News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens


By David Lowrence
April 19 2010

This will be Saracens' third visit to the Gardens this season, Saints having hosted them twice in the LV= Cup, with the Premiership match at Wembley, this means the tally this year is Saints 2 Saracens 1. This looks like being one of the toughest matches of the season for Saints.

Guinness Premiership Round 21

Saints v Saracens

Saturday 24th April, Franklin's Gardens. KO 3pm

 

When I volunteered to write this preview, it was just after the last visit of Saracens on 14th March. it looked to be fairly a fairly straightforward preview. How much has gone on since then! A divertissement caused by a change of heart by one of the Franklin's Favourites, A shiny new Cup courtesy of a visit to Worcester, and the rescheduling of our postponed Bath match to ensure that we face our visitors on the third match in seven days. Oh yes, Saracens have started to score tries again.

Negative comments from some quarters notwithstanding, the colourful sight of the black and red supporters at the Gardens is usually the cue for some good banter and much ale to flow. I hope this visit will be no exception.

The two previous games at the Gardens this year were in the LV= cup, so I expect to see quite a different side from Watford run out on Saturday.  Given the win against Harlequins Last week, Saracens will be on a roll, and will field their strongest side. Brits particularly will be a handful, and I am sure their entire front row will be "Up for it".

Saracens have slipped from their position at the top of the Table following their barnstorming first half, but in the last few games they have rediscovered an ability to run the ball and score tries. Make no mistake, they are on a mission, and will be a handful. Last Saturday they beat a peculiarly out of sorts Harlequins at Wembley, with Brits being allowed to run amok, and the team scoring five tries.

Given our defensive record this season, I suspect that Saracens may have their work cut out to do that again, and Saints will give as good as they get in the "Running Rugby" stakes. Two evenly matched sides, so it should be an entertaining afternoon.

Courtesy of Statbunker, the following stats show how the Saracens have been performing

Guinness Premiership 09/10 Saracens Top Scorers

Pts

 Name

 Nat.

Try

Pen.

Con

DG

127

Derick Hougaard

South Africa

1

7

30

6

123

Glen Jackson

New Zealand

1

17

27

1

25

Schalk Brits

South Africa

5

0

0

0

25

Andy Saull

England

5

0

0

0

20

Alex Goode

England

2

2

1

1

15

Ernst Joubert

South Africa

3

0

0

0

15

Chris Wyles

England

3

0

0

0

15

Noah Cato

England

3

0

0

0

15

Kameli Ratuvou

Fiji

3

0

0

0

10

Bradley Barritt

South Africa

2

0

0

0

10

Richard Haughton

England

2

0

0

0

5

Wikus van Heerden

South Africa

1

0

0

0

5

Michael Tagacakibau

Fiji

1

0

0

0

5

Justin Melck

South Africa

1

0

0

0

5

Neil de Koch

South Africa

1

0

0

0

 

Guinness Premiership 09/10 / Attacking Stats Comparison

Saracens VS Saints

Fields

Saracens

Saints

Premiership Average

Matches Played

20

19

19.83

Total Tries

34

38

30.33

Av. Mins per Try

 47.06

 40.00

26 mins

Total Points

420

394

359.58

Home Points

263

232

202.17

Away Points

157

162

157.42

First Half Points

234

186

191.83

Second Half Points

186

208

167.75

Home Tries

21

24

17.00

Away Tries

13

14

13.33

Penalty Tries

0

0

1.08

First Half Tries

18

18

14.67

Second Half Tries

16

20

15.67

First 10 mins Tries

5

5

2.58

Last 10 mins Tries

5

9

5.00

Tries By Forward

15

10

9.42

Tries By Backs

19

28

19.67

Drop Goal

8

2

3.00

Home Drop Goal

3

1

1.83

Away Drop Goal

5

1

1.17

First Half Drop Goal

6

1

1.50

Second Half Drop Goal

2

1

1.50

Penalty

58

52

52.25

Home Penalty

39

27

29.17

Away Penalty

19

25

23.08

First Half Penalty

34

25

31.33

Second Half Penalty

24

27

20.92

Sin Bin

9

3

7.08

Red Card

0

0

0.50

Kick rate

65%

65%

70% 

 

