That darned AGM - Answers? Maybe
All the gen please Andy
By Grockle et al
February 20 2013
The road to the new season tends to start with the meeting that puts the last season to bed - the Annual General Meeting. This year it is even more like that as the AGM was put back after January storms. Many thanks to the people who contributed to this report of events, it is the one part of working in Oman that is affected. How I miss that wander into the pavilion on some miserable winter's evening
So, what did we find out that we didn't already know?
Bristol Rob started us off
Attendance I'd estimate approx 300,a good turnout again.
New sponsors Tribute
New beers Tribute plus others from St Austell Brewery. Everybody attending were treated to a free pint.
Marcus is fit.
Vic said keeper issue will be sorted,so no problems there.
Old scoreboard being refurbished so no problems there.
Old Pavilion work mainly taking place winter of 2014/15
WSM Fan added
AGM- Very well attended. Top table included Hurry, Nash, Lavender and Marks, no Tres (assume getting ready for Eng/NZ sky gig tonight)
Nash spoke very well, nice presentation, lots of slides indicating how well run we are, and how well we do in relation to other counties in numerous aspects of cricketing matters. We were shown plans of the new stand to replace the Old Pavillion and Somerset stand, think they mentioned aim is for 2014/15.
Hurry again spoke excellently I thought, answered Jos/Craig question in only way he could, "when Dave, Jos and Craig are all back they will sit down with each individually and collectively and come up with a solution" (we were never going to get any more than that)
Tres is fit and fully expected to take full part in the season.
The old scoreboard is being bought back to life so we're promised to fully operational main scoreboards for the season. The PA system being overhauled too.
Issues of parking, ground entry are being looked into.
Fast bowlers being sent to SA shortly for a week pre season as an area identified to try and avoid injury issues of last week, they will be under supervision of Dave Nosworthy whilst there.
Mike added
Jos has one year left on his contract and Craig K has two.
The Taunton £1m loan is over fifteen years at 4% interest.
The ECB £1M is a grant not to be re-payed but is taxable.
The T20 next year will be seven home matches spread over one every two weeks.
The two scoreboard issue is because of what supporters told the club, Andy Nash said we do listen.
Membership last year was nearly 7000 last season and this year so far is about the same as the same time last year.
SCCC has the 4th highest players cost, the 3rd highest subscription income and the 3rd highest gate income.
Tops added
The situation with regard to Petersen batting in the middle order was mentioned in regard to limited over cricket. Andy Hurry was concerned that we struggled on low slow wickets and wanted an experienced player who can rotate the strike if we lose early wickets.
And finally from Sloop John B
Further on the ground development - Andy Nash at one point mentioned, almost as a by-the-way, that after the final phase of the ground development had been completed it would take no more than another £100,000 to complete any other works needed to gain International Cricket status.
Funds for the development 'in the bank' consisted of the grant from ECB (which has arrived) plus about £250,00 other funds. As said elsewhere the TDBC loan is of a £1m at 4% and I gained the impression the loan period was possibly open-ended! What was not said wa how much the development was likely to cost on present designs!
Alex Tetley, treasurer who is standing down this year stated that the level of debt the club was carrying was relatively low (to other clubs) and is therefore easily manageable.
Just had a quick look at the new SCCC website and at the foot it is stated that Tribute is the club Title partner and Thatchers is listed as the Cider partner.
Thanks one and all. This is much appreciated by all. The discussion about the points here and others is taking place on the thread attached to this. Have your say.
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Should any contributors to this site be able to so attend, then I am sure that many of us would be most interested to read a brief summary or report of what took place.
I am sure that the powers - to - be at the club have much about which to inform us.

