Our Starting X1 for 1st Game Competition
In your line up?
By MTWD Admin
February 23 2012
Thinking caps on, with the season just over a month away, MTWD are launching our first pre season competition. Quite simply list what you think our line up will be for the opening fixture at Taunton 5th April. The rules to follow;
Just name the starting X1 in batting order with the 12th man.
The winner will be the one who gets the most players right in the starting X1. In an event of the draw, in this order , the countback method will be.
1/ Most in correct batting order
2/ 12th Man.
3/ The earliest entry.
Therefore it will not pay off to copy somebody elses entry. On saying that you may want to bide your time to await pre season developments.
The closing date is 4th April midnight. There is a miniscule prize for the winner. Good luck.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:04:07:12:53:17 by chunkyinargyll.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Denly
Robson
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Rayner
Crook
Murtagh
Collymore
12th man Tobias Skelton Roland-Jones.
Strauss.
Robson.
Rogers.
Malan.
Dexter.
Morgan.
Simpson.
Berg.
Murtagh.
Finn.
Colleymore.
12th Man Rayner.
Well I lost every other comp this winter, so why change the record?
Robson
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Morgan
Simpson
Berg
Murtagh
TR Jones
Collymore
12th man Crook.
Denly
Robson
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Simmo
Berg
Rayner
Murtagh
TRJ
Collymore
12th man Crook
But,if Strauss,Morgan or Finn are free from England duty............Newman finds bit of pre-season form it could all change!
Could be the tie breaker though.
The amount of comments on this article is impressive considering it has only been up for just over an hour.
Denly
Robson
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Rayner
Murtagh
Roland-Jones
Collymore
12th Man Crook
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Denly,
Robson,
Rogers,
Malan,
Dexter,
Simpson,
Berg,
Rayner,
Crook,
Murtagh,
Collymore
12th man TRJ
Denly
Robson
Rogers
Dexter
Malan
Simpson
Berg
Rayner
Murtagh
TRJ
Colleymore
12th man: Crook
Seems like a fair amount of consensus!
If Zummerzet bat first, and we lose a wicket before close of play on day 1, then TRJ may come in as nightwatchman!
I'm thinking about this, might throw in a wild card to be different.
Denly
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Rayner
Roland-Jones
Murtagh
Collymore
Sorry to be boring but that is how I see it. Crook 12th man.
Of course, it never works out as obviously as it seems.
It seems a case of whether Robson or Denly will be no. 1 or 2 and TRJ or Crook at 9. Sadly, it maybe an injury that will open up more options.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Strauss (Newman*)
Robson
Denly
Rogers
Malan
Morgan (Berg)
Simmo
Rayner
Murtagh
Finn (TRJ**)
Collymore
*Newman only because he will, not because he should! But if it is Newman for Strauss, Newman will be at 3, Denly promoted to opener.
**TRJ to bat at 8 if Finn unavailable.
Doing this has made me realise that having four openers might be a bit of an issue when Straussy's around....I still think we need another top class all-rounder!
As for Dex being left out - yeah I do think that with absolutely everyone available, he should be dropped. He's only captain because Straussy is the England skipper....who would you drop? Would probably have to be Denly I suppose....can't see that happening.
Also, Dex's form last year was really dodgy, and if he hadnt been skipper then he would have been dropped.
In reality, I suppose Dex will probably play instead of Rayner to begin with? I'm not sure Newman will be dropped (as the replacement for Strauss) even though last season's form suggests he should be....
Newman (due to AS England duty)
Robson
Denly
Rogers
Malan
Dexter (due to EM England duty)
Simpson
Berg
Murtagh
TRJ (due to SF England duty)
Collymore
12th Man : Rayner
If Strauss and Morgan were both available somehow (not going to happen), there's just no way you can get Dexter into that team....he would HAVE to be dropped, no matter how good a skipper he is....he has to justify his place in purely cricketing terms.
Is there any possibility of any more signings this winter? I still think we could do with another all-rounder or a mystery spinner.....
Denly
Robson
Strauss
Rogers
Malan
Simpson
Newman
Morgan
All-Rounders:
Berg
Dexter
Bowlers:
Rayner
Murtagh
TRJ
Finn
Collymore
Williams
Given that Malan can bowl some decent leg-spin and Rayner is more of a slow-bowler than a spinner (sorry, Oli), I'd say we're looking a bit short in the all-rounders area, particularly as Dexter's bowling, whilst reliable, is not exactly threatening....and his batting last year was a major problem - apart from one big century and I think one 80-odd, he barely got double figures!
