
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 11:33
Yep. Grey overcast morning 11:45 start if no more rain. Wed have won the toss and ARE GOING TO FIELD!!
Barrow, Suppiah, Compton, Hildreth, Kieswetter, Buttler, Trego, Meschede, Thomas, Waller, Hussain
Warks pretty much as you would expect.
Barrow, Suppiah, Compton, Hildreth, Kieswetter, Buttler, Trego, Meschede, Thomas, Waller, Hussain
Warks pretty much as you would expect.
Re: CC bowling attack vs Warks
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 12:32
Yeah, let's just say that if Hussain is ever going to come to the party this match would be a might fine place to start, Chinaman and Scrumper.
I'd think he simply has to prove effective over the next 2 or 3 games or he'll be back out of the team and the third year of his contract may be paid off?
I'd think he simply has to prove effective over the next 2 or 3 games or he'll be back out of the team and the third year of his contract may be paid off?
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Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 12:35
Doesn't Chopra usually scorr about 500 against us?
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 12:37
Was hooked for 4 when he tried to bounce the batsman second ball but has settled in a little now. 25 for 0 with the covers on (may be off in a minute but BIG black clouds over the Quantocks).
He does need to sort out overs 5 to 8 of a spell when he loses it a little. It's a big game for him and Max especially but it looks like an on and off game over the four days for everyone.
He does need to sort out overs 5 to 8 of a spell when he loses it a little. It's a big game for him and Max especially but it looks like an on and off game over the four days for everyone.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 12:38
Back on at 12:45 10 overs lost already on the days allocation.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 12:51
Quote:Grockle
Was hooked for 4 when he tried to bounce the batsman second ball but has settled in a little now. 25 for 0 with the covers on (may be off in a minute but BIG black clouds over the Quantocks).
He does need to sort out overs 5 to 8 of a spell when he loses it a little. It's a big game for him and Max especially but it looks like an on and off game over the four days for everyone.
Max may or may not have a bit of leeway, I guess? It depends on Rehmann's visa
I assume we don't see George again this season?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 13:28
U19 world cup final is on 26 August. Group matches finish on 16 August but all teams that do not qualify for the knockout stages go into a Plate competition with similar knockout rounds. By the end of the competition all teams will have competed for a ranking from 1-16. So our U19 team memebers will be unavailabe until about the beginning of September.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 14:25
Was that here Romsonian?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 14:42
Early Tea at 3:10. Inspection at 3:30 - no chance at the moment....lots of wet stuff and covers.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Romsonian (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 14:58
Quote:Grockle
Was that here Romsonian?
Hi Grockle, no, was at the Emirates in the game in which we were cruelly robbed by the weather. I tried to insert a link to the card in the prev. post for ref. Here it is again:
Durham Card
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 15:21
Thanks - Just checking because I meant first time at Taunton but it isn't clear so I'll go in and sort. Thanks for picking it up.
"Cruelly robbed"..... You may say that, I couldn't possibly comment.
"Cruelly robbed"..... You may say that, I couldn't possibly comment.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 15:40
Further inspection at 4:15 and if it isn't raining again by then I will be very very surprised.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 16:24
Hammering down over the ground now. That I suspect will be the end of it for the day.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 16:38
Sunny with little chance of any more rain driving back from wellington.Maybe a 5.30 start? Although I dont know the state of the pitch down there
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 16:39
no, all over for the day according to cricinfo.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 16:51
Yep as I type in brilliant sunshine with clear blue skies coming over the ground the umpires have called it off.
To be fair, when they did it was belting down with a vengance and had been for about an hour.
Anyway, back tomorrow and Jos in the World T20 squad.
To be fair, when they did it was belting down with a vengance and had been for about an hour.
Anyway, back tomorrow and Jos in the World T20 squad.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 16:53
Another squalid weather day ruining our summer past-time.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 17:01
Might fire up the barbecue now. Typical!!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 17:31
Day one photos.
This was short and sweet, I managed to take six photos and this is four of them.
Gemaal didn’t start his bowling to good this is one of the loose balls being hit for four runs by Varun Chopra.
And then Gemaal settled down and bowled several good balls this one beating Ian Westwood’s bat.
This was the second ball to beat Ian Westwood’s bat off Gemaal Hussain.
This is Ian Westwood ct Jos Buttler bld Peter Trego, Peter Trego also beat the bat several times after the first few overs.
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This was short and sweet, I managed to take six photos and this is four of them.
Gemaal didn’t start his bowling to good this is one of the loose balls being hit for four runs by Varun Chopra.
And then Gemaal settled down and bowled several good balls this one beating Ian Westwood’s bat.
This was the second ball to beat Ian Westwood’s bat off Gemaal Hussain.
This is Ian Westwood ct Jos Buttler bld Peter Trego, Peter Trego also beat the bat several times after the first few overs.
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The link to my Photos on Photobucket - [s1152.photobucket.com]Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:07:18:18:30:44 by Mike TA1.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 18/07/2012 18:08
Really sorry for those of you who endured a very disappointing day.
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 08:37
Some strange blue patches seen in the sky just now!! BUT some nasty looking grey/black ones behind them!! For the simple minded of us, what can that mean please?? Answers on a postcard to reach us by Saturday!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 11:32
This morning's (local) commentator has just said that Waller's career as "been blighted by injury". Is there some blightedness that I have missed?
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 12:20
Diagnosed as the blight, I think. Nasty
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 13:41
Quote:Loyal of Lhasa.
This morning's (local) commentator has just said that Waller's career as "been blighted by injury". Is there some blightedness that I have missed?
I don't think so.
I'd guess they looked in Who's Who, saw he hasn't played many CC games, added two and two together, and got seven.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 14:10
How much longer before Old Boy calls for a little spell for Max?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 14:16
Having watched this morning's events, I do wish the bowlers would look a little ANGRY when they get hit for four! Hussain particularly, but it applied to them all really. About half a dozen very good balls, but interspersed with half volleys outside off stumps and a few wides. Unless Alfonso can work miracles with his own bowling or he can bring himself to trust the slow men (mainly because the pace needs to be taken off the balls) then IMO we could be staring down the barrel of a large total (having put them in). However, lets hope I have to eat humble pie (which I am always happy to do if appropriate).
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 14:21
Apparently Mark Boucher had his op this morning and word is that it went well.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 14:29
Waller, imagine what he'll be like when he gets warmed up.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 14:38
How big a slice do you want OB![[:wor kid:]](/phorum-5.1.15/mods/smileys/images/13.gif "[:wor kid:]")
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 15:09
Quote:Nailsea_Fizz
How big a slice do you want OB
Some of Tesco's 30p Brown Sauce, on a sliver of humble pie will go down nicely!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 15:10
Could we loan out Hussain to ANYONE??
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 15:28
Starting to sound a bit grim for us, especially with another injury.
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 15:29
Quote:old boy!
Could we loan out Hussain to ANYONE??
There must be someone in the depths of Div Two for whom he could take wickets?
But one good ball out of six doesn't cut it at Div One level, I'm afraid.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 15:34
Who's the injury?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 16:32
Craig M went off for some while, apparently.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 16:58
hes fine.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 17:22
At least Max's performance so far indicates that Alf and him should be in for the next match anyway. Now we know why Warwickshire are top of the league! We will, undoubtably need another gigantic innings from Nick Compton!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 17:33
Quote:old boy!
Having watched this morning's events, I do wish the bowlers would look a little ANGRY when they get hit for four! Hussain particularly, but it applied to them all really. About half a dozen very good balls, but interspersed with half volleys outside off stumps and a few wides. Unless Alfonso can work miracles with his own bowling or he can bring himself to trust the slow men (mainly because the pace needs to be taken off the balls) then IMO we could be staring down the barrel of a large total (having put them in). However, lets hope I have to eat humble pie (which I am always happy to do if appropriate).
I think I can at least forget the humble pie as none of Alf's miracles have worked!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 17:49
what has max done to cement a place OB?
Warks will win the title IMO......our bowling is simply not up to it and when you factor in injuries it makes it even more difficult.
Warks will win the title IMO......our bowling is simply not up to it and when you factor in injuries it makes it even more difficult.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 18:51
Quote:old boy!
At least Max's performance so far indicates that Alf and him should be in for the next match anyway. Now we know why Warwickshire are top of the league! We will, undoubtably need another gigantic innings from Nick Compton!
????
I think Max displayed exactly why management has shown little confidence thus far.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 18:56
I think Max deserves more time. As far as the match is concerned, lets see what we make in the first innings. I agree that the attack was weak, but there doesn't appear to be any umph!! about them!! I would like to see them get angry when they are hit for four!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 19:04
They get hit for four that often they're probably used to it. We are a side just drifting Fromm game to game in cc cricket. Someone in the hierarchy needs to grasp the mettle and give us some sort of rudder. Rose not even there today checking on Marcus to see if he can make Tuesday. T20 now the clubs priority despite what they say publicly and that saddens me somewhat.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 19:21
I think the defining moment of the day was when Tregs dropped a sitter off meschede when Troughton was on 13 I think. PT was livid with himself for the next few overs.At the time these things dont appear to affect the result, but in hindsight we could easily have been batting after tea.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 20:02
Pretty surprised at these comments from Alf on the other site:
“The pitch just seemed to get easier to bat on as the moisture went out of it and in the end it was typical Taunton.
“Our seamers got a bit despondent and there wasn’t much there for the spinners either. Now we face two days of hard work to avoid defeat.
All pretty down beat & hardly designed to inspire.
Grizzzly
“The pitch just seemed to get easier to bat on as the moisture went out of it and in the end it was typical Taunton.
“Our seamers got a bit despondent and there wasn’t much there for the spinners either. Now we face two days of hard work to avoid defeat.
All pretty down beat & hardly designed to inspire.
Grizzzly
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 20:10
Day two photos.
A full day’s play and finishing right on 6 o/clock.
Doesn’t Max Waller look pleased after he caught and bowled Rikki Clarke.
Laurie Evans caught by a very good catch by Peter Trego off Alfonso Thomas.
Jim Troughton just managed to get the bottom of his bat on this ball from Alfonso Thomas.
Jim Troughton getting an edge on this ball from Peter Trego.
You could call him lucky Jim, the ball going between first and second slip.
I thought Craig Kieswetter had a good day today this diving catch to dismiss Darren Maddy of Alfonso Thomas.
A full day’s play and finishing right on 6 o/clock.
Doesn’t Max Waller look pleased after he caught and bowled Rikki Clarke.
Laurie Evans caught by a very good catch by Peter Trego off Alfonso Thomas.
Jim Troughton just managed to get the bottom of his bat on this ball from Alfonso Thomas.
Jim Troughton getting an edge on this ball from Peter Trego.
You could call him lucky Jim, the ball going between first and second slip.
I thought Craig Kieswetter had a good day today this diving catch to dismiss Darren Maddy of Alfonso Thomas.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 20:36
Quote:Grizzzly
Pretty surprised at these comments from Alf on the other site:
“The pitch just seemed to get easier to bat on as the moisture went out of it and in the end it was typical Taunton.
“Our seamers got a bit despondent and there wasn’t much there for the spinners either. Now we face two days of hard work to avoid defeat.
All pretty down beat & hardly designed to inspire.
Grizzzly
If Alf actually said as above, then it confirms what I saw in the team on the field. I'm afraid that a GOOD captain doesn't give that HUGE BOOST to the opposition!! Sorry ALf - give up the job and concentrate on what you do best when not distracted by leadership questions. Thats my opinion.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 20:40
My thoughts too grizzly. It's as if they never really believed they can do it. I feel it's t20 or bust forbthem now and thats the way the season has panned out.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 20:49
I'm sure we'd have all preferred it if Alfie had come out with some bland media-speak about a tough day at the office, the lads tried hard, lots of injuries, Warwickshire are a tough side, etc etc - wouldn't we? Who needs the truth when there's all this stuff already written for our captain to use - what was he thinking...