Many thanks to BristolRob for saving me from a quite night on WEDNESDAY!!!
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Quote:SheptonPaul
I remain to be convinced there IS a Buttler/Kieswetter situation. Sure, there was half a sentence in reply to a question in an interview, to the effect that he MAY have to think about it at some point - and I agree we MAY have a situation during this season or later - but not really yet...
I think you are almost certainly right, SP. This is far more likely to become a "situation" if people (particularly those of us who actually know very little about the case) keep talking about a potential crisis, instead of letting those closest to things work out the best way forward.
It reminds me of my days of dealing with Chinese officialdom when in Tibet - the officials would keep reminding me that "Tibet is a special case", to which I longed to respond (but diplomatically did not do so) by saying every time you say it is special you make it even more special.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I wouldn't think the club would indicate one way or the other whether there was a situation or not.Best left for Dave Nosworthy to manage the keeper position when he arrives.I'm sure he's well aware of Jos and Craig's capabilities as he's in regular contact with the club.

Quote:Old Boy
Many thanks to BristolRob for saving me from a quite night on WEDNESDAY!!!
Do you mean at the AGM Old Boy as I thought it was on tonight?
I'm hoping they will give me the two days the site was down and that will allow me to update on Thursday but nothing is quite that simple.

Attendance I'd estimate approx 300,a good turnout again.
New sponsors Tribute.New beers Tribute,Proper Job plus others from St Austell Brewery.
Everybody attending were treated to a free pint of Tribute.
Marcus is fit.
Vic said keeper issue will be sorted,so no problems there.
Old scoreboard being refurbished so no problems there.
Old Pavilion work mainly taking place winter of 2014/15.
oldboy! turned up on the right day!
I got a lift home.Most welcome it was too.Got me home two hours earlier than scheduled. Thanks to Tony the commentator.(Sorry can't remember his surname.)
Loads more I can't remember off the top of my head at the moment.
Top table included Hurry, Nash, Lavender and Vic Marks, no Tres (assume getting ready for Eng/NZ sky gig tonight)
Mr Nash spoke very well, nice presentation, lots of slides indicating how well run we are, and how well we do in relation to other counties in numerous aspects of cricketing matters.
We were shown plans of the new stand to replace the Old Pavillion and Somerset stand, think they mentioned aim is for 2014/15.
Hurry again spoke excellently i thought, answered Jos/Craig question in only way he could, "when Dave, Jos and Craig are all back they will sit down with eac individually and collectively and come up with a solution, we were never going to get any more than that)
Tres is fit and fully expected to take full part in the season.
The old scoreboard is being bought back to life so we're promised to fully operational main scoreboards for the season.
PA system being overhauled too.
Issues of parking, ground entry are being looked into.
Fast bowlers being sent to SA shortly for a week pre season as an area identified to try and avoid injury issues of last week, they will be under supervision of Dave Nosworthy whilst there.
No real contentious points i can recall
Jos has one year left on his contract and Craig K has Two.
The Taunton £1m loan is over fifteen years at 4% interest.
The ECB £1M is a grant not to be re-payed but is taxable.
The t20 next year will be seven home matches spread over one every two weeks.
The two scoreboard issue is because of what supporters told the club, Andy Nash said we do listen.
Membership last year was nearly 7000 last season and this year so far is about the same as the same time last year.
4th highest players cost.
3rd highest subscription income.
3rd highest gate income.
I think that's it from me.
Good to hear the scoreboard situation is being resolved.
Any mention of DN's visa ?
Grizzzly
They did say about our "quicks" going over for week soon for warm weather and bowling training, which Dave will be overseeing so he's clearly still there for whenever that is.
Mention of electronic contact between him and craig and him and jos re the keeping issue, so he is aware of it, and will be dealing with it when all are at HQ in person pre season.
Dave said to me on twitter the other day directly that he expected Visa issues to be soon resolved and expected to be with us around March 15th....
He opens for SA so unless they are about to move him to the middle order not really clear why they'd want him down in the middle order.
I assumed we'd signed AP in large part to cover Compton.
I'd have thought that, rather than simply sending the fast bowlers to SA, we could have send the whole team out there to work with Nosworthy - has to beat SkyPe.
Your previous correspondents have covered most points pretty well. I arrived on the right day! as reported by BristolRob AND a certain cider drinker from the new scoreboard area preferred the free beer!!
It was nice to meet a few cricketing friends again last night.
I always think the season is not long away after the AGM.Even more so this year after the postponement of the original meeting.
Sorry about my postings being "bitty"but my powers of memory retention are not what they used to be and I would rather post something as I remember it rather than leaving it until I've remembered everything.
Surrey are having a refit at the Oval at the moment.
Nice touch that counties can help each other.