It's true all selectors of all teams tend to pick 6 batters rather than leave someone out, so I would agree when Strauss available, everyone moving down one, with Dex at 6, is a possibility, with him and Malan reasonable part time bowlers.
However, what I will say is that I see it as unlikely that we will make any signings for our County Championship campaign between now and the match at Taunton and that Neil Dexter won the
* I originally wrote the name of our sponsors as at the time of the award, but I realised that the club would rather I fade and strike through their name and insert our new sponsors.
I'd really love to know Luke just what Dex did to you either in this life or a past one as you really seem to have it in for him. More so than JW loves Simmo it would seem.
Your also unaware it seems that Denly is a pretty tidy bowler and some of Dex's bowling was top class last season.
Rogers
Robson
Denly
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Crook
Rayner
Dial M
Colly
12th man Smith.
Robson
Denly
Rogers
Dexter
Malan
Berg
Simpson
Crook
Rayner
Murtagh
Collymore
Simpson was in the toilet when the 4th wicket fell....
As for Crook - yes I agree he's good but I dont think he's ahead of any of Finn, Murts, Berg or Collymore, not to mention Roland-Jones who I thought was impressive last year....if he could develop his batting further so he was a genuine all-rounder then this could change things for him....
Robson
Rogers
Dexter
Malan
Berg
Simpson
Rayner
Roland Jones
Murtagh
Collymore
Denly
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Berg
Simpson
Rayner
Crook
Murtagh
Colleymore
12th man: TRJ
The final space in the team would go to Newman (Middx av in the CC: 33.17) statistically, so let's call that Denly because we all know Newman has lost form and looks likely to go to Kent on loan. Morgan (Middx av in the CC: 31.84) would also be close behind, but statistically would definitely NOT make the first XI, and oddly enough, neither would Steven Finn, unless you wanted to drop a batsman and play four specialist bowlers, which seems unlikely when you have Berg, Dexter and Malan who can all bowl quite well enough. With that in mind, I'd probably go with:
Strauss
Robson
Denly
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
To-Ro-Jo
Murtagh
Collymore
12th Man: Morgan
In reality, I would imagine that it would be TRJ as 12th man with Finn in the team at no.10, despite the fact that Roland-Jones actually has the best bowling average of any bowler who has played for us in this century by some distance. Our current bowling attack is very impressive when compared to some previous ones:
(Qualification: 25 wickets. Listed down to Berg, who comes in 16th in the list)
Roland-Jones 22.6 (58 wickets) CURRENT
Clark 25.2 (25 wickets)
Kartik 25.7 (100 wickets)
Murtagh 26.1 (279 wickets) CURRENT - and just had the best season of his Middx career by a mile....
Collymore 26.3 (49 wickets) CURRENT
Fraser 26.4 (657 wickets)
Richardson 27.0 (139 wickets)
Johnson 27.7 (265 wickets)
Collins 27.8 (36 wickets)
Tufnell 28.3 (795 wickets)
Finn 28.3 (156 wickets) CURRENT
Styris 28.6 (49 wickets)
Hewitt 29.6 (159 wickets)
Crook 31.2 (26 wickets) CURRENT
Dutch 31.3 (26 wickets)
Berg 31.4 (78 wickets) CURRENT
As Berg is by far the best batsman out of that list, you can't really leave him out, so purely on statistics, it has to be Finn who misses out, doesn't it, strange though that sounds? Im sure by instinct we would all leave TRJ out if all others were available, myself included, but that bowling average is so far ahead of everyone else.....
Drop Hi Fi for TRJ? your 'avin a giraffe!!
Also it can depend where you play your home games. Seamers at Bristol always do well, and Gloucester batmen tend to struggle, wheras in recent times, bowling at Taunton can be hard work, and batting easier. I know Scott Newman still has a good overall career average, but alot of that was at batsman friendly Oval, with some big individual hundreds cancelling out the barren periods, but overall not as consistant as he, or we, would like.
Key assumption: the England call-ups are, well, called up!
Denly
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Morgan (I've heard he's not going to Sri Lanka?)
Simpson
Berg
Rayner
Murtagh
TRJ
Collymore
12th: London
Go to the IPL.
Go directly to the IPL.
Do not pass St Johns Wood.
Do not pick up your Middlesex kit,
etc, etc!
See your point in some ways though.
Oh well, London gets the call up with Sam on the drinks....mind you Sam should be a certain starter now - go Middx!!
