Forum. Return of a legend


By Barmy Kev
September 25 2012

BARMY KEV REPORTS ON UPBEAT FORUM ENHANCED BY RETURN OF LEGEND




Panel

I Luv it, Vinny, Gus


Big turn out presumably for the appearance of our illustrious ex leader, but then again maybe Ged has not that greater appeal.

I Luvit started by saying forums previously have been a mixture of bad news, moderate news and some good news. Well since last year we have progressed from being 10th to 3rd best county , were exactly the same in CB40 2nd in qualifying stage and still cr&p at 20/20.

1st half of forum on Middlesex and 2nd half Andy Strauss appearance.


 

Middlesex Forum

Gus announces signing of James Harris on 3-year deal. Rapturous applause. There was of competition from 12 other counties for his signature, although he left Glamorgan as there was clause he would leave if they were not in Division 1. Not sure about other 3 counties who had no chance.  He signed not for financial reasons but was impressed by our set up.


Gus was asked about Finn accidently hitting stumps and costing a wicket in test against south Africa?

He thought umpires got it wrong and rules should be changed.

 

Shots asked why we don’t play 2 spinners?   

If pitch dictates we will, like at Oval but it did not work out for us. Ollie was injured and Ravi was unavailable for this game.

 

Radlett, are we going to be playing 1st class games there? 

Still issues here, like the hedge at side. Not ready for 1st class cricket but excellent training facilities. England have trained and are impressed.

 

20/20 cricket. Performance and structure?

Thought we wre better than last year, Lost 7 close games in toughest group.   Not sure exactly how structure is going to change long term , but next year will be split into 2 because of Champions League.  Mass audible sigh in room.  

 

Fingers made 4 points.

Finn’s bowling technique of knocking stumps over and falling when bowling.

Suggested Finger’s as bowling coach. He then compared this to like Olympics foot fault in long jump after 4 years of training.

 James Harris. He thought better we sign a batter.

Was pointed out end of season we had 2nd highest batting/2nd lowest bowling points  

 Crookie should be capped. Not answered

 Fixtures. Middlesex v Sorry games shouldn’t clash with test matches. Not answered.        

 

Middx v West Indies game why the weak side?  Weak team was a travesty and insult to fans and W Indies.

Gus read out side with and justified each player.  Just accepted was a poor performance.

 

Paul Stirling should be playing. 4-day cricket?

Not enough experience, but he is in our plans. He was injured at Oval game where he probably would have been picked.

 

Dingy Bags asked about our 150-year anniversary to celebrate championship.

This will be put back to us members on what we would like. If we spend £30,000 spend on this, could be price of young player for season.

 

Someone in audience suggested an old timers day.  Two teams consisting of ex and current players which was well received.


Good question next I thought. Why male members can purchase Middlesex CCC ties,  but lady members don’t have equivalent especially with 150 years celebration in mind? This wasn’t fully answered, but there was a careless whisper about a celebratory thong.

 

Anymore comings and goings?

Gus confirmed Tom Scollay released. No other signings imminent.

 

At AGM stated we lost 700 members to MCC last year.  Compensation? 

Hard to claim for this.  There are many issues with MCC who we have a good relationship with under discussion.


 

 

Andrew Strauss Show


Andrew Strauss was introduced by I Luvit outlining his many achievements with Middlesex and England He walked in to standing ovation from audience. He was presented with framed certificate of 100th test at Lords. MCC wouldn’t allow this presentationat that game???

Alan Ashton Seaxe Club Chairman presented champagne and thanked him. 


Now for questions.

 

1st question from Fingers. Now what?

Waiting for dust to settle.

 

Question about a South African who he used to share dressing room with. Mass groan all round.   We are talking about Compton. Why he took so long to fulfil his potential?

AJS recognised this and felt he may have been a bit intense at first.

 

Highlight of career?  

Ashes ton at Lords.

 

I Luvit asked why a lot of runs in a day and out early following morning. Met by tongue in cheek answer celebrating?

 

Could have he stayed and improved his batting average at 35.

AJS. No energy left at time of retiring. No regrets. Left when time right.

 

Asked about his 1st wicket?

It was KP.

 

Why he didn’t play in our last game home to Lancs?

AJS said 2 reasons. Gus intervened said he had to be selected first. ( mass laughter and applause). He thought about it, but wanted his last game to be test at Lords without announcing it in advance. He felt wasn’t right frame in mind for match.  He didn't want big fuss on his final game.

 

Asked about his captaincy for England?

He was passionate changing about culture of cricket team, especially in respect to practise and training.

 

Comment he made 21 test hundreds and needed one more to equal record?