PS I see Tres was out to Charl in the 2nd XI game today
PS I see Tres was out to Charl in the 2nd XI game today
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 20:55
Without Tres we seem to be lacking any Buzz out in the middle.Everything seems more lethargic between overs than previous, when everyone would be sprinting from end to end.Kirbs made more noise during his lunchtime fitness session(looks almost 100%),than the rest of the team today.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 20:57
Quote:SheptonPaul
I'm sure we'd have all preferred it if Alfie had come out with some bland media-speak about a tough day at the office, the lads tried hard, lots of injuries, Warwickshire are a tough side, etc etc - wouldn't we? Who needs the truth when there's all this stuff already written for our captain to use - what was he thinking...
PS I see Tres was out to Charl in the 2nd XI game today
How does Troughton inspire his men tomorrow?? Give them all a copy of what ALF has said! Job done!! If a fine day, lets hope we doubters are wrong, and that it isn't all over by stumps!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 20:59
Quote:nelliec
Without Tres we seem to be lacking any Buzz out in the middle.Everything seems more lethargic between overs than previous, when everyone would be sprinting from end to end.Kirbs made more noise during his lunchtime fitness session(looks almost 100%),than the rest of the team today.
What you say is spot on!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 22:14
Seems to me that Alf has done no more than tell it exactly as it happened. Meschede bowled well with no luck, Alf bowled with a bit of heart and Arul bowled as well as you could expect from an occasional bowler. The rest simply bowled.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: just in (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 22:15
Hands up all those who think The 'great' Alfonso Thomas is a good choice as captain...I find it hard to beleive that my U12 nephew couldn't have done a better job at inspiring a side on the field today...and then he makes an utter nonsense of the after match interview...for goodness sale Alfonso...head back to the IPL..earn your money and leave Somerset in the hands of someone who wants the job...pathetic!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Tops (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 22:28
Having watched today I am afraid that three things became clear.
1. Hussain does not show the ability to make it at Division 1 level. There is no devil in his bowling and to be honest he did not look like taking a wicket. Even if he has one more year left on his contract I would pay him off because he is behind 7 other seamers on our staff.
2. Max is not a county championship bowler. In limited over cricket when players must attack him he is fine, butin 4day cricket they just wait for the at least one bad ball per over and punish it.
3 A.T is not a captain. There was little encouragement coming through, when we were faced by the Troughton Woakes partnership, it all seemed to drift. We were led to believe that JH did not want to remain captain, but I am sure that if he was told how much he was wanted, and as I believe to be true, the players want and respect him he would do the job.
1. Hussain does not show the ability to make it at Division 1 level. There is no devil in his bowling and to be honest he did not look like taking a wicket. Even if he has one more year left on his contract I would pay him off because he is behind 7 other seamers on our staff.
2. Max is not a county championship bowler. In limited over cricket when players must attack him he is fine, butin 4day cricket they just wait for the at least one bad ball per over and punish it.
3 A.T is not a captain. There was little encouragement coming through, when we were faced by the Troughton Woakes partnership, it all seemed to drift. We were led to believe that JH did not want to remain captain, but I am sure that if he was told how much he was wanted, and as I believe to be true, the players want and respect him he would do the job.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 22:46
Have to agree entirely Tops on points 1, 2 and 3. Well said.
The most immediate action that is required from Rose is for James Hildreth to take over the captaincy.
What is the point in Rose watching our Second Eleven game v. Essex instead of the Warwickshire game? Trescothick was never seriously going to be considered for the Twenty 20 quarter - final, and nor should he be.
Most strange in my opinion.
As far as today's play is concerned, it was all too predictable in my opinion, though I confess to not having been there.
We are looking down the barrel in the County Championship at present.
The most immediate action that is required from Rose is for James Hildreth to take over the captaincy.
What is the point in Rose watching our Second Eleven game v. Essex instead of the Warwickshire game? Trescothick was never seriously going to be considered for the Twenty 20 quarter - final, and nor should he be.
Most strange in my opinion.
As far as today's play is concerned, it was all too predictable in my opinion, though I confess to not having been there.
We are looking down the barrel in the County Championship at present.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 22:55
Unfortunately i agree with all 3 points.
I had high hopes for Hussain, and he "looks" like he should be a good bowler, nice action, tall etc, but there is just no venom there, he's the nicest fast bowler i've ever seen, just no agression.
Max really was poor today, i like him and had hoped he'd grasp his chance but there was little threat, hated his field too, whethere it's him or Alfie but straight away he had 3 men on boundary, and often even 4 or 5. Surely to start you've at least git to have 2 close catchers and a ring, if they hit over top or we start leaking runs fine defend a bit but not from the start.
As for Alfie and the fielders today, honestly the flatest i have ever seen the team look, no buzz, energy whatsoever, i appreciate it was tough but little things like unusual fields, gee-ing up the bowlers, running between overs, bit of short stuff with men on leg side, we just let whole thing drift from such a good position at 162-6.
As Alfie says all we can do now is bat for 2 days and try not to lose 20 wickets, where as at5 2.30pm we were right in the match.
Very much looking forward to Tres and more so Kirby to return to get them going again.
I had high hopes for Hussain, and he "looks" like he should be a good bowler, nice action, tall etc, but there is just no venom there, he's the nicest fast bowler i've ever seen, just no agression.
Max really was poor today, i like him and had hoped he'd grasp his chance but there was little threat, hated his field too, whethere it's him or Alfie but straight away he had 3 men on boundary, and often even 4 or 5. Surely to start you've at least git to have 2 close catchers and a ring, if they hit over top or we start leaking runs fine defend a bit but not from the start.
As for Alfie and the fielders today, honestly the flatest i have ever seen the team look, no buzz, energy whatsoever, i appreciate it was tough but little things like unusual fields, gee-ing up the bowlers, running between overs, bit of short stuff with men on leg side, we just let whole thing drift from such a good position at 162-6.
As Alfie says all we can do now is bat for 2 days and try not to lose 20 wickets, where as at5 2.30pm we were right in the match.
Very much looking forward to Tres and more so Kirby to return to get them going again.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 23:03
Quote:Grizzzly
Pretty surprised at these comments from Alf on the other site:
“The pitch just seemed to get easier to bat on as the moisture went out of it and in the end it was typical Taunton.
“Our seamers got a bit despondent and there wasn’t much there for the spinners either. Now we face two days of hard work to avoid defeat.
All pretty down beat & hardly designed to inspire.
Grizzzly
The quote makes little sense, surely?
If - as he implies the pitch became a flat track - then why should it be such hard work to make 20 wickets last 5 sessions or so to avoid defeat?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 23:08
Quite depressed reading these comments about the team in the field - mainly because I could have said exactly the same about them in their most recent CC outing at Lord's where we got battered by the Middx batsmen.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 23:14
I think there is a VERY big chance Trescothick will be playing Tuesday and most probably Sunday too as a warm up.
Whether he should or not is another matter, but that will be Brians logic as he is most definitely being considered for Tuesday, more so i guess if Morkel is not released.
Whether he should or not is another matter, but that will be Brians logic as he is most definitely being considered for Tuesday, more so i guess if Morkel is not released.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Roger Sweet (IP Logged)
Date: 19/07/2012 23:23
Sad to admit that Arul bowled much better today than Maxie. For those of you wondering why we played any spinner, be thankful that we did as we would otherwise be in danger of losing points for a slow over rate. It has been a poor match for AT as captain - no energy in the field as yet again I have witnessed another double century 7th wicket partnership at Taunton!!! The big discussion point in my section of the Tres stand was the complete lack of any on-field motivation. Any time Steve Kirby is injured, we should bring Steffan out of retirement!!!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 00:26
Under -estimating Arul when you call him an "occasional bowler".
He's been a better match day spinner than his compatriots in more than one game over more than one season
I still don't understand the move to Alf as captain when he returned but asa I don't know James' take on this - did he instigate it or not - I find it hard to comment on what action should be taken.
Seems obvious that the Overton's at least have overtaken Hussain in the pace bowling stakes and the man has a lot of work to do to convince people that he is worth a third year. He looked good at the start of yesterday but seems to look less incisive as his spells get longer.
The T20 is realisitically the only trophy hope for Somerset this year. To be honest the CC dream has gone on longer that it should have given the obstacles put in the way during 2012. One has to assume however that we are stronger in the batting department than the bowling presently so this game isn't lost yet.
He's been a better match day spinner than his compatriots in more than one game over more than one season
I still don't understand the move to Alf as captain when he returned but asa I don't know James' take on this - did he instigate it or not - I find it hard to comment on what action should be taken.
Seems obvious that the Overton's at least have overtaken Hussain in the pace bowling stakes and the man has a lot of work to do to convince people that he is worth a third year. He looked good at the start of yesterday but seems to look less incisive as his spells get longer.
The T20 is realisitically the only trophy hope for Somerset this year. To be honest the CC dream has gone on longer that it should have given the obstacles put in the way during 2012. One has to assume however that we are stronger in the batting department than the bowling presently so this game isn't lost yet.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Cary Castle1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 06:14
Some two weeks ago I posted comments made to me by a steward stating that there were issues/divisions between players, coaching staff and the Director of Cricket.
Having attended all of the home games since these comments were made, particularly yesterday's performance, I am beginning to believe that there was credence in his comments.
We are never going to win every game, we will have "bad days at the office", but come on lads how about displaying some team effort and could the captain please display some leadership ! If he cannot, then lets appoint another captain asap.
My average return journey time to Taunton on British Rail is 5 hours, and it would be nice to think that my efforts and enthusiasm in getting to Taunton would be matched by enthusiasm, effort, and leadership on the field of play.
Alas currently it is not.
Finally, please BR do not roll out the injury crisis, international call ups etc as an excuse for the lack of team spirit, effort, or lack of captaincy skills, as they are not connected. All I ask is that whichever team is available for selection is that they take to the field with pride and show the paying public some effort and spirit. I have been supporting our team for over 57 years, and will continue to do so, but come on, we need improvements, and quickly
Having attended all of the home games since these comments were made, particularly yesterday's performance, I am beginning to believe that there was credence in his comments.
We are never going to win every game, we will have "bad days at the office", but come on lads how about displaying some team effort and could the captain please display some leadership ! If he cannot, then lets appoint another captain asap.
My average return journey time to Taunton on British Rail is 5 hours, and it would be nice to think that my efforts and enthusiasm in getting to Taunton would be matched by enthusiasm, effort, and leadership on the field of play.
Alas currently it is not.
Finally, please BR do not roll out the injury crisis, international call ups etc as an excuse for the lack of team spirit, effort, or lack of captaincy skills, as they are not connected. All I ask is that whichever team is available for selection is that they take to the field with pride and show the paying public some effort and spirit. I have been supporting our team for over 57 years, and will continue to do so, but come on, we need improvements, and quickly
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 06:39
I really do feel uneasy about Marcus potentially being rushed back for Tuesday.
Brian's comments about MT being 'a bit shaky on his legs,' do absolutely nothing to convince me that a Tuesday return is appropriate.
Brian's comments about MT being 'a bit shaky on his legs,' do absolutely nothing to convince me that a Tuesday return is appropriate.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 06:45
All make excellent points. T20 is the only chance now this season but I believe that's what the club wants. Cc to me takes second place despite the lip service. We need to look at the county market get 2 of the best players we can possibly get and stop p&ssin bout trying to sign overseas it's now too difficult. Some will have to go too. Personally I don't think hussain or max will be here next year . Saddens me re max. That way with the emergence of some young players we might get the challenge we all crave but at the moment are any other team affected by injury non test call ups unavailibility as we are and it's now showing.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 06:48
I agree Ronnie. Need to try and recruit a couple of decent domestic players for next season and should probably use the budget that would normally be spent on overseas players.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 08:12
Good job we have an "outsider" as captain at the moment to be the scapegoat. Perhaps James has been an awful lot more astute than we give him credit for. Let someone else take the poison chalice of leading an uncompetative team, at least 6 first choice players short and shorn of it's entire bowling attack and it's talismen and then take over when our stock begins to rise. We were humiliated a number of times earlier in the season - particular performances in the CB40 spring to mind but selective memories seem to forget that Thomas was not in charge then!