My unoriginal pick:
Robson
Denly
Rogers
Malan
Dexter*
Simpson+
Berg
Rayner
TRJ
Murts
Colly
12th man Crook
13th man Paul Stirling
Hope to get down for Saturday.
1. Joe Denly
2. Sam Robson
3. Chris Rogers
4. Dawid Malan
5. Neil Dexter
6. John Simpson
7. Gareth Berg
8. Ollie Rayner
9. Tim Murtagh
10. Toby Roland-Jones
11. Corey Collymore
12th man. Steven Crook
With the addition of Andrew Strauss and Steven Finn when available, I believe this will be the nucleus of the team which will finish third.
Come on the Middle!
Date: 10/03/2012 16:34
(Qualification: 25 wickets. Listed down to Berg, who comes in 16th in the list)
Roland-Jones 22.6 (58 wickets) CURRENT
Clark 25.2 (25 wickets)
Kartik 25.7 (100 wickets)
Murtagh 26.1 (279 wickets) CURRENT - and just had the best season of his Middx career by a mile....
Collymore 26.3 (49 wickets) CURRENT
Fraser 26.4 (657 wickets)
Richardson 27.0 (139 wickets)
Johnson 27.7 (265 wickets)
Collins 27.8 (36 wickets)
Tufnell 28.3 (795 wickets)
Finn 28.3 (156 wickets) CURRENT
Styris 28.6 (49 wickets)
Hewitt 29.6 (159 wickets)
Crook 31.2 (26 wickets) CURRENT
Dutch 31.3 (26 wickets)
Berg 31.4 (78 wickets) CURRENT
As Berg is by far the best batsman out of that list, you can't really leave him out, so purely on statistics, it has to be Finn who misses out, doesn't it, strange though that sounds? Im sure by instinct we would all leave TRJ out if all others were available, myself included, but that bowling average is so far ahead of everyone else.....
With all due respects and fine player that he is...I doubt that Gareth Berg would consider his batting record to be superior to that of Scott Styris.
Played 29 NZ Tests HS 170 5 centuries and a respectable 36+ average.
More of a one day player for NZ. He played 180 matches 4341 runs @ av 32.88 4 tons and 27 fifties. Not bad for a bloke at 4/5 frequently in with the slog on.
Not too long ago I can remember Scotty singlehandedly almost, beating England in a Lord's ODI (I think).
This in no way denigrates Gareth...
So comparison's are difficult.
He (Scott) also helped us out during the gloom off 2006. A rain sodden summer, relegation and the captain resigned mid season.
He stepped in as interim captain and put his head on the block meeting the critics.
A v.difficult year for the Middle on and off the field.
So Scott Styris gets my vote as an 'Honorary Man of the Middle' for services rendered on and off the pitch.
A bloke I suspect who never reached his allround potential due to numerous hamstring injuries.
Clark and Kartik occasionally shone.
Date: 28/02/2012 20:12
I must admit I didnt know that Denly bowled.
Fairly usefully in the T20/40/40 stuff it has to be said ML.
SS in his pomp a vg all rounder, though I expect if asked, SS might say his batting his stronger suit.
GB is a tasty allrounder now. A few years back SS was also.
Denly
Robson
Rogers
Dexter
Malan
Simpson
Berg
Crook
TRJ
Murtagh
Colleymore
12th man Rayner
I need to go for something different. I reckon there's a chance they will be a realisation that wicket won't take spin, in an emergency can call upon Denly and AC's part time slow bowling. With little to chose between Crook and TRJ above will be line up. Need to give myself a chance of awarding myself a miniscule prize.
Only time well tell if JW's waiting game will pay off.
I admit when I put the competition up, would have put TRJ ahead of Crook. Now likely Crook will play so have gone for the 4 seamer option. Tactically, I have left it late to give myself a good chance of a miniscule prize from me.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
5 seam bowlers will be too many considering Dex can do a job. Have now seen a brief bit of 2 games and have to say Malan looks quality. Think he will score 1500 runs this season.
1. Joe Denly
2. Sam Robson
3. Chris Rogers
4. Dawid Malan
5. Neil Dexter
6. John Simpson
7. Gareth Berg
8. Ollie Rayner
9. Steven Crook
10. Tim Murtagh
11. Corey Collymore
12th man: Adam London
I apologise if my team exactly resembles anyone else's line-up. If so, it means that great minds think alike and that I cannot be the outright winner.