Gus said would take another 3 years to achieve this. AJS- Landmark was not a motivation his ambitions were team motivated.

 

Who should take his place as opener? Joe Root?

Not sure as hadn’t seen him.  He remembered Alistair Cook’s ton on debut in 2006 as youngster in India and feel there could be similar opportunity from current crop.

 

Thoughts on the changes in culture of county cricket? 

Old days when he started many county players would act as hey could casually cruise through. Noticed now fitter and more motivated players were.   He finished on an unpopular note saying he feels we should play less county cricket.


 

I Luvit rounded up by saying 2 years ago we were 17th , now 3rd and thanked Gus for bringing us to this point. He thanked everyone for their support with special mention to office staff.  I echo that

 

 Party followed with some careless whispers and affectionate comments about our posters.  Strauss was centre of attraction and sure he appreciated the attention, but could see him edging to exit at end while surrounded and still smiling.         

Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: Middlesex till we die (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 00:37

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:09:28:20:57:03 by The Diamond ruled ok.

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: The Diamond ruled ok (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 05:26

Sounds like the party would have been very good practice for AJS,he'll be doing a lot of these type of functions in the next few months,not that he hasn't done similar as England Captain for the last few years.

Good report and up very fast,I take it the red wine ran out early Kev?

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: Beeamazed (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 06:22

Straussy had a busy day .
He gave a motivational thingy to the Saracens squad at St Albans at lunchtime.
He won't get bored in his retirement....

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: tallliman (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 06:48

Thanks for the review of the forum. Sounds like a very positive evening. Happy with the signing of Harris (though we may well lose him to the Lions).

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: adelaide (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 11:44

I wonder how Paul Stirling is supposed to get enough experience of four day Championship cricket if he is too inexperienced to be selected to play it? I suppose one answer is a loan spell to a Div 2 county. But, as reported, it struck me as a somewhat circular answer (and no, that isn't a reference to Gatt).


Adelaide

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 12:13

The official website has now produced a report of last night.

With regards to suggestions that Paul Stirling should play County Championship cricket, I am surprised no-one has pointed out that the fact Middlesex’s batsmen seldom get injured makes it difficult to get Stirlo into the side. If they are all fit, Stirlo won’t get into the side, except as an all-rounder or spinner. However, I fear an injury crisis amongst our batsmen now I have said this!

With regards to proposals for a match in 2014 involving former players, I remember a match took place nine years ago at Ealing between a Middlesex 1993 XI and a Middlesex 2003 XI, so it would be nice to have a similar match in 2014. That year marks the 10th anniversary of our 4th-place finish in the County Championship, which was our highest ever finish during my time as a supporter … until we beat it in 2012.

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: Seaxe_Man (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 14:48

AJS with reference to the timing of his retiremenent: said he was happy to finish his career with the Middle with a not out century.

In his debut match he scored 83. So a good start and finish.

He also added he did'nt feel comfortable doing a 'lap of honour'.



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Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: tallliman (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 20:09

Jonathon, who won that game?

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: Beeamazed (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 21:56

He'll come back in about 24 hours.

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: kimmy (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2012 22:48

Thanks for the report kev I was due to attend but had to pull out last minute!


Kimmy

Always look on the bright side of life... de dum de dum de dum de dum dum

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: Fozzie (IP Logged)
Date: 26/09/2012 13:02

One further thing Straussie said about his future, after his initial response about letting the dust settle, was that he wanted to remain in cricket. He said that he didn't want to be going to events like Monday's in 20 years time and simply saying that he used to be England captain long ago - he wanted to achieve more.

He is so articulate, straight and personable, and spoke so passionately about how proud he was to help change the culture in the England set-up, that I'm sure he has plenty still to contribute.

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
Date: 26/09/2012 21:44

I think the Middlesex 1993 XI beat the Middlesex 2003 XI, although I am not totally sure, as there seems to be no record of the match on Cricket Archive. I remember Mike Gatting played well, and I think both teams were quite strong.

One of the things mentioned at the forum was the 2014 structure, although no-one seemed sure what it will be. A Daily Telegraph article says that it is looking likely that the Clydesdale Bank competition will be 50 overs rather than 40, although there is no indication of whether or not the format whereby only four teams qualify for the knockout stage will be retained. With the exception of Andrew Strauss, everyone present on Monday will be delighted to know that it looks almost certain there will continue to be 16 County Championship matches a season.

Re: Forum. Return of a legend
Posted by: tallliman (IP Logged)
Date: 29/09/2012 18:38

Thanks Jonathon.

I have no problem with 50 overs cricket so long as they squeeze them into the same amount of time they allow for a Pro40 game. If not, keep the Pro40 as it is!!

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