Certainly agree with posters regarding recruitment, overseas stars are now a waste of time
Certainly agree with posters regarding recruitment, overseas stars are now a waste of time
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 08:25
If this squad can at least ensure we stay in Div One of the CC, then we can hope for a refreshed skipper and group of supporting players, with fewer injuries, to be able to attack that competition properly in 2013.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 09:01
Quote:SheptonPaul
If this squad can at least ensure we stay in Div One of the CC, then we can hope for a refreshed skipper and group of supporting players, with fewer injuries, to be able to attack that competition properly in 2013.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 09:18
Quote:Railboy
Good job we have an "outsider" as captain at the moment to be the scapegoat. Perhaps James has been an awful lot more astute than we give him credit for. Let someone else take the poison chalice of leading an uncompetative team, at least 6 first choice players short and shorn of it's entire bowling attack and it's talismen and then take over when our stock begins to rise. We were humiliated a number of times earlier in the season - particular performances in the CB40 spring to mind but selective memories seem to forget that Thomas was not in charge then!
Certainly agree with posters regarding recruitment, overseas stars are now a waste of time
No one can say that I am one of the 'win everything' brigade, BUT even when things aren't going so well, I think we can expect players to CARE and show they care by showing some spirit. OR are the rumours near the truth that there is not harmony within the changing room? Marcus's absence will not have helped, of course.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 09:54
Rumours are rumours OB - they cloud issues until they become truth or disappear.
I think I'll go with what I can see or read in the factual observations of others whenever possible.
You'll all be able to listen to the
"Grocklees Show"
today (if the rain stays off) when Bagpuss and myself take over the commentary duties after lunch. We'll try and give you a first hand assessment of body language etc as we start to chase whatever target the Bears put in front of us... though last time I commentated on a Somerset v Warwickshire home game I saw something in the region of 14 Somerset wickets fall I seem to remember.
I think I'll go with what I can see or read in the factual observations of others whenever possible.
You'll all be able to listen to the
"Grocklees Show"
today (if the rain stays off) when Bagpuss and myself take over the commentary duties after lunch. We'll try and give you a first hand assessment of body language etc as we start to chase whatever target the Bears put in front of us... though last time I commentated on a Somerset v Warwickshire home game I saw something in the region of 14 Somerset wickets fall I seem to remember.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 10:08
Shepton P totally agree with your sentiments.
Buts its funny how its always "next season"
Buts its funny how its always "next season"
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 10:10
Quote:Grockle
Rumours are rumours OB - they cloud issues until they become truth or disappear.
I think I'll go with what I can see or read in the factual observations of others whenever possible.
You'll all be able to listen to the
"Grocklees Show"
today (if the rain stays off) when Bagpuss and myself take over the commentary duties after lunch. We'll try and give you a first hand assessment of body language etc as we start to chase whatever target the Bears put in front of us... though last time I commentated on a Somerset v Warwickshire home game I saw something in the region of 14 Somerset wickets fall I seem to remember.
Grockle, I'm like you and not convinced by rumours. I prefer to judge on what I see myself, AND IMO there isn't much self-belief about in the home camp at present. Being the external optimist I am sure it CAN be turned around, but probably too late for this year.
Would be delighted to listen to you and Bagpuss spouting on this PM, but hopefully I will be looking in at you from the comfort of the old V/P stand.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:16
I have no idea what role, if any, Alf has played in current, apparent attitude in the field.
I can say that SCCC looked thoroughly committed at the Oval and performed well in the field. And I can say that James was captain that match and clearly out-captained his opposite number in that match.
I can also say that we looked sorry in the field at Lord's against Middx 3 or so weeks later. And Alf was captain for that game.
And it sounds as though we've looked a little sorry for ourselves in this one. Indeed, Alf's own reference to 'becoming despondent,' seems to itself reflect that?
I can say that SCCC looked thoroughly committed at the Oval and performed well in the field. And I can say that James was captain that match and clearly out-captained his opposite number in that match.
I can also say that we looked sorry in the field at Lord's against Middx 3 or so weeks later. And Alf was captain for that game.
And it sounds as though we've looked a little sorry for ourselves in this one. Indeed, Alf's own reference to 'becoming despondent,' seems to itself reflect that?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:17
Quote:SheptonPaul
If this squad can at least ensure we stay in Div One of the CC, then we can hope for a refreshed skipper and group of supporting players, with fewer injuries, to be able to attack that competition properly in 2013.
And I would think that it should be well within our compass to ensure that we do, indeed, stay in Division One, SP.
Rehmann turning up would certainly help though, IMO.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:20
Thommo gets the bonus points with a ball to go as he takes Patel and Wright with balls 4 and 5 - 6 for 60.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:29
Grockle -- at least Warks have made 250 or so fewer than last time you commentated on SCCC vs Warks in the CC!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:30
I think most of us have no reason to complain about Alf's bowling over the years.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:33
Captains performance!!
Think what would have happened if he had actually cared or tried! (looks for correct smiley winkey type thing to convey irony rather than sarcasm!)
Think what would have happened if he had actually cared or tried! (looks for correct smiley winkey type thing to convey irony rather than sarcasm!)
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:38
Good to see, old boy!, that you are an "external optimist". Does that imply that management has banished you to the garden?
After this morning' performance so far I am an internal optimist, enjoying simultaneous commentary from Taunton and The Oval. Somerset are beating England so far.
All the pessimistic stuff above has not mentioned that at he start of this match we were just 23 points (i.e. just over one win) behind the championship leaders.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
After this morning' performance so far I am an internal optimist, enjoying simultaneous commentary from Taunton and The Oval. Somerset are beating England so far.
All the pessimistic stuff above has not mentioned that at he start of this match we were just 23 points (i.e. just over one win) behind the championship leaders.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:44
Should we assume that you are watching one and listening to the other, LoL?
Or have you some elaborate headphone system that is pumping one game into ear, and the other into the other one?
Or have you some elaborate headphone system that is pumping one game into ear, and the other into the other one?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:57
Has Arul caught "poor calling disease," from Compton or was there a run there is Barrow set off promptly?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 11:59
Unfortunate run out of Barrow by Arul. Calling for a quick single while Alex is stuck in his crease because the ball was passing the bowler. Wright picks up and bang go the stumps with Alex face down in the dirt but short. 19 for 1.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 12:31
AGod: life is too short for me to watch live cricket on television, even if I had access to it. But my radio provides TMS and my computer provides commenary from the Potting Shed.
Amazing stuff, this technology.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Amazing stuff, this technology.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 12:38
Quote:Loyal of Lhasa.
AGod: life is too short for me to watch live cricket on television, even if I had access to it. But my radio provides TMS and my computer provides commenary from the Potting Shed.
Amazing stuff, this technology.
Yes, but I'm far more impressed wih your ability to digest two different streams simultaneously (I could imagine very well what technology you could have utilised to produce two separate 'audios,' of commentary, but found it more difficult to imagine somebody being able to digest the content of two audio streams simultaneously!)
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 13:15
No problems for a multi-tasking male: I am also editing four million word document and find I can deal with it all without difficulty. The only danger is spilling coffee on the keyboard when Somerset batsmen run each other out.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 13:17
Quote:Loyal of Lhasa.
Good to see, old boy!, that you are an "external optimist". Does that imply that management has banished you to the garden?
After this morning' performance so far I am an internal optimist, enjoying simultaneous commentary from Taunton and The Oval. Somerset are beating England so far.
All the pessimistic stuff above has not mentioned that at he start of this match we were just 23 points (i.e. just over one win) behind the championship leaders.
Lol
I am happy with "eternal optimists" - sometimes I'm mad about "Xs"
I am also happy with "internal optimists"
What I can't stand is "infernal optimists"
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 13:28
hopefully Grockle and Baggy will put on a large partnership in the afternoon session. Go to it boys and girls.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 13:37
I don't know how you do it all, LoL, especially as I'm sure you're also watching the Open - given your love of golf.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 13:45
A perfect way to enhance a good walk... was that not what LoL said about it?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 15:15
Sounded somewhat foolish from Jos, that dismissal.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 15:21
Buttler and Kieswetter dont know how to build an innings.
However, in their defence they may have been instructed to go for it here in that we do have to press on to at least try to get a result from this.
However, in their defence they may have been instructed to go for it here in that we do have to press on to at least try to get a result from this.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 15:23
If we need to press on for a result, we should hit out til tea, declare with a 130+ defecit and make Warks do something for the win.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 15:24
I think the team seems to play more or less in a mode of 'Compton anchors and the others go for it.'
I'm not sure, though, that that reflects instructions from Brian Rose. I would think not as Brian spent most of the winter stressing the merits of prolonged occupation of the crease.
Therefore, Brian may be somehwhat ticked off with wickets given away in trying to hit sixes (especially trying to hit a six having already hit one the previous ball!)
I'm not sure, though, that that reflects instructions from Brian Rose. I would think not as Brian spent most of the winter stressing the merits of prolonged occupation of the crease.
Therefore, Brian may be somehwhat ticked off with wickets given away in trying to hit sixes (especially trying to hit a six having already hit one the previous ball!)
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 15:35
Looks like there may be a result, but possibly not the one we are hoping for.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 15:37
another failure from trego in the CC.
Sorry but 100 v SA does not a season make. Time to wake up my boy or Gregory and Meschede will be in there for keeps.
Probably follow on here. That Thomas knows what he is talking about you know.
Sorry but 100 v SA does not a season make. Time to wake up my boy or Gregory and Meschede will be in there for keeps.
Probably follow on here. That Thomas knows what he is talking about you know.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 15:39
Pete's had to do far more bowling than ever before and done very well with the ball, but it does seem to have detracted from his batting in a fairly major way.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 15:58
Looks like another indifferent day for us.
Not much batting to come, so Compton and Alf had better get us past the follow-on or we may yet contrive to lose this one despite all of the time lost.
Not much batting to come, so Compton and Alf had better get us past the follow-on or we may yet contrive to lose this one despite all of the time lost.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Brother Of (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 15:59
Have a word with yourself Ronnie!! 30+ wkts this year tends to say to me that his place is not under threat from either of those 2 who are continually unable to string 3/4 games together due to injuries!
So many people on here put the side down,hence the reason why i post less and less on here.
We have a tremendous side that has been so so close in the past 3/4 yrs to winning things and i hope thats remembered when the side have a couple of poor seasons.
Rant over but get behind the boys please!!
COACH
So many people on here put the side down,hence the reason why i post less and less on here.
We have a tremendous side that has been so so close in the past 3/4 yrs to winning things and i hope thats remembered when the side have a couple of poor seasons.
Rant over but get behind the boys please!!
COACH
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:03
I dont buy that AG.
He has hardly bowled since the Middx game in early June and still his batting fails time and time again. Dont know if its confidence or technique or both.
His innings v SA seemed to indicate he was back but sadly not. Anyway all he was doing then was hitting it rather than thinking about it. A Somerset team with trego in it is better and you always felt in good hands with him coming in later but sadly not at the moment.
He has hardly bowled since the Middx game in early June and still his batting fails time and time again. Dont know if its confidence or technique or both.
His innings v SA seemed to indicate he was back but sadly not. Anyway all he was doing then was hitting it rather than thinking about it. A Somerset team with trego in it is better and you always felt in good hands with him coming in later but sadly not at the moment.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:21
In terms of the CC though, Ronnie, this IS his first innings since the previous occasion on which he bowled in the CC, back at Lord's?
So if you are talking about a poor season of CC returns with the bat (rather than just a low score here) then I think it may very well be related to the herculean efforts that he has had to make with the ball.
So if you are talking about a poor season of CC returns with the bat (rather than just a low score here) then I think it may very well be related to the herculean efforts that he has had to make with the ball.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:22
And the follow-on looms.
Marvellous. Not.
Marvellous. Not.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:26
Well he'll be above Gregory and Meschede for a while yet I'm afraid. He is doing no worse than them with the bat and is way ahead of them with the ball.
If you want to name a name I think Craig Overton would be the name and he has some way to go yet.