Head to Head

Home Team

VS

Away Team

Result

Date

Saints

20 - 15

Saracens

 Lose

14/02/2009

Saints

13 - 35

Saracens

 Won

18/11/2006

Saints

58 - 17

Saracens

 Lose

18/02/2006

Saints

20 - 21

Saracens

 Won

05/02/2005

Saints

24 - 3

Saracens

 Lose

27/03/2004

Saints

34 - 25

Saracens

 Lose

08/02/2003

Saints

52 - 27

Saracens

 Lose

27/04/2002

Saints

25 - 14

Saracens

 Lose

31/03/2001

Saints

8 - 32

Saracens

 Won

09/10/1999

Saints

18 - 21

Saracens

 Won

06/02/1999

Saints

13 - 19

Saracens

 Won

08/11/1997

Saints

17 - 10

Saracens

 Lose

08/02/1997

Saracens

19 - 16

Saints

 Won

12/09/2009

Saracens

26 - 12

Saints

 Won

27/09/2008

Saracens

38 - 15

Saints

 Won

27/12/2006

Saracens

28 - 22

Saints

 Won

05/11/2005

Saracens

23 - 12

Saints

 Won

10/10/2004

Saracens

18 - 22

Saints

 Lose

15/02/2004

Saracens

31 - 19

Saints

 Won

28/09/2002

Saracens

25 - 20

Saints

 Won

23/09/2001

Saracens

10 - 30

Saints

 Lose

03/12/2000

Saracens

29 - 24

Saints

 Won

17/05/2000

Saracens

34 - 7

Saints

 Won

06/09/1998

Saracens

43 - 20

Saints

 Won

14/05/1998

Saracens

24 - 23

Saints

 Won

29/10/1996

Overall : Won 16 / Drawn 0 / Lost 9
Home   : Won 11 / Drawn 0 / Lost 2
Away   :  Won  5 / Drawn 0 / Lost 7
 

Guinness Premiership 09/10 Saracens Away Match History

Date

Home

Score

Result

First

Last

Gate

09/04/2010

Sale

19 - 30

 Won

Hougaard

Goode

6952

03/04/2010

Gloucester

29 - 28

 Lose

Burns

Burns

13338

07/03/2010

Leeds

19 - 12

 Lose

Hougaard

Ford

4031

21/02/2010

Wasps

9 - 0

 Lose

Cipriani

Cipriani

8530

27/12/2009

L/Irish

23 - 19

 Lose

Malone

Malone

19734

27/11/2009

Worcester

12 - 12

 Draw

Walker

Walker

10027

31/10/2009

Bath

11 - 12

 Won

Davis

Davis

11700

04/10/2009

Newcastle

15 - 22

 Won

Gopperth

Gopperth

5453

19/09/2009

Harlequins

9 - 22

 Won

Evans

Evans

9209

Guinness Premiership 09/10 Saints Home Record - Top Scorers

Total

Name

Nationality

Tries

Cons

Pen

DG

69

Stephen Myler

England

0

9

16

1

45

Chris Ashton

England

9

0

0

0

42

Shane Geraghty

England

1

5

9

0

16

Bruce Reihana

New Zealand

2

0

2

0

15

Phil Dowson

England

3

0

0

0

10

Jon Clarke

England

2

0

0

0

5

Ben Foden

England

1

0

0

0

5

Petrus Johannes Juandre Kruger

South Africa

1

0

0

0

5

Roger Wilson

Ireland

1

0

0

0

5

Paul Diggin

England

1

0

0

0

5

Soane Tonga'uiha

Tonga

1

0

0

0

5

Dylan Hartley

England

1

0

0

0

5

Lee Dickson

England

1

0

0

0

I am no expert on Saracens' week by week selection policy (or latest injuries), but I expect their team to look something like this:

15. Alex Goode
14. Kameli Ratovou
13. Adam Powell
12. Brad Barritt
11. Rodd Penney
10. Glen Jackson
9. Justin Marshall

1. Matias Aguero
2. Schalk Brits
3. Petrus du Plessis
4. Hugh Vyvyan
5. Tom Ryder
6. Jacques Burger
7. Andy Saull
8. Ernst Joubert


Replacements

16. Fabio Ongoro
17. Kas Lealamanua
18. Richard Skuse
19. Mouritz Botha
20. Justin Melck
21. Neil de Kock
22. Derick Hougaard
23. Michael Tagicakibau

With a slightly better knowledge of Saints selections I think our team will be:

15 Ben Foden
14 Chris Ashton
13 Jon Clarke
12 James Downey
11 Bruce Reihana
10 Stephen Myler
9 Lee Dickson
1 Soane Tonga'uiha
2 Dylan Hartley
3 Euan Murray
4 Mark Easter
5 Juandre Kruger
6 Courtney Lawes
7 Phil Dowson
8 Roger Wilson

Replacements
16 Brett Sharman
17 Regardt Dreyer
18 Brian Mujati
19 Ignacio Fernandez Lobbe
20 Neil Best
21 Alan Dickens
22 Shane Geraghty
23 Joe Ansbro

Following a gutsy performance by the rotated squad at Bath on Tuesday night, where the Rec Residents expected to blow us away, the returnees will want to write their names on the shirts with permanent ink

Large on the Sarries board has expressed a wish that "win lose or draw, I hope Sarries kick the living daylights out of Saints at Uphill Gardeners next Saturday" A particularly Large-like piece of bravado but I fear he will continue to live in hype.

Close. Saints by 6.

News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
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Date: 22/04/2010 00:41

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Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: hoddros (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 05:54

Thanks David, great preview.

A couple of weeks ago I suggested on here that Soane may be rested for this game, I still think he might be. As you stated the Sarries front row will be hyped up for this game, and don't need any inflaming comments from Large to make things worse.

Let us hope nothing silly goes on.