Andy Hurry also reassured me that he expects Alfonso for the start of the season, good competition for seam bowling places.
Alf played his last T20 game in Bangla Desh yesterday so with seven weeks to the start of the season he could well take a few weeks rest if he thinks he needs it.
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Quote:Tops
The situation with regard to Petersen batting in the middle order was mentioned in regard to limited over cricket. Andy Hurry was concerned that we struggled on low slow wickets and wanted an experienced player who can rotate the strike if we lose early wickets. I assume that the idea is for Marcus annd Craig K to be the usual openers in limited overs but marcus and Alviro in the CC.
Andy Hurry also reassured me that he expects Alfonso for the start of the season, good competition for seam bowling places.
Maybe Kallis or Amla or somebody is moving up to open for SA in ODIs then?
It would seem strange for AP to move to the middle order in Tests given the strength of the guys that SA have in their Test middle order.
I think Mr Hurry's idea sounds a sensible one.
Quote:BristolRob
Thanks for that news of Alf Tops.Confirmation of what I've been saying all along.
Alf played his last T20 game in Bangla Desh yesterday so with seven weeks to the start of the season he could well take a few weeks rest if he thinks he needs it.
No.hes off to SA to play for the Titans in their T20 competition. Re Alviro, I think he bats down the order for the Lions in all but t20 competetions. Wouldnt surprise me if he does that in all comps for us, meaning Arul stays as opener in CC cricket. Always good to have Arul's spin option too.

After all, who else do we have that would appear to be any kind of natural at three?
Quote:Grockle
Anyone ask about the Alf position?
Tops, above, says that AH told him that he 'expects,' Alf from the start of the season.
As I said before though, we dont really know and it wont be long before we do.
Quote:Mike TA1
There's more.
4th highest players cost.
3rd highest subscription income.
3rd highest gate income.
Where do we sit in the cider consumption table? I feel Tractor's special efforts should be recognised.
Are we to assume that it will be Tribute on draught this coming season? Could be a lot worse.
Many thanks to contributors who between them have given us lots of information about what sounds like a very positive meeting.
At the very start of the AGM the first photo on the screen was of Peter Trego celebrating his fifty wickets, guess who took the photo?

LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Did anyone ask about the Alf position?

What did the plans, which were shown of the new pavilion, indicate that it will comprise of?
One assumes that the hotel, which was being talked about a few years ago, has been banished to the recycling bin, but do we yet know whether the new building will consist of another pavilion for players?
I assume that there will be seating for spectators and larger media facilities, but are any more flats, or business premises, designed to be incorporated into the new building?
I imagine, that within the new development, there will be some means whereby the club can generate additional income from non – match day events.

Quote:Clarence Parker
Thanks to everyone who attended and have given his or her reports on here - much appreciated.
What did the plans, which were shown of the new pavilion, indicate that it will comprise of?
One assumes that the hotel, which was being talked about a few years ago, has been banished to the recycling bin, but do we yet know whether the new building will consist of another pavilion for players?
I assume that there will be seating for spectators and larger media facilities, but are any more flats, or business premises, designed to be incorporated into the new building?
I imagine, that within the new development, there will be some means whereby the club can generate additional income from non – match day events.
One of the biggest concerns raised by a questioner was " How to avoid a white elephant like the Ian Botham stand with half the seats unusable due to the sightscreen!"
The CEO said they were working on it, but hadn't found an answer yet!
Quote:Mike TA1
There's more.
At the very start of the AGM the first photo on the screen was of Peter Trego celebrating his fifty wickets, guess who took the photo?
I guess that could net you a cool £500 Mike with repeat fees!!!
We won't tell the taxman!!