The sad thing is that after a number of seasons hoping he would get more from the ball, he now does and can't buy a run. In this game he probably got the best Patel ball of the session. Craig M got the second.
Over-reaction maybe.... the man held the bowling together for the first half of this season or wasn't that noticed? He has quite a bit more in the credit balance of his account than others who could be mentioned.
If you want to name a name I think Craig Overton would be the name and he has some way to go yet.
The sad thing is that after a number of seasons hoping he would get more from the ball, he now does and can't buy a run. In this game he probably got the best Patel ball of the session. Craig M got the second.
Over-reaction maybe.... the man held the bowling together for the first half of this season or wasn't that noticed? He has quite a bit more in the credit balance of his account than others who could be mentioned.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:30
I have no need to BO sorry my lad.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:33
Sam, it's always difficult posting on a forum, when one of the players being discussed / criticized, is a family member.No-one likes to hear their family got at.
That said I have no idea what sort of season Pete has had in 4 day cricket, but my perception is not nearly as good as limited overs stuff.
Maybe best to ignore everyone's posts except Big Jim!
That said I have no idea what sort of season Pete has had in 4 day cricket, but my perception is not nearly as good as limited overs stuff.
Maybe best to ignore everyone's posts except Big Jim!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:38
I think Pete has himself tweeted that he can't buy a run. And perhaps if he was being judged purely on batting merit then he'd be under more pressure.
But... as he's been the leading bowler all season long, it's a bit irrelevant and means he has the time to find his batting form.
I think I'd put Trego down as the 2nd name on my teamsheet after Compo for this seasons efforts.
But... as he's been the leading bowler all season long, it's a bit irrelevant and means he has the time to find his batting form.
I think I'd put Trego down as the 2nd name on my teamsheet after Compo for this seasons efforts.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:43
Credit to you, AGod, for saving the follow-on.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:50
Maybe it is wise to igonre posts about family members Botham you are right.
I had to laugh at get behind the team mentions and then he has more right than "those 2".
Get behind Meschede and Gregory too BO!! or have a word with yourself or whatever.
I had to laugh at get behind the team mentions and then he has more right than "those 2".
Get behind Meschede and Gregory too BO!! or have a word with yourself or whatever.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:52
Hussain needs to work on his defence a bit doesn't he!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Peros66 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 16:59
CC1 season basically over (which was always going to be the case as soon as Marcus was injured)
Now bring on some more T20 muck next week, the type of format that really suits the weak willed style of Somerset batting!
Now bring on some more T20 muck next week, the type of format that really suits the weak willed style of Somerset batting!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 17:00
Wonder if Pete is putting too much pressure on himself re his CC batting, He said after his SA ton that his performances "weren't acceptable" to him, & I suppose the tourist match gave him the chance to let off steam.
But his attitude is exemplary & let's get real, without his bowling this year we would be in a very sorry state indeed.
Without breaking confidences, I would be interested in bo's thoughts on the dressing room situation. Is there a problem or not one wonders, but the apparent lack of passion shown in the field is somewhat disconcerting.
Grizzzly
But his attitude is exemplary & let's get real, without his bowling this year we would be in a very sorry state indeed.
Without breaking confidences, I would be interested in bo's thoughts on the dressing room situation. Is there a problem or not one wonders, but the apparent lack of passion shown in the field is somewhat disconcerting.
Grizzzly
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 17:01
Peros66 - clearly a true fan!
Loads to play for, lads - keep fighting...
Loads to play for, lads - keep fighting...
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 17:06
His detractors might care to notice that Trego's batting average (27) is still ahead of his bowling average (26) for the season. When I was a lad, that relationship was reckoned to be the mark of an all-rounder.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Peros66 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 17:12
I am a true fan SP, but as frustrated as any other SCCC supporter I suppose.
It's blantantly obvious the amount of talent that there is at the club & when I look at each county player for player I can't help but think that we must have as easily as strong a line up as any other county, if not stronger, but when is this promise going to translate actually onto the pitch?
At 46 & supporting them since the mid 70's I am beginning to wonder if a CC will ever happen, that's all.
It's blantantly obvious the amount of talent that there is at the club & when I look at each county player for player I can't help but think that we must have as easily as strong a line up as any other county, if not stronger, but when is this promise going to translate actually onto the pitch?
At 46 & supporting them since the mid 70's I am beginning to wonder if a CC will ever happen, that's all.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 17:13
Patels' figures of 7-75 suggest a pretty impressive bowling performance !
Max's 1-78 sits a trifle uncomfortably alongside.
Grizzzly
Max's 1-78 sits a trifle uncomfortably alongside.
Grizzzly
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 17:18
Sorry Peros, I was a bit frustrated!
I'm similar in age and length of support as you - have faith, it will happen
I'm similar in age and length of support as you - have faith, it will happen
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 17:24
I've said it twice on here, once on the front and on radio but I'll keep saying it in case people aren't reading too quickly... Pete got Patel's best ball (closely followed by the one that got Craig M).
So it had nothing to do with a lack of application or some kind of upset by the supposed machinations of the dressing room discontent.
He got beaten by the best a bowler in a career best bowling spell could deliver early in his innings.
You wanna moan about someone then pick the guys who actually didn't get those good balls and still got out
So it had nothing to do with a lack of application or some kind of upset by the supposed machinations of the dressing room discontent.
He got beaten by the best a bowler in a career best bowling spell could deliver early in his innings.
You wanna moan about someone then pick the guys who actually didn't get those good balls and still got out
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 18:18
Please include me among those who donna wanna moana about anything (save perhaps impatient supporters)
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 18:31
I hope you have all checked that your halos aren't about to slip. How many will we chase tomorrow. Won't matter. We can't play spin. Check the Scotland game last week. I dare them to prove me wrong. Maybe that will get the reaction.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 18:33
Yep we're doomed!! Unless of course we aren't!! First session will decide this game
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 18:34
I was sitting on Gimbletts Hill during the earlier part of the season when I heard an enthusiastic supporter say to the gentleman sitting next to him: -
"I long for the day when I wake up in the morning and find myself having nothing to moan about."
He was talking at (rather than talking to) a couple of men whom he obviously perceived as 'moaning old gits'.
Sounds familiar?
"I long for the day when I wake up in the morning and find myself having nothing to moan about."
He was talking at (rather than talking to) a couple of men whom he obviously perceived as 'moaning old gits'.
Sounds familiar?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 18:51
Quote:Grizzzly
Wonder if Pete is putting too much pressure on himself re his CC batting, He said after his SA ton that his performances "weren't acceptable" to him, & I suppose the tourist match gave him the chance to let off steam.
But his attitude is exemplary & let's get real, without his bowling this year we would be in a very sorry state indeed.
Without breaking confidences, I would be interested in bo's thoughts on the dressing room situation. Is there a problem or not one wonders, but the apparent lack of passion shown in the field is somewhat disconcerting.
Grizzzly
I think that the balls which got Pete and Craig M were ones Patel will treasure. As far as the dressing room situation, I've heard the rumours, but there appears to be nothing to be gained by giving them official credence. Far far better for it (if there is any) to be sorted internally with no publicity. That will undoubtably come with any later auto- or bio-graphies when playing days are over!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 19:01
Quote:Ronniesabre
another failure from trego in the CC.
Sorry but 100 v SA does not a season make. Time to wake up my boy or Gregory and Meschede will be in there for keeps.
Probably follow on here. That Thomas knows what he is talking about you know.
Never mind the fact that a brave knock unheralded from Max did the job, surely Alf can't hide the fact that his quotes from last night did Troughton's job for him. If Alf doesn't feel up to it, then he should step aside (just like Hildreth APPARENTLY did!). Sorry but I think Alf is our best bowler, BUT not our best captain material. IMO
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 19:34
Careful old boy. Alfa brother might be waiting for u.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 19:57
Thanks Ronnie!!
Which bit would you think Alfonso would or wouldn't like - the fact that I thought he was our best bowler by streets, or my opinion that there might be more appropriate captain material? I would be happy to discuss with him the pros and cons of handing the opposition first class propaganda material, such as "we were rubbish and can't possibly win!".
Which bit would you think Alfonso would or wouldn't like - the fact that I thought he was our best bowler by streets, or my opinion that there might be more appropriate captain material? I would be happy to discuss with him the pros and cons of handing the opposition first class propaganda material, such as "we were rubbish and can't possibly win!".
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 20:31
Day three photos.
Some of the batsmen got in playing some good shots, and then got themselves out playing bad shots.
Max Waller’s short time at the crease was entertaining and helps us save the follow-on.
He is seen here avoiding a short ball from R Clarke.
I Westwood given out lbw not playing a shot off G Hussain.
G Hussain didn’t last long (one ball) bowled J Patel.
Craig Kieswetter played some good shots, this was one of his four’s.
I wonder what Alfonso Thomas was thinking playing this shot, he was caught V Chopra bld R Clarke.
Arul Suppiah also played with ease placing this ball between the fielders for four runs.
Some of the batsmen got in playing some good shots, and then got themselves out playing bad shots.
Max Waller’s short time at the crease was entertaining and helps us save the follow-on.
He is seen here avoiding a short ball from R Clarke.
I Westwood given out lbw not playing a shot off G Hussain.
G Hussain didn’t last long (one ball) bowled J Patel.
Craig Kieswetter played some good shots, this was one of his four’s.
I wonder what Alfonso Thomas was thinking playing this shot, he was caught V Chopra bld R Clarke.
Arul Suppiah also played with ease placing this ball between the fielders for four runs.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Brother Of (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 21:03
Like Grockle has said Ronnie,Pete has a bit of credit in the bank at the moment!
I support my county and back everyone that plays,so maybe what i said about Lewis/Craig was slightly wrong although i have not seen performances from them in the past 2 seasons to feel they warrant a place in the team ahead of Pete.
We all know what Pete can do with the bat as he has proven time and time again he could change a game in the blink of an eye and im sure he will do so again this year.
His bowling as others have put has been outstanding and something that even i did not believe he had in him.
Thats the joy i suppose of being an all rounder,if one fails you always have the other to fall back on.
COACH
I support my county and back everyone that plays,so maybe what i said about Lewis/Craig was slightly wrong although i have not seen performances from them in the past 2 seasons to feel they warrant a place in the team ahead of Pete.
We all know what Pete can do with the bat as he has proven time and time again he could change a game in the blink of an eye and im sure he will do so again this year.
His bowling as others have put has been outstanding and something that even i did not believe he had in him.
Thats the joy i suppose of being an all rounder,if one fails you always have the other to fall back on.
COACH
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Brother Of (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 21:16
A quick bit of number crunching (thanks to bbc site!)
I picked out 7 all rounders in Div 1 and heres there stats so far this season.
Stokes 419 runs @ 32 11 wkts @ 27
Wright 200 runs @ 33 2 wkts @ 58
Clarke 530 runs @ 88 10 wkts @ 25
Adams 133 runs @ 12 46 wkts @ 15
Berg 335 runs @ 41 26 wkts @ 19
Chapple 264 runs @ 17 21 wkts @ 31
Trego 300 runs @ 27 34 wkts @ 27
I dont think Petes season looks out of place to any of these if im honest.
Clarke stands out with the bat and Adams with the ball but Pete is not far behind on the bowling front.
COACH
I picked out 7 all rounders in Div 1 and heres there stats so far this season.
Stokes 419 runs @ 32 11 wkts @ 27
Wright 200 runs @ 33 2 wkts @ 58
Clarke 530 runs @ 88 10 wkts @ 25
Adams 133 runs @ 12 46 wkts @ 15
Berg 335 runs @ 41 26 wkts @ 19
Chapple 264 runs @ 17 21 wkts @ 31
Trego 300 runs @ 27 34 wkts @ 27
I dont think Petes season looks out of place to any of these if im honest.
Clarke stands out with the bat and Adams with the ball but Pete is not far behind on the bowling front.