My team is like our first innings batting order for the match v Durham MCCU, with Denly replacing London and the player making way for Collymore being Toby Roland-Jones, as Crook appeared to win the head-to-head battle against Roly. The reason why I think London will be 12th man is because we may want to travel with cover for Denly, and because London looks a better fielder than Roly. However, I have faith Roly will get lots of chances to prove his abilities this season.
I was thinking of saying Robbo will face the first ball, as most people have predicted that Denly will do so, but it seems that habitually Denly faces the first ball with Robbo rarely doing so, so I expect that will happen when they open together for Middlesex.
After waiting weeks, apart from 12th man, you agree with me. As AL is a good fielder I guess there is a very good chance he will be the official 12th man.
Under the rules it's 1) correct team. If that doesn't work 2) correct batting order, and if that is the same the final tie-break is 3) 12th man. Only Pantherlike also has London as 12th man, but then he had to spoil it by picking Morgan. Mind you, if Denly doesn't play then no one wins!!
Personally I think JW's entry should be subject to a drug enquiry, if Joe D plays with just half a 40/40 game under his belt after injury I will be surprised.

Whatever the X1 picked, let's hope they come home with the bacon.
1 DENLY
2 ROBSON
3 ROGERS
4 MALAN
5 DEXTER (Captain)
6 SIMPSON (Wkt. Kpr.)
7 BERG
8 RAYNER
9 CROOK
10 MURTAGH
11 COLLYMORE
12 LONDON
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Nevermind. Moggy? Could've picked Gatts in the end!
Go Middx in Taunton - great to see Adam in the squad.
Result shortly!
So I am going to declare Seaxe Man the winner, as he was the only one to predict the correct 11 AND who would face the first delivery.
Quote:Jonathan Winsky
the player making way for Collymore being Toby Roland-Jones, as Crook appeared to win the head-to-head battle against Roly [in the match v Durham MCCU]
Hopefully the club's decision to select Toby Roland-Jones rather than Steven Crook will be justified.
Quote:Jonathan Winsky
I was thinking of saying Robbo will face the first ball, as most people have predicted that Denly will do so, but it seems that habitually Denly faces the first ball with Robbo rarely doing so, so I expect that will happen when they open together for Middlesex
As seems to be the case in many aspects of my life at the moment, the amount of time I spend researching things appears not to be paying off considering Sam Robson actually faced the first ball. I have spent most of the last couple of days studying for an exam in a fortnight's time, yet I still don't think I have mastered the subject. As a result of all the studying, I have lost my passion for cricket and don't feel as excited as I would like to be about Somerset v Middlesex.
At least I think I got 10 of the 11 right plus the 12th man, with seven in batting order.
Quote:chunkyinargyll
it was how it was announced on the various cricket feeds rather than what actually happens
As the result of this competition is being based on the various cricket feeds, I am glad we didn't have to predict Gloucestershire's XI for their match v Essex, as their XI on the scorecards on BBC and Sporting Life show some of the bowlers high up the order and some of the batsmen low down, which is certainly not what the actual order will be.
The reason why I felt it best to go by the starting line-up rather actual batting line -up was in case of a night watchman or an injury half way through game which could have changed matters dramatically. Internet feeds are generally accurate, but if they were any contentious issues I would have referred to the actual scorecard at Taunton.
Congratulations to Seaxe Man. A miniscule prize on its way to you. I must say if I was quick enough that would have been my X1, although not sure of order.
Well done Seaxe Man, see three months without a pc and he can still win comps on here.
Congratulations to Seaxe_Man.
By the way, my mention of the Essex v Gloucestershire match was just to have a laugh at the batting order stated on the official feeds rather than to comment on the reliability of these feeds.
118/4 after the first day. That Philander must've been a handfull?!
Dexter
Crook
Ireland
London
Malan
Robson
Rossington
Rayner
Scollay
Simpson
Smith
Williams
The above is in the order printed,an insert was quickly printed and added!
I can confirm that the Somerset v Middlesex day one scorecard named several 2nd XI players, as that story is mentioned on Cricinfo's live blog of yesterday's County Championship action under "10.45am: David Lloyd at Somerset v Middlesex".
A page on Somerset's official website about ways to follow day one showed the XI which appeared on the scorecard, although that page has since been edited to hide the evidence.
My only guess is that the XI shown on the scorecard was based on the line-up for our friendly v Northamptonshire.
I wouldn't want you to think I trawled through this thread looking for a 'Stop Winsky' candidate. (as if I would!)

Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
And congrats to Murts...on his 45...might get you in the Ireland T20 team come Sept Tim...with Joycey and Stirlo there...a home from home...
By Sunday we will know how crucial those runs were...
