Old Pete's Puzzler 14


By OldPete & Smurf
August 5 2009

Two collections this week - The First from Simon - Following on from Chris' last lot, some more ex-Saints players and From Old Pete - before he departs for the South Seas - "Monsieur Gleadell's is a hard act to follow in terms of twisted logic so I will just accept that we have a different style "

 

 

Following on from Chris' last lot, some more ex-Saints players:

 

 Smurf

  1. Grade the fighting groups
  2. He's a craftsman, but a turkey
  3. Coaches told him to grease the ground
  4. You're backwards if you're striking a big or little seizure
  5. A load of broken military vehicles
  6. A spiky cottage for Elwood Dowd's friend



 

 

Monsieur Gleadell’s is a hard act to follow in terms of  twisted logic so I will just  accept that we have a different style  - So this little lot concerns " Kings and Queens " in a  loose sense of course.

 

as usual identify and explain all of the components 

 

 

 Old Pete

  1. Half bourbon and half retail his title was won by trickery.
  2.  Originally a pratt it might be said was only really through hurt that he achieved full recognition.
  3.  Which  spurned woman lies  " north of the Nene "
  4.  a pioneer campaigner against smoking he allegedly preferred Buckingham to Denmark
  5.  He already held a state when called on to replace an unwanted brother
  6.  What common condition in the end connected Mary, Elizabeth and Anne?

 

Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ComeOnYouSaints.com (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 00:21

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: bonso (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 01:37

/5 William of Orange held the Dutch States and replaced the unwanted James II brother of Charles II

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: Ian Spokes (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 07:59

Is 3 Mary Queen of Scots? For a period of time she was buried at Fotheringhay Castle (although this was not to be her final resting place). Very good pub - The Falcon - in Fotheringhay, too.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: Ian Spokes (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 08:08

Pte 6
id they all die "without issue"?

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: Ian Spokes (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 08:09

Simon 5
Dickie Jeeps?



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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 08:10

6: Harvey Thorneycroft = Elwood Dowds friend was a giant rabbit called Harvey, spikey = thorney, croft = cottage.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: Ian Spokes (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 08:11

Simon 6
DI am having trouble answering this as the SportNetwork softwae thinks it is spam
First name ickie
Second name Jeeps?

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: Ian Spokes (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 08:18

Simon 2
Is it Buff somebody?

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 08:25

Pete 4: James 1st, was said to prefer the company of the Duke of Buckingham over his wife, princess whoever of Denmark. And didn't he raise the tobacco tax by thousands of percent to make it out of reach for the common man?

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 08:40

Ian - My number 5 was indeed Dickie Jeeps, number 2 isn't Buff anyone.
Chris - number 6 is Harvey.

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:06

And you said my logic was twisted Pete?
No2's 'queen' is Quintin Crisp, his original surname was Pratt and he became famous to all after John Hurt played him in the Naked Civil Servant.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:11

Pete 6: If it isn't the kid thing is it baldness, toothless or haemophillia?

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:17

Smurf 4 is pat lam

strike is pat or of course it could be a backwards tap

little or big seizure is a petit or grand mal and mal backwards is lam.

I guess that gives away the fact that my nurses brain homed in on the epilepsy factor!

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Dryathlon



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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: Tracy O (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:27

Smurf's 3 must be Jeff Butterfield - from Jeff's coaches and grease = Butter / ground = field.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:30

Rich and Tracy - both right, only the first two of mine left now!

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:32

1. I would guess is Mark someone.

Clearly Tucker doesn't fit! And I'm guessing that Stcherbina doesn't mean military grading!

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Dryathlon

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:33

Edgar Mobbs, Edgar is an anagram of Grade, mobs, fighting groups.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:35

Oh flip it, I thought we didn't do this anagram malarkey

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:35

Only the twisted logic bloke doesn't do anagrams.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:36

2. Don White

Don was one of the shoemakers in Kinky Boots and White is a breed of turkey

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:36

And if only we had a player called Matthew Carpenter we'd have the full set winking smiley

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:37

Right again Chris, I didn't say anything about anagrams. One left...

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:37

No Rich, 2 isn't Don White.

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:40

Really? I thought a reference to your favourite film would have been too obvious!

Is Volland a breed of turkey?

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 09:43

No Blues Brothers reference there Rich (Sm105)

As far as I know there isn't a Volland turkey, even if there is that's not the right answer.

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 10:02

Ooh ooh is it jake or elwood someone?

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 10:05

NO, Elwood was in question 6 (Sm7)

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 10:06

what a clever lot you are

Bonso - correct

number 6 Mr Spokes yes -t Anne did have children but they all died.

Chris James 1 and Quentin Crisp correct,

William of Orange is correct.

which leaves - not Mary Q of Scots.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 10:19

Vaguely remember this on a school trip could it be the wife of Henry VIII buried at P'boro Cathedral? Katherine of Aragon?

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: Tracy O (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 10:38

Beat me to it Chris...

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 16:16

2. Tom Smith

The Smith is obvious, Tom (well as no-one was getting there I put Tom turkey into google and it spewed results at me!) is apparently a male turkey.

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 17:48

Well done Rich, it almost lasted a whole day this time!

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 19:29

MORE PLEASE, I'm GOING STIR CRAZY HERE IN QUARANTINE!!!

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St Marlowe (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 22:24

There's some fiends on their way

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2009 22:55

Chris - tis indeed the Spanish lady who lies in Peterborough Cathederal.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: Shaddo (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 07:15

In a late bid for a QI point can I just say it is believed that the Elephant & Castle area of London is named for Catherine of Aragon, who owned property there. It's modern name is thought to be a corruption of one of her titles; L'Infanta de Castille.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 08:13

No shaddo true but shes the answer to number 3.

no one has got number one ? now i thought that was the easiest.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 10:45

!. Half a bourbon? Jack Daniel's or Jim Beam? Then the retail bit marks and Spencer ok I've googled and found a con-man called Jack Marks who pretended to be some sort of native American intellectual (remove the native and I believe there's an oxymoron alert*,)called Jamake Highwater. I'd love all that to be the right answer but doubt it!!!

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 10:49

Jack Daniels sin't bourbon Rich, it's Tennessee sour mash whiskey. Bourbon has to be made in Kentucky.

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 10:52

Mate see another thread, I think Asti Spumante is a type of champagne. Anyway why do you know things like that? I'll have a coke a rye, but leave out the rye!!!

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Dryathlon

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 10:55

Pah! Only the French and the Americans can make real champagne...

It's just one of those things Rich, a random piece of useless information that I can remember now, even though I can hardly recall most of my time at school.

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Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St Marlowe (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 11:33

George (Retail) got the law changed so he could inherit the crown - was he related to the Bourbons?

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 12:02

St M is on a better track with the Bourbons than are the folowers of colonial liquors but " George " is not the link .


a cluelet - in contradistinction to all of the others in my questions this one is very much alive.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: St Marlowe (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 12:24

Bourbon-Parma
(Ham - Retail) wild I know!

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 13:59

Oh dear another false track - ham indeed ?

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: Sarge (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2009 23:56

Is it to do with the Grimaldis in Monaco?

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2009 08:51

Or King Juan Carlos's branch?

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2009 09:49

Chris you are very close - and its Friday

so the answer is King Carlos Spencer -

half Bourbon as in Carlos ( king of spain ) half retail as in ( marks & ) Spencer and certainly a trickster.

well thats all from me for a bit as Im orf to Barcelona on Monday for a week.

Be Good.

Re: Old Pete's Puzzler 14
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2009 10:19

Very good Pete.

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