COACH
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 21:33
Well said BO. We all want Somerset to win. Whether its mesch Gregory or Peter doesn't matter as long as they win that's what matters. Tomorrow I want Peter to hit 100 and stick right down my throat. Just get the feeling it ain't gonna happen though. Chasing 350 onto wicket my money ain't on trego at this stages and I doubt yours either if your honest..warks are quite an
Impressive team and one we need to aspire to. Peter could look at woakes as someone he wants to be like. Wickets runs, England the lot. Anyway enough of this you have your view I have mIne. Tomorrow is another Somerset day.
Impressive team and one we need to aspire to. Peter could look at woakes as someone he wants to be like. Wickets runs, England the lot. Anyway enough of this you have your view I have mIne. Tomorrow is another Somerset day.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 21:50
Well currently lead is 212, if they bat until lunch at 5 an over that's a lead of 360ish with 60ish overs left.
I feel Warwickshire are very much a dont lose team so even this may not be enough for them.
I'd be surprised if they declared before lunch and in terms of saving the game we don't really want to be batting then either.
Wickets early will really help slow their scoring, we all want a win but realistically that is VERY unlikely, unless we bowl them out for 170/180 in which case we may be looking at 320ish off 65/70 and even that wouod be a huge ask v Patel on 4th afternoon.
My hope is slow progress during the morning with regular wickets and a very conservative declaration at/after lunch leaving us 55/60 overs to survive.....
I feel Warwickshire are very much a dont lose team so even this may not be enough for them.
I'd be surprised if they declared before lunch and in terms of saving the game we don't really want to be batting then either.
Wickets early will really help slow their scoring, we all want a win but realistically that is VERY unlikely, unless we bowl them out for 170/180 in which case we may be looking at 320ish off 65/70 and even that wouod be a huge ask v Patel on 4th afternoon.
My hope is slow progress during the morning with regular wickets and a very conservative declaration at/after lunch leaving us 55/60 overs to survive.....
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 22:04
You are right Ronnie - "it ain't gonna happen."
I am travelling now, so won't get any news about tomorrow's play until Tuesday / Wednesday at the earliest.
I simply hope until then that we can hold out for a draw. However, if what has been suggested by some of those who have been watching this game, that there has not been a lot of fight displayed by us so far, then I do indeed fear the worse - not only for this game, but for the remainder of the season.
Furthermore, the return of Trescothick (whenever that comes) to take hold of the reins again, will not in itself be the panacea that many expect – in my opinion.
I am travelling now, so won't get any news about tomorrow's play until Tuesday / Wednesday at the earliest.
I simply hope until then that we can hold out for a draw. However, if what has been suggested by some of those who have been watching this game, that there has not been a lot of fight displayed by us so far, then I do indeed fear the worse - not only for this game, but for the remainder of the season.
Furthermore, the return of Trescothick (whenever that comes) to take hold of the reins again, will not in itself be the panacea that many expect – in my opinion.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 22:37
CorrectCP . Well said. Hoping for one against head tomorrow though.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 00:07
I take Grockle's point about very good balls from Patel accounting for Pete and Craig M.
But the view of the W Mids radio guys was that, overall, this was probably Patel's worst bowling display of the CC season.
That, if at all valid, suggests considerable complicity in terms of him getting those figures from some of our players.
But the view of the W Mids radio guys was that, overall, this was probably Patel's worst bowling display of the CC season.
That, if at all valid, suggests considerable complicity in terms of him getting those figures from some of our players.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 00:14
I assume that Arul bowling 8 overs to Max's 4 does not bode well for Max, moving forward.
I think Grockle was possibly right to question somebody calling Arul an occasional bowler. But I think Arul himself has less faith in his bowling than he should do.
Meanwhile, Arul is a bit of a counundrum with the bat. Talented, beautiful to watch. But seems to be dismissed whilst well set a bit too often.
I think Grockle was possibly right to question somebody calling Arul an occasional bowler. But I think Arul himself has less faith in his bowling than he should do.
Meanwhile, Arul is a bit of a counundrum with the bat. Talented, beautiful to watch. But seems to be dismissed whilst well set a bit too often.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 01:09
careful Sam you'll have Ronniebro looking for you if you keep producing figures like that :-)
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 03:07
AG quote:
"But the view of the W Mids radio guys was that, overall, this was probably Patel's worst bowling display of the CC season."
Blimey.
24.5 - 4 - 75 - 7
Wish I could get those bowling figures playing badly (or anyway at all !).
Grizzzly
"But the view of the W Mids radio guys was that, overall, this was probably Patel's worst bowling display of the CC season."
Blimey.
24.5 - 4 - 75 - 7
Wish I could get those bowling figures playing badly (or anyway at all !).
Grizzzly
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Cary Castle1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 05:33
I think that I may be one of the people that has been accused of having a "selective memory"
Let me make myself quite clear on the subject of Alf T.
1. Given the current squad he would be one of the first names on my team sheet in all forms of competitions.
2.He would not be my choice of Captain or Vice Captain
3.His decision to let CK bowl against Scotland IMO was ill judged and disrespectful to both Scotland and our other front line bowlers that were playing on the day.
4.I do not support the situation where he plays in the IPL, takes the dosh, walks back into the team and is made Captain.
Perhaps this situation is reflected in the current apparent lack of team effort/spirit/moral ?
If Nick C could come to terms with "Tip and Run" (T20), then either Nick or James H would be my choice to understudy the Boss.
Comments please !!
Let me make myself quite clear on the subject of Alf T.
1. Given the current squad he would be one of the first names on my team sheet in all forms of competitions.
2.He would not be my choice of Captain or Vice Captain
3.His decision to let CK bowl against Scotland IMO was ill judged and disrespectful to both Scotland and our other front line bowlers that were playing on the day.
4.I do not support the situation where he plays in the IPL, takes the dosh, walks back into the team and is made Captain.
Perhaps this situation is reflected in the current apparent lack of team effort/spirit/moral ?
If Nick C could come to terms with "Tip and Run" (T20), then either Nick or James H would be my choice to understudy the Boss.
Comments please !!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 06:37
I think Nick Compton is far too self-absorbed to be a captain.
I think you can see that in some of his running. For example with the run out of Suppiah at Edgbaston they said that Compton didn't even seem to notice that Aul had called and was running.
This whole captaincy thing should hopefully soon become moot with Banger's return.
But, in a normal season, in which he is not compelled to bowl 9786 overs, then why not look at Pete as understudy to Marcus?
I think you can see that in some of his running. For example with the run out of Suppiah at Edgbaston they said that Compton didn't even seem to notice that Aul had called and was running.
This whole captaincy thing should hopefully soon become moot with Banger's return.
But, in a normal season, in which he is not compelled to bowl 9786 overs, then why not look at Pete as understudy to Marcus?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 08:07
AGod, you are making what appears to be a judgement not merely on Compton the cricketer, but also on Compton the man. If it applies in your mind only to his cricket you should make this clear. Many sportsmen are very different people on the pitch to off it.
I asume you do not know him personally. Even if you do I don't consider it appropriate to make that sort of comment on this forum.
I asume you do not know him personally. Even if you do I don't consider it appropriate to make that sort of comment on this forum.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 08:12
I'm talking about cricket as, last time I checked, that is the only thing that somebody mentioned he should possibly lead - a cricket team.
Compton puts me in mind of Boycott and I would not want 'fiery,' captaining a cricket team either.
Compton puts me in mind of Boycott and I would not want 'fiery,' captaining a cricket team either.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 09:00
Ah great! arguments again. The cc season must have started again.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 09:35
I doubt many care enough about T20 to argue much about it, Ronnie!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 09:47
So what do we think today? Presumably we will bat more responsibly? Do we think doing that will be enough to see Patel off and claim the draw?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 10:53
Quote:AGod
So what do we think today? Presumably we will bat more responsibly? Do we think doing that will be enough to see Patel off and claim the draw?
2 quick wicket this mornings and suddenly Warks are thinking about saving the match rather than winning it and looking at the likes of Craig, Jos & Pete with trepidation!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:05
Probably the most important days play of the 2012 CC today and two people in the press box have already made mention of the relative body language of the two sides coming out to start play.
Warwickshire men striding to the wicket to get on with it.
Both men reaching their positions before the Somerset men get to the strip.
No prompting from anyone and I have to agree with them I'm afraid.
Just a comment. There's a little more to leading a cricket team effectively than just the cricket AG and what you see on the strip is not the whole person or Steve Kirby would be the most unpopular man in the game!!
Warwickshire men striding to the wicket to get on with it.
Both men reaching their positions before the Somerset men get to the strip.
No prompting from anyone and I have to agree with them I'm afraid.
Just a comment. There's a little more to leading a cricket team effectively than just the cricket AG and what you see on the strip is not the whole person or Steve Kirby would be the most unpopular man in the game!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:17
Hussain strikes fourth over. Chopra LBW 74 for 4
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:23
75 for 5 and Ambrose is on his way back courtesy of the safe hands of MAx off the bowling of Alf - and it was the kind of catch that not many can take. Full throated and plucked out of the air by an excellent fielder. 75 for 5 and a buzz in the middle!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:24
75/5 Captain' takes Ambrose out. Could be interesting, mind you we got them 6 down for not much first time around.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:28
Thank you for clarifying the Compton point, AG.
Now it is apparent that it is only cricket of which you speak; previously it wasn't.
I like your last comment of 11:05, Grockle.
Now it is apparent that it is only cricket of which you speak; previously it wasn't.
I like your last comment of 11:05, Grockle.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:44
You know this Gemaal Hussain bloke?
Clarke out courtesy of Barrow's hands
Woakes LBW next Hussain over
He's taken 3 this morning for very little
Warwickshire 84 for 7
Interesting times as Alf bounces out Barker 87 for 8. Caught by CK.... now it's a game!!
Clarke out courtesy of Barrow's hands
Woakes LBW next Hussain over
He's taken 3 this morning for very little
Warwickshire 84 for 7
Interesting times as Alf bounces out Barker 87 for 8. Caught by CK.... now it's a game!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:46
TIMBER!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:52
Not finished yet though.... flaming Maddy is still there!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:53
22/5 this morning. This Hussein bloke looks good - never heard of him before.
What odds is BJ offering for a draw?
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What odds is BJ offering for a draw?
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 11:56
Quote:Grockle
Not finished yet though.... flaming Maddy is still there!!
Nope reminds me of the reverse fixture. I wouldn't want us to chase more than 250 that's for sure.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 12:21
This is the story of our season, the inability to finish teams off when 6-8 wickets down. It's why we are 4th and not 1st.
270 now is a big ask.
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270 now is a big ask.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:07:21:12:21:29 by Tumbles.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 12:24
A good morning or is the pitch deteriorated that badly? Time for trego what say you BO? I imagine warks are favourites but you never know.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 12:36
Sorry Tumbles
Don't you classify dismissing 7 Warwickshire batsmen for 58 in a session 'finishing a side off'?
Patel made 21 (he made a lot more last time) and I think a number of people would suggest that the Warks 'tail' is possibly the best in the CC overall.
The reason we are chasing 271 is because of the inability of the BATTING line-up to produce a total NOT the fault of the bowlers who have done a remarkable job this morning.
Don't you classify dismissing 7 Warwickshire batsmen for 58 in a session 'finishing a side off'?
Patel made 21 (he made a lot more last time) and I think a number of people would suggest that the Warks 'tail' is possibly the best in the CC overall.
The reason we are chasing 271 is because of the inability of the BATTING line-up to produce a total NOT the fault of the bowlers who have done a remarkable job this morning.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 12:40
But it's 2 for 2 after 1.2 overs.... oooeeeer
Deterioration isn't an issue I'm afraid though there is a lot outside the off for spinners. The seamers are getting movement it seems this morning if that one from Barker is anything to go by.
Not sure Suppiah had any idea where the line of that one was.
Deterioration isn't an issue I'm afraid though there is a lot outside the off for spinners. The seamers are getting movement it seems this morning if that one from Barker is anything to go by.
Not sure Suppiah had any idea where the line of that one was.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 12:49
We'll knock these off by tea time!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Angell Face (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 13:20
Now is the time for Master Hildreth to step up to the mark.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 13:22
Apart from those two wickets it's been a good morning for Somerset, what with young Smith getting a century at The Oval.