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: SaintDidge (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 06:16

I've thought about whether Tiny would play or not but a couple of issues make me think he will. Firstly, he didn't start on Tuesday therefore was kept fresh for this game. Then there is the individual factor; would the player want to take that step back from a challenge? Well one thing we know about Tiny is that he doesn't go backwards very often.

I do believe that the conversation will have taken place between Tiny and the coaches but I reckon he's a nailed on cert to start.

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: StBleach (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 06:58

Nice job Dave..

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 07:04

Excellent preview - will Bruce feature given he played at Bath? 3 game sin 8 days might be asking a bit much even of the legend that is Bruce?

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: lilyg (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 07:25

Excellent - cant wait!

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: Ian Spokes (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 07:54

Thanks David

Actually I would expect Tiny to be an absolute 'cert' for this game.

Why do you think Mark Easter will start in the second row - do you know something?

And is Steve Borthwick is injured? Sarries line out last week was terrible.

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Date: 22/04/2010 09:23

Borthwick is targetting the Leicester game as a return. The line-out's problems were mainly as Brits couldn't hit a barn door so having him wouldn't improve that much - he's still not twenty feet tall!

The real question is to who starts at Fly half for us. If its Hougaard then you will see more kicking (though not as much as before), where as Glen Jackson runs the ball more. Either way I expect you'll see both at some point in the afternoon.

I'm afraid work commitments mean I'm missing this one in person, should be a great match though!

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: Corny (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 11:13

Is Geraghty's potential game time restricted by his 80 minutes on Tuesday?

One thing we know for sure is that Sarries will have to chase the win. Could be an interesting afternoon!

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: Stockers (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 11:32

Good and balanced preview Dave.

Dylan will need his biggest and most disciplined game of this season to keep Brits under wraps.

Dowse will need to sit on Saull from minutes 1 to 80.

Don't give the ball to Goode

Clean out their line out please Juandre.

Front row.....do them up front!

COME ON YOU SAINTS!!!

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: Connorman (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 12:33

Mark Easter at 4?

Good preview, mate.

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: Ben Johnson (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 12:51

Nice one David.
If Large thinks our boys are going to sit there any take ANY sort of kicking on OUR patch, in front of OUR fans, then he's probably been in the pub too long.
We have the squad to win this.
May the best team win, fairly and squarely. Saints by 9.

Come On You Saints

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: Howlin (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 16:45

Good one mate. Close game indeed. Come on you Saints !

Saint til I die

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 17:34

Nice preview. For all the talking up of this game, I suspect it will not alter the course of events that much as Tiggs and yourselves are almost nailed on for the top two, and we are withi a breath of a guaranteed third or fourth.
Making a statement of intent for the semi-final is probably our realistic aim.
I suspect much will depend on how our scrum goes- in recent weeks it has been a big concern.

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: Robby Richmond (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 17:47

I never thought it possible to find a fly half who kicks the ball more than Glen Jackson....

then sarries did it!

who is Jacksons replacement? Ronan O'Gara?

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: derbyshire fan (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 20:11

Good preview - very fair; I think Sarries are coming with every intentino of winning - we came pretty close in the LV= semi, and we've had a few more games since then to put our running game into gear. I think Saturday will be a fantastic advertisment for running rugby, with a total game score of 80 points or more!

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: St. Andy (IP Logged)
Date: 22/04/2010 22:29

Uphill Gardeners Hmm.So while the allegations of racism at saracens remains unsubstantiated. Here is proof that homophobia is alive and well and I would add this comment to their site if I could find it.

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Date: 23/04/2010 00:02

Andy, three points;

1) Allegations were never even made, let alone substantiated. Rumour and here-say should not be thrown around without thought, it is damaging to the game as a whole and to all concerned. This sites guidelines are here and here.

2) One member's comment supplied without context in no way represents the views of the poster, their fellow board members or the club they support.

3) The Saracens board is here; anyone is welcome at any time. (Sm128)

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: Undersizedprop (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2010 02:00

To be fair I don't think any context justifies that comment. There really has been a lot of silliness going on between the two sets of fans.

You will see a nice open game of rugby in front of fanatical supporters in a great stadium at the weekend. I'm sure Saracens will play their part, but I hope and expect Saints to win. You won't see Easter at 4 though.



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Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: SaintsDuncan (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2010 09:48

"3) The Saracens board is here; anyone is welcome at any time."

not strictly true in my experience...

Re: News: Match Preview Saints v Saracens
Posted by: St. Andy (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2010 16:54

Quote:
Haslam
Andy, three points;
1) Allegations were never even made, let alone substantiated. Rumour and here-say should not be thrown around without thought, it is damaging to the game as a whole and to all concerned. This sites guidelines are here and here.

2) One member's comment supplied without context in no way represents the views of the poster, their fellow board members or the club they support.

3) The Saracens board is here; anyone is welcome at any time. (Sm128)

To reply to you points.

1) Enough said on that matter, I could say more but I wont.

2) Sorry dont get your point, this is a homophobic comment from a high profile Saracens supporter. I never said all Saracens fans were homophobes or that the club is. Large is at Saracens and has made a homophobic comment.

3) I know where the board is I meant the comment. Oh and SaintsDuncan is correct.

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