Quote:Ronniesabre
so Alf is in the IPL and intends to go and he hasnt told Somerset that? Is that what this comes down to? Unsatisfactory all round if that is the case.
As I said before though, we dont really know and it wont be long before we do.
Alf seems to have played non-stop for about 15 months. Perhaps he will decide to take the summer off!!
This may answer some questions.
Funds for the development 'in the bank' consisted of the grant from ECB (which has arrived) plus about £250,00 other funds. As said elsewhere the TDBC loan is of a £1m at 4% and I gained the impression the loan period was possibly open-ended! What was not said wa how much the development was likely to cost on present designs!
Alex Tetley, treasurer who is standing down this year stated that the level of debt the club was carrying was relatively low (to other clubs) and is therefore easily manageable.
The quick bowlers are off to Potchefstroom for a week or so to get in some good overs outside. This is a reaction to injuries suffered by them last season as they went in to the season undercooked!
Just had a quick look at the new SCCC website and at the foot it is stated that Tribute is the club Title partner and Thatchers is listed as the Cider partner.
So hopefully all will still be well in Tractor's world!!

Quote:old boy!Quote:Ronniesabre
so Alf is in the IPL and intends to go and he hasnt told Somerset that? Is that what this comes down to? Unsatisfactory all round if that is the case.
As I said before though, we dont really know and it wont be long before we do.
Alf seems to have played non-stop for about 15 months. Perhaps he will decide to take the summer off!!
I have heard from someone who is normally fairly reliable with info about the club. His info is that Alf has signed a final 3 year contract starting this year and will not be playing IPL!
It could be complete rubbish as some of these sort of things are, but it does make a lot of sense building around all the other stories. And of course, if Alf thought he was going to be used in the IPL like last time, he might have decided on the proverbial two finger sign, thinking that 3 guaranteed years with Somerset was a better deal.
If this all seems to be sorted, why is it so difficult to get a confirmation from anywhere?
I'm more worried about a three year contract - I'm personally never sure about 3 years to bowlers in their mid 30's but I once again will be very happy to be proved wrong.
Maybe the duration of the contract was the clincher, if the IPL motive was financial security and a clincher as needed.
I doubt Alf's Pune experience last year was a particularly enjoyable one.

Alf has put in sterling service for us, but if we have agreed to a three year deal, I reckon that's a trifle risky on our part.
Still, I seem to recall thinkng much the same when a certain A R Caddick was given a four year deal, so let's hope Alf can indeed turn in the goods for the duration.
Grizzzly
Hopefully the agreement is that Alf will never again play in it.
Ben Phillips also got too long and possibly even Charl though that wasn't with us.
"When an old cricketer leaves the crease" and all that.

Did anyone say whether we would have better weather this summer?
Quote:Sloop John B
Now you mention it Paileret that was quite a serious omission by the club.
Sadly, I am inclined to agree with you, Sloop John B.
A charming man and a very fine cricketer, I will forever remember what he achieved for our club.
Looking at versions of the IPL rules it seems that Pune Warriors currently have more than the prescribed number of foreign (i.e. non Indian) players in their 2013 squad. So it could be that Alf is released. Live in hope...


ALFONSO THOMAS for the next 3 years??
The way The Aussies are playing at the moment I'm sure they'd be pleased if we fielded an understrength side.
I expect the club are hoping the visitors raise their playing standards as they wouldn't want to lose out on revenue if the game was over in two days.
However, I suspect it wasn't... ;(
Andy obviously couldn't give a direct answer being so long away from the game so he did what I expected and waffled around the question without committing himself one way or the other.