It has occured to me, by the way, that Jonathan Trott is a poor man's Nick Compton.
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It has occured to me, by the way, that Jonathan Trott is a poor man's Nick Compton.
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 13:34
Sorry! Inability to finish sides off? What are you on about - our bowlers have taken 7 for 58 (7 for 50, you could say) this morning - of which the ninth wicket made 32. Gosh, you do expect a lot sometimes! I'm glad you were never my captain, Tumbles
...and well bowled Gemaal, very pleased for you.
...and well bowled Gemaal, very pleased for you.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 14:04
Hildreth didn't step up, he wafted at a loosener and put us in a hole I'm afraid.
Craig is looking good in front of pace - it's down to us versus Patel I think.
If there was EVER a day to come of age as a Championship batsmen it is today for our keeper!!
Craig is looking good in front of pace - it's down to us versus Patel I think.
If there was EVER a day to come of age as a Championship batsmen it is today for our keeper!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 14:10
Patel on after 14 from the River 41 for 3. Probably will be camped there until the game ends one way or the other.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: smallfrysom (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 14:47
today will be a test of concentration and character , a modest total. The question has been asked,this will prove if the county's batsmen have the answer
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 14:55
Quote:SheptonPaul
Sorry! Inability to finish sides off? What are you on about - our bowlers have taken 7 for 58 (7 for 50, you could say) this morning - of which the ninth wicket made 32. Gosh, you do expect a lot sometimes! I'm glad you were never my captain, Tumbles
...and well bowled Gemaal, very pleased for you.
Warks 8 down at Edgbaston, Warks 6 down, at Taunton, Notts at Trent Bridge.. amongst many other games we've done well but not quite polished teams off. Today we did, bar the 9th wicket granted.
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 15:33
So the comment seemed out of character today when the side WAS polishing the tail off. The 9th wicket was Maddy and Patel not the 10 and 11 so that far less relevant than you suggest
Now the big question is whether, by your first statement, Warwickshire are top because they've got away with having their tail not polished off or because they have a bloody good tail who are difficult to polish seeing as two of your four examples of us "failing" are to that same team. (The same team we comprehensively cleaned in this game so your first innings 6 for??)
They don't seem to have too many rabbits and we aren't the only side that have struggled to dismiss them this year.
Hmmm a side winning the Championship because of the ability of their tail (now there will be some interesting analysis for AG should this come to pass).
I'd still put forward that our problems in the Championship this year have not been in the bowling department despite the massive effect of injuries on its personnel.
It hasn't been that we haven't put other sides away, it is that we have not punished them with our own batting line-up anything like effectively enough. Surely the batting has let down the bowling far more times than the bowling has let down the batting.
Now the big question is whether, by your first statement, Warwickshire are top because they've got away with having their tail not polished off or because they have a bloody good tail who are difficult to polish seeing as two of your four examples of us "failing" are to that same team. (The same team we comprehensively cleaned in this game so your first innings 6 for??)
They don't seem to have too many rabbits and we aren't the only side that have struggled to dismiss them this year.
Hmmm a side winning the Championship because of the ability of their tail (now there will be some interesting analysis for AG should this come to pass).
I'd still put forward that our problems in the Championship this year have not been in the bowling department despite the massive effect of injuries on its personnel.
It hasn't been that we haven't put other sides away, it is that we have not punished them with our own batting line-up anything like effectively enough. Surely the batting has let down the bowling far more times than the bowling has let down the batting.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 15:44
I do feel our 'much vaunted batters' have lost some of their 'vaunt' recently and the bowlers have done well against the odds.
Pleased to see that we may have a new seamer available for regular selection! Gemaal deserves a break or two now. He has suffered from injury and loss of confidence. Hope this fifer will boost his self-belief and lead to him getting many wickets.
Last evening I (and several other posters seemingly) would not have us down to be just 129 short of victory with 7 wickets in hand! For a side with poor leadership and dressingroom dissent this is a pretty good effort IMO.
Pleased to see that we may have a new seamer available for regular selection! Gemaal deserves a break or two now. He has suffered from injury and loss of confidence. Hope this fifer will boost his self-belief and lead to him getting many wickets.
Last evening I (and several other posters seemingly) would not have us down to be just 129 short of victory with 7 wickets in hand! For a side with poor leadership and dressingroom dissent this is a pretty good effort IMO.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 15:47
True, SJB. But what about their body language?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 15:53
I've been out of circulation for a few days and sat down this morning and read the whole 9 pages of thread.If we could moan like this when we are only 20 odd points behind the leader of the championship, have the 4th person in the batting averages and the leader of the bowling averages I hate to think what we would do if we were Durham fans- you should hear some of the conversations up here. Anyway by the time I finished reading the thread we had bowled Warwick out and had a chance of winning. It might not happen- Warwick are a good side- but the 3rd innings curse of AGod seems to have opened up the possibility.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 16:16
Very Old Testament indeed, GM! "curse of AGod" indeed. But if it works I suppose it's down to "mysterious ways".
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 16:24
Urgent Note to Mr Bird and Mr Kerslake
Compton has just scored his 6000th first class run. If he reaches 65 today he will have scored 1000 of them in this championship season.
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Compton has just scored his 6000th first class run. If he reaches 65 today he will have scored 1000 of them in this championship season.
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 16:46
It's not only the curse of AGod Lol you seem to have hexed the non pareil that is NRD Compton
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 16:50
Pretty astonished to log on to see the Warks collapse today. I'll take 124 all out any day ! And good for Gemaal for showing a lot of doubters (me included)that he can deliver the goods.
Wonnder if we could actually win this ?.........(just wondering !).............
Grizzzly
Wonnder if we could actually win this ?.........(just wondering !).............
Grizzzly
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Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 17:17
It seems very quiet, is that because everyone's nervous or are there not many people there?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 17:30
I suppose one of the great aspects of County cricket is that among the more mundane times, the regulars can be rewarded with 5* performances such as that by Kieswetter, who has been getting some stick recently.
I reckon that there will be many Grockles feeling really thrilled about today and excited for Craig, with the added bonus that summer seems to have arrived and it's the cider festival at Wetherspoons!
I reckon that there will be many Grockles feeling really thrilled about today and excited for Craig, with the added bonus that summer seems to have arrived and it's the cider festival at Wetherspoons!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 17:33
Superb innings by Craig.
Time to go & hide behind the sofa now.
Grizzzly
Time to go & hide behind the sofa now.
Grizzzly
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Posted by: SillyMidOn (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 17:36
Magnificent from Craig.
Bravo that man.
Bravo that man.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 17:42
Deep breaths Roy, Max will bring us home.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 17:47
It is now VERY QUIET
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 17:55
It's far worse at home and nothing get's done!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 17:59
Squeaky bum time!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:00
*takes medication*
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:00
No ball coming up!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:04
It sounds from the commentary as if Kieswetter played superbly. It was not (quite) his career best; but I doubt that he has ever played a better innings, given the context of the match.
Well done to all - not least to PT and GH for seeing us home.
Isn't cricket a great game.
I'm just off to invade my garden (the pitch being too far away).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:07:21:18:05:27 by Wickham.
Well done to all - not least to PT and GH for seeing us home.
Isn't cricket a great game.
I'm just off to invade my garden (the pitch being too far away).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:07:21:18:05:27 by Wickham.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:05
What a superb match! What a superb win!
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:05
UNBELIEVEABLE !!!
Need to go & get the heart pills !!!
Amazing result !!!!!
Grizzzly
Need to go & get the heart pills !!!
Amazing result !!!!!
Grizzzly
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:05
Don't panic, Treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegggggoooooooooo
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:06
Clarence won't believe what he has missed !
Quite astonishing.
Grizzzly
Quite astonishing.
Grizzzly
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:06
Most important boundary of Somerset`s season. And who hit it?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:08
Never in doubt!
Well played to Craig especially and Pete for keeping cool at the end.
Well played to Craig especially and Pete for keeping cool at the end.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:08
I think we should thank Alf for his successful reverse psychology.
Grizzzly
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:09
What a match!!! Warks just don't know when they are beaten!
Very done to all esp. Craig, Nick and Pete for getting us over the line.
Very done to all esp. Craig, Nick and Pete for getting us over the line.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:10
I can see the pink elephants 
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:11
Amazing.... and don't forget if Max hadn't got us over the follow on line it wouldn't have happened. Well played Craig and Nick and PT came to the party when it mattered.
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Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:11
Well done to Gemaal for surviving five balls in the penultimate over, as well as for his five wickets. So pleased for him.
Cricket (real cricket) is indeed a wonderful game, Wickham.
Cricket (real cricket) is indeed a wonderful game, Wickham.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:18
Who cares that South Africa are currently 5000/2!
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: rodders (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:19
Such are the joys / heartaches of supporting Somerset !
We snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
70 years old and will die still totally confused by my county.
Mind you - still aint won nothing for quite a while !!!
We snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
70 years old and will die still totally confused by my county.
Mind you - still aint won nothing for quite a while !!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:23
A good win, well done Somerset.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:24
What a game of cricket!!
What guts did Gemaal have to leave the ball and ask them to make him hit it
How cool was Peter Trego
How near to death was Roy Kerslake
How many cats have been thrown among Championship pigeons by this result
How good was that Kieswetter innings - who can't create an innings then
How much of a sod was Barker to get so close to taking it away from us.
What guts did Gemaal have to leave the ball and ask them to make him hit it
How cool was Peter Trego
How near to death was Roy Kerslake
How many cats have been thrown among Championship pigeons by this result
How good was that Kieswetter innings - who can't create an innings then
How much of a sod was Barker to get so close to taking it away from us.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:31
Magnificent FIGHTING win from a team with no fighting spirit!
Hang your heads in shame you doubters!!!
No disrespect to anything he's acheived up to now, but is today the day Craig Kieswetter truly came of age as a first class, First-class cricketer?
Hang your heads in shame you doubters!!!
No disrespect to anything he's acheived up to now, but is today the day Craig Kieswetter truly came of age as a first class, First-class cricketer?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Angell Face (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:33
Could that be the confidence booster that Gemaal needs? How did he look in Warks second innings? He got four lbw's which suggests he bowled straight some of the time.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:38
Thank the batsmen for doing their jobs by all means but let's keep the bowlers in mind - under massive pressure they provided the platform for this this morning.
I'd be thanking Gemaal for this before anyone else if the CK innings hadn't been such a massive part of this for the man and the county.
The batsmen nearly didn't do this and we need to keep that in mind. When Craig went so did the composure at one end until Max and Gemaal came to the crease. Pete waited but had to leave 10 and 11 to give him the opportunity to win it.
Jos, Craig M, Alf MUST get this waft outside the off stump out of their repertoire.
Nick got a good one that spat. Craig was very unlucky to find the fielder. The rest? Well they nearly made it impossible to win this.
But win it we did and we need to take that achievement in context. With injuries up our jacksie from the middle of April, we have not lost a CC game with a bunch of youngsters and they have kept us in the Championship through to when we start to see our expected first team players returning.
This is an awesome achievement for a significant group of Academy boys and whatever happens from this day on don't forget that. We are here in no smal part because of the Overton's, George Dockrell, Alex Barrow, Craig Meschede and Lewis Gregory. They took up the challenge when asked to. They gave the more experienced players something to play around and held up their inexperienced ends when asked to.
That's my first response to those who may complain if we don't get a trophy this season that this has been another failure as a season. It isn't yet. There is now more to play for but even if we come up short the achievements of our youngest squad players cannot be marginalised in 2012
Please don't tell me we've achieved nothing in 2012 if there is no silverware. We have players with possibly a decade in front of them who will bring you those things sooner than probably expected because of the issues this year. If you have to be, be grateful for small mercies.
But only if you have to be.... we still have 2 to go for before that scenario.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:07:21:18:45:06 by Grockle.
I'd be thanking Gemaal for this before anyone else if the CK innings hadn't been such a massive part of this for the man and the county.
The batsmen nearly didn't do this and we need to keep that in mind. When Craig went so did the composure at one end until Max and Gemaal came to the crease. Pete waited but had to leave 10 and 11 to give him the opportunity to win it.
Jos, Craig M, Alf MUST get this waft outside the off stump out of their repertoire.
Nick got a good one that spat. Craig was very unlucky to find the fielder. The rest? Well they nearly made it impossible to win this.
But win it we did and we need to take that achievement in context. With injuries up our jacksie from the middle of April, we have not lost a CC game with a bunch of youngsters and they have kept us in the Championship through to when we start to see our expected first team players returning.
This is an awesome achievement for a significant group of Academy boys and whatever happens from this day on don't forget that. We are here in no smal part because of the Overton's, George Dockrell, Alex Barrow, Craig Meschede and Lewis Gregory. They took up the challenge when asked to. They gave the more experienced players something to play around and held up their inexperienced ends when asked to.
That's my first response to those who may complain if we don't get a trophy this season that this has been another failure as a season. It isn't yet. There is now more to play for but even if we come up short the achievements of our youngest squad players cannot be marginalised in 2012
Please don't tell me we've achieved nothing in 2012 if there is no silverware. We have players with possibly a decade in front of them who will bring you those things sooner than probably expected because of the issues this year. If you have to be, be grateful for small mercies.
But only if you have to be.... we still have 2 to go for before that scenario.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:07:21:18:45:06 by Grockle.
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Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:51
I've been out of circulation all day and didn't know result until 6.30pm!!
AMAZING result. I'm happy to say Hussain has done marvelleously, and CK has at last proved he has the stature and determination to run Prior close. In this match his keeping has been excellent and his batting has fulfilled all that earlier promise! I am happy to enjoy some delicious humble pie for supper!!
ALF and the team must have been reading GROCKLE!!
Obviously same eleven for next CC match!!!
AMAZING result. I'm happy to say Hussain has done marvelleously, and CK has at last proved he has the stature and determination to run Prior close. In this match his keeping has been excellent and his batting has fulfilled all that earlier promise! I am happy to enjoy some delicious humble pie for supper!!
ALF and the team must have been reading GROCKLE!!
Obviously same eleven for next CC match!!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: litlekeithy (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:51
I aged a few years listening to the end. But they done it, which will only give the team more confidence going into future finals and other important games.
Well done Keiswetter, great innings given the context, and Hussain, can those who were there give their thoughts on his bowling?
See the difference a won game makes? Third in the CC with a depleted side that can only get better when players return to fitness, and playing most of the rest of our matches at fortress Taunton.
Well done Keiswetter, great innings given the context, and Hussain, can those who were there give their thoughts on his bowling?
See the difference a won game makes? Third in the CC with a depleted side that can only get better when players return to fitness, and playing most of the rest of our matches at fortress Taunton.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Naxxar (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:54
I last posted on this forum back in April after we managed to pluck defeat from the jaws of victory at Edgbaston. I was highy critical of us then for not being able to pass the finishing line when it was in sight.
Today, in the spirit of fairness, I must congratulate Somerset for doing just the opposite in the return fixture.
Funny how sport..as with life itself..has a habit of often evening itself out.
Today was a fantastic win by our team..at the end of a totally brilliant day of Championship cricket.
It was all started by Max yesterday. His vital runs helped us avoid the follow on and made today possible.
Today GH really came of age as a Somerset player. Well Done! I hope you will now have the confidence to go on and develop more as the bowler we all hoped you would be when you joined us.
To Craig K..congratulations on such a great innings. Your exciting strokeplay was also balanced with a meticulous defence and an excellent temperament. I've never seen you bat better.
Plaudits too for Nick Compton for once again doing what he has done so well all season, glueing our stroke players together. And to Peter Trego, having a rough time of it of late, but for keeping his head and getting us over the line.
I truely believe we would have lost that match today back in April. That we didn't, shows how the side has grown and is slowly becoming mentally tougher. We may or may not win a trophy this season..but it would be nice to think today's achievement has helped lay the foundation for a success not too far down the line.
Well Done Somerset. Even the sun shone all day!
Today, in the spirit of fairness, I must congratulate Somerset for doing just the opposite in the return fixture.
Funny how sport..as with life itself..has a habit of often evening itself out.
Today was a fantastic win by our team..at the end of a totally brilliant day of Championship cricket.
It was all started by Max yesterday. His vital runs helped us avoid the follow on and made today possible.
Today GH really came of age as a Somerset player. Well Done! I hope you will now have the confidence to go on and develop more as the bowler we all hoped you would be when you joined us.
To Craig K..congratulations on such a great innings. Your exciting strokeplay was also balanced with a meticulous defence and an excellent temperament. I've never seen you bat better.
Plaudits too for Nick Compton for once again doing what he has done so well all season, glueing our stroke players together. And to Peter Trego, having a rough time of it of late, but for keeping his head and getting us over the line.
I truely believe we would have lost that match today back in April. That we didn't, shows how the side has grown and is slowly becoming mentally tougher. We may or may not win a trophy this season..but it would be nice to think today's achievement has helped lay the foundation for a success not too far down the line.
Well Done Somerset. Even the sun shone all day!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 18:56
Four home matches this season: one ruined by rain and the others all won.
Four home matches to go: I am old enough to dare to dream.
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Four home matches to go: I am old enough to dare to dream.
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Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 19:05
Well done guys and commentary team for the composure. It saved me from mowing the lawn, as I couldn't leave the computer!
Exciting maybe, but Roy's not the only one!
Exciting maybe, but Roy's not the only one!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: brt1919 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 19:24
We're just a 1 man team, take out Compton & we'd be relagTed by now. CK can't build an innings, just a 1 day player, PT's bottle has gone, GH can't bowl for toffee, dressing room turmoil, body language of losers, good at throwing it away when it's nearly in the bag.
What? We won?
I started typing a reply on here this morning at 15-3 to enquire whether the game was lost when Warks batted first, but just decided to wait until the game was actually lost before asking the question
Can't wait til Tuesday when we book a place at T20 finals day
What? We won?
I started typing a reply on here this morning at 15-3 to enquire whether the game was lost when Warks batted first, but just decided to wait until the game was actually lost before asking the question
Can't wait til Tuesday when we book a place at T20 finals day
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 19:28
What in the name of all things scrumpy happened!?
Did Hussain bowl really well?
In the context of the final three innings ofvthis game, looks a genius innnings by Craig K!?
Then we nearly bottled it? Then Pete got us over the line.
I endured a tidal wave of ennui at the Oval and am gutted I did not go to Taunton instead...
Did Hussain bowl really well?
In the context of the final three innings ofvthis game, looks a genius innnings by Craig K!?
Then we nearly bottled it? Then Pete got us over the line.
I endured a tidal wave of ennui at the Oval and am gutted I did not go to Taunton instead...
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 20:05
Gemaal bowled straight and a consistent line. Alf got the smell of fear in his nostrils and did what he has taken time to do this year but what he is so good at.
Then Nick held the reins and Craig let fly in a controlled but lethal manner. The way he went to 100 and 150 was excellent. I could have been even better except for finding Woakes. Top of the bowling averages, top of the total sixes in the CC. The boy is coming along.
At no point was this certain but at no point were we out of it. It ebbed and flowed all day and we were damn lucky it came our way after nearly gifting it.
But here we are with Banger trotting on and off the pitch and looking ready in the nets at lunch...
For a night all is well in the camp of glorious Somerset.
Then Nick held the reins and Craig let fly in a controlled but lethal manner. The way he went to 100 and 150 was excellent. I could have been even better except for finding Woakes. Top of the bowling averages, top of the total sixes in the CC. The boy is coming along.
At no point was this certain but at no point were we out of it. It ebbed and flowed all day and we were damn lucky it came our way after nearly gifting it.
But here we are with Banger trotting on and off the pitch and looking ready in the nets at lunch...
For a night all is well in the camp of glorious Somerset.
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Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 20:44
Day four photos.
Come on something is not right county cricket isn’t supposed to be this exciting. (Where are my heart tablets)?
The crowd watching Marcus T in the nets, word at the ground he is playing tomorrow.
But today he is down for bringing on the drinks, but why has Jos got his head under his arm?
James Hildreth ct T Ambrose bld C Woakes, it look like after coming off the bat or glove the ball brushed his helmet.
Craig Kieswetter hit seven sixes this one landing on the balcony of one of the flats and it was down to ------
---- E Evans to retrieve it by leaning over the back of the stand to reach it.
Arul Suppiah played across the line and was bowled by K Barker.
The link to my Photos on Photobucket - [s1152.photobucket.com]
Come on something is not right county cricket isn’t supposed to be this exciting. (Where are my heart tablets)?
The crowd watching Marcus T in the nets, word at the ground he is playing tomorrow.
But today he is down for bringing on the drinks, but why has Jos got his head under his arm?
James Hildreth ct T Ambrose bld C Woakes, it look like after coming off the bat or glove the ball brushed his helmet.
Craig Kieswetter hit seven sixes this one landing on the balcony of one of the flats and it was down to ------
---- E Evans to retrieve it by leaning over the back of the stand to reach it.
Arul Suppiah played across the line and was bowled by K Barker.
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Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 20:48
That Suppiah wicket was a real impressive demolition Mike.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 21:08
Best day i have ever seen at HQ, simple as that.
We did not have a prayer at the start of play, not a sniff.
Then after a glorious day in the sun at 6.10pm on 4th day we sneak home by 1 run.
At 15-3 we were gone, at 259-5 we were home and hgosed, at 263-8 we were back in trouble and at 269-9 with Hussain due to face 5 balls from Barker we were all in a right state.
One day games have there place but nothing can beat today for a proper finish to a proper game of cricket.
Huge character from many, Compp was outstanding, he and Max got us past follow on in 1st dig, Compo today was equally as good as Craig in totally different way, at 0-1 he dug in and supported Craig brilliantly.
Thomas in both innings and Hussain today bowled excellently, Warwicks looked scared stiff this morning and we pushed it home superbly.
I am now confident we dont need to look down the table. We ARE in the mix. We have the best batsmen in the country due back for last 6 games, 4 of which are at home of which we've won all 3 games, 1 rained off) We have Kirby due back now, and "hopefully" an overseas spinner at some point!
We have Notts left to play and with a bit of luck and a fair wind no reason we can't stay in the hunt up to September.
We did not have a prayer at the start of play, not a sniff.
Then after a glorious day in the sun at 6.10pm on 4th day we sneak home by 1 run.
At 15-3 we were gone, at 259-5 we were home and hgosed, at 263-8 we were back in trouble and at 269-9 with Hussain due to face 5 balls from Barker we were all in a right state.
One day games have there place but nothing can beat today for a proper finish to a proper game of cricket.
Huge character from many, Compp was outstanding, he and Max got us past follow on in 1st dig, Compo today was equally as good as Craig in totally different way, at 0-1 he dug in and supported Craig brilliantly.
Thomas in both innings and Hussain today bowled excellently, Warwicks looked scared stiff this morning and we pushed it home superbly.
I am now confident we dont need to look down the table. We ARE in the mix. We have the best batsmen in the country due back for last 6 games, 4 of which are at home of which we've won all 3 games, 1 rained off) We have Kirby due back now, and "hopefully" an overseas spinner at some point!
We have Notts left to play and with a bit of luck and a fair wind no reason we can't stay in the hunt up to September.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 21:16
Quote:AGod
I endured a tidal wave of ennui at the Oval ....
"a tidal wave of ennui" - that's a nice phrase. Is it a posh way of describing the Severn Bore
Not that I could ever be bored by watching Amla...
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 21:38
Alas poor ennui. I knew him Horatio
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 21:40
I know we're all very happy and excited tonight, but can we all please spare a thought for poor Averageside....his keyboard must have been glowing as he merrily tapped out our obituary...I hate to see someone upset.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 21:45
He'll find something, he'll post, we'll smile and sadly shake our heads and then on our merry way we will all go.
Ain't following cricket a hoot?
Ain't following cricket a hoot?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 21:50
Compassion is your middle name, BJ. And I too felt very sorry for YOU today, following PT's abject failure to score a century.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 22:32
When I went out at about 2:00pm this afternoon, I felt surely Somerset had no chance of arguably doing Middlesex a favour by winning this match. Therefore, it came as a pleasant surprise when I returned home to find Somerset had won, although I wasn't so happy when I realised it means Somerset overtake Middlesex in the table. However, it is still quite a good result for Middlesex, as it opens up the title race, which wouldn't have happened had Warwickshire won.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 22:49
Total and utter saddos. End of.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Roger Sweet (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 22:59
At last my heart beat and blood pressure have returned to normal levels.
What an amazing day - the best that I have ever watched live - and the best possible advert for CC Division 1 4 day cricket.
Hopefully, we shall do it more easily the next time we get ourselves into such a good position. Jos's dismissal was the turning point and lead to so much pressure building. Even Peter was incredibly nervous playing out a maiden over from Patel with only 2 needed to win which included a number of false strokes and a leading edge which did not go to hand!!!
The only blemish on such a brilliant day was when I asked politely a spectator in the Tres stand to desist from using his mobile phone during play. In return, I received the most amazing and vicious rant in which the most amusing accusation levelled at me was being called a right-wing fascist!!! As he spoke with a Brummie accent and had his card beribboned with a "Wolves" logo, I naturally thought that he was a Warwickshire member. But I was wrong - he was one of ours - and I am ashamed that he is.
Hopefully the Club, our stewards and most importantly us members can do much more to stamp out this practice which does spoil our enjoyment of the cricket.
Do others think this is worthy of a separate thread?
From the "grandson of Mussollini"!!!
What an amazing day - the best that I have ever watched live - and the best possible advert for CC Division 1 4 day cricket.
Hopefully, we shall do it more easily the next time we get ourselves into such a good position. Jos's dismissal was the turning point and lead to so much pressure building. Even Peter was incredibly nervous playing out a maiden over from Patel with only 2 needed to win which included a number of false strokes and a leading edge which did not go to hand!!!
The only blemish on such a brilliant day was when I asked politely a spectator in the Tres stand to desist from using his mobile phone during play. In return, I received the most amazing and vicious rant in which the most amusing accusation levelled at me was being called a right-wing fascist!!! As he spoke with a Brummie accent and had his card beribboned with a "Wolves" logo, I naturally thought that he was a Warwickshire member. But I was wrong - he was one of ours - and I am ashamed that he is.
Hopefully the Club, our stewards and most importantly us members can do much more to stamp out this practice which does spoil our enjoyment of the cricket.
Do others think this is worthy of a separate thread?
From the "grandson of Mussollini"!!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 23:24
Went out when we were 40-3 - I was hopeful of saving it but far from confident...well well well!
Great win, well played the whole team, huge credit to you all. Relegation - pah!
Great win, well played the whole team, huge credit to you all. Relegation - pah!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 23:37
Quote:Loyal of Lhasa.Quote:AGod
I endured a tidal wave of ennui at the Oval ....
"a tidal wave of ennui" - that's a nice phrase. Is it a posh way of describing the Severn Bore
Not that I could ever be bored by watching Amla...
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 23:40
Quote:Loyal of Lhasa.Quote:AGod
I endured a tidal wave of ennui at the Oval ....
"a tidal wave of ennui" - that's a nice phrase. Is it a posh way of describing the Severn Bore
Not that I could ever be bored by watching Amla...
He's certainly an attractive player. But conditions were so unchallenging for the batsmen that these were batting performances to be respected rather than savoured.
It's a good job this match is limited to five days, otherwise England might face about three weeks in the field..
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 23:50
Not sure if this has been mentioned but leaders Warks and second placed Notts have yet to meet each other this season.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 21/07/2012 23:57
Yes, Pete's failure to score a century was a huge disappointment to me, I very nearly kicked my dog, but I haven't got one...so I didn't.
If this terrible run of form of his continues and he can't do the business for us any longer then we must surely let him take a step down the ladder....somewhere like Middlesex on loan?
If this terrible run of form of his continues and he can't do the business for us any longer then we must surely let him take a step down the ladder....somewhere like Middlesex on loan?
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: smallfrysom (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 03:23
answered the question when it was asked, well one or two did, Well done Craig.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grizzers (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 05:19
Praise indeed !
Grizzzly
Grizzzly
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Cary Castle1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 05:53
Well done team, what a result !!!
One of the best days that I have spent at Taunton in years.
Now lets carry on and win something !!!
Particular congratulations due to CK,GH,NC,MW,AT
Who says CC is boring, what superb, but nail biting entertainment
Well done lads
One of the best days that I have spent at Taunton in years.
Now lets carry on and win something !!!
Particular congratulations due to CK,GH,NC,MW,AT
Who says CC is boring, what superb, but nail biting entertainment
Well done lads
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 07:04
Quote:Roger Sweet
At last my heart beat and blood pressure have returned to normal levels.
What an amazing day - the best that I have ever watched live - and the best possible advert for CC Division 1 4 day cricket.
Hopefully, we shall do it more easily the next time we get ourselves into such a good position. Jos's dismissal was the turning point and lead to so much pressure building. Even Peter was incredibly nervous playing out a maiden over from Patel with only 2 needed to win which included a number of false strokes and a leading edge which did not go to hand!!!
The only blemish on such a brilliant day was when I asked politely a spectator in the Tres stand to desist from using his mobile phone during play. In return, I received the most amazing and vicious rant in which the most amusing accusation levelled at me was being called a right-wing fascist!!! As he spoke with a Brummie accent and had his card beribboned with a "Wolves" logo, I naturally thought that he was a Warwickshire member. But I was wrong - he was one of ours - and I am ashamed that he is.
Hopefully the Club, our stewards and most importantly us members can do much more to stamp out this practice which does spoil our enjoyment of the cricket.
Do others think this is worthy of a separate thread?
From the "grandson of Mussollini"!!!
Any unreasonable behaviour cannot be tolerated Roger, so in my opinion, definitely worthy of a separate thread and it also keeps this one for this magnificent day on the pitch.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 07:15
Well maybe there should be a stand or stands where people are expressly not allowed to use them?
I freely confess that, had I been at Taunton yesterday, I'm pretty sure I'd have felt the need to ring my dad to let him know about the remarkable fight back as it was going down.
I freely confess that, had I been at Taunton yesterday, I'm pretty sure I'd have felt the need to ring my dad to let him know about the remarkable fight back as it was going down.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 07:57
Th innings from Craig we have all been waiting for and him too I expect. Must have been great to see. Special mention to gemmal not only for his bowling but for keeping his nerve and those 5 balls out. Hopefully he can kick on here and prove why we signed him. Right in the mix now and as AG says notts and warks have still to play twice.
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Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 08:00
Quote:averageside
answered the question when it was asked, well one or two did, Well done Craig.
Poor old averageside - dragging himself towards those little words "well done".
Humility is a thing I thrive on. Being humble means saying you don't have all the answers is so invigorating!! Now feeling so saintly I can continue to have a few more 'IMOs' which are completely wrong, but who cares!
Despite one or two failures the whole team can take credit for an amazing turn-around. The only thing that I will claim credit for, and meaning it - was that midway through the second day having lost so much time, I expounded the theory that the only we could possibly win was to declare 149 behind and dare Warwickshire to set us a target! Almost correct, but of course we didn't declare and they didn't voluntarily set us a target!
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Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 11:22
Cricinfo view on yesterday's play, even the flats get a mention. [www.espncricinfo.com]
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 12:07
A pity Mr Tennant had to bring up the South Africa thing. I do think it is about time to put that to rest.
Also I'm not sure that his figures for Compton's season agree with those of LoL, although I haven't rechecked.
Who to believe? No contest.
Also I'm not sure that his figures for Compton's season agree with those of LoL, although I haven't rechecked.
Who to believe? No contest.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 20:15
Fantastic victory. Well done all round. CK obviously, but also Gemaal, who has surely justified Brian Rose's signing of him in one performance. Not least for blocking out those five balls!
Incidentally, I gave up on us winning when we were so far behind on first innings, then returned to Cricinfo to find that we had bowled them out for next to nothing and were already 20-3 in the second innings, despaired again, then came back home to find we needed 12 runs with 5 wickets left, rejoiced, had to go out again, then came back to find we had sneaked it by one wicket. Incredible.
Incidentally, I gave up on us winning when we were so far behind on first innings, then returned to Cricinfo to find that we had bowled them out for next to nothing and were already 20-3 in the second innings, despaired again, then came back home to find we needed 12 runs with 5 wickets left, rejoiced, had to go out again, then came back to find we had sneaked it by one wicket. Incredible.
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Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 15:33
Quote:Chinaman
Incidentally, I gave up on us winning when we were so far behind on first innings, then returned to Cricinfo to find that we had bowled them out for next to nothing and were already 20-3 in the second innings, despaired again, then came back home to find we needed 12 runs with 5 wickets left, rejoiced, had to go out again, then came back to find we had sneaked it by one wicket. Incredible.
I am wondering whether it would be possible to sue SCCC succesfully for inducing bipolarity among the more sensitive of their supporters.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 16:14
It still mystifies me why a lot of people, including ALF, felt that Warwick getting a big first innings score, meant we could only play for a draw! Unless Alf is the master of kidology and threw Warwick players into a wobbly! It was pretty obvious that if we got within 149, we could get them to set us a target! What I didn't anticipate was Warwick collapsing so badly in their second innings, and Craig K playing the innings of his life!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 16:49
Let's face it, we'd be gutted if we were 222 runs ahead with 7 wickets in hand on the final day of the match and ended up losing.
That could and perhaps should be the sort of loss that makes Warks' players think;
"Does that sort of thing happen to sides that win the CC?"
That could and perhaps should be the sort of loss that makes Warks' players think;
"Does that sort of thing happen to sides that win the CC?"
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 22:08
Well of course it does as most 'prophets' on here have been predicting Warwickshire to walk the CC1 this year since about the end of April.
Funny old game cricket - tends to bite your bum the moment you show any level of 'forgone conclusionism'
Funny old game cricket - tends to bite your bum the moment you show any level of 'forgone conclusionism'
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 22:52
Huge game at Lancs next week, tends to be result pitch and in Lancs position guess they'll be keen on a result.
With Tres back (hopefully) and Kirby, if we can get an overseas spinner sorted too then we'll be in with decent shout in last 6 games, 4 of last 5 at home where we have in effect a 100% record so far...
With Tres back (hopefully) and Kirby, if we can get an overseas spinner sorted too then we'll be in with decent shout in last 6 games, 4 of last 5 at home where we have in effect a 100% record so far...
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 24/07/2012 09:42
According to the forecasts it is still wet up north!!!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 24/07/2012 12:22
Quote:Bobstan
A pity Mr Tennant had to bring up the South Africa thing. I do think it is about time to put that to rest.
Also I'm not sure that his figures for Compton's season agree with those of LoL, although I haven't rechecked.
Who to believe? No contest.
Have to agree with you Bobstan... not sure why it came up in this article - seemd to have no relevance at all to the subject matter. He wasn't talking about England or anything.
I shall bring it up with the great man this afternoon.....
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 25/07/2012 15:47
Fear not OB, summer (or at least a slightly cooler version of it) has reached the shores of the Mersey and no rain has been seen for over a week. There may be the odd shower around at the end of the week, which may or may not get south Liverpool, but the Aigburth ground drains well (straight into the river I should think) and anyway Liverpool gets far less rain than its Mancunian relative.
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 25/07/2012 17:28
I asked him about the SA reference seemed to have something to do with their contrasting styles based on where they learned their basics
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 25/07/2012 18:06
That is, I suppose, plausible, Grock. As a reason for mentioning it, I mean.
Still rather he didn't emphasise it if not strictly necessary!
Still rather he didn't emphasise it if not strictly necessary!
Re: Eleven good men and true - Warks CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 25/07/2012 20:44
very true sir - did mention that to him as well.
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