'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1


By Grockle et al
August 7 2017

After the T20 yesterday we return to Championship after 56 days of 'summer' today.  Deep grey clouds and rain possible.  Old hands return after self imposed exiles because of the short form stuff and some of our Boys get back into their seasons.  This is a BIG game.

v SURREY @ Taunton Monday 7 August 2017

Commentary

Match Centre

Welcome back to the foud day format on a day that seems like the end of April.  Some of the Championship supporters said that this morning felt like the start of another season.

The Somerset side is;

Trescothick, Byrom, Rouse, Hildreth, Abell, Davies S, Allenby, Overton C, Groenewald, Leach, Bess

Surrey decide to not take the toss and put us in.  The weather suggests it should be raining, but the wet stays away and more coming up moves around us so we get a whole first session.  The pitch is very slow and the Surrey opening attack are on the money.  Marcus operates the same way he did at Scarborough, he runs defence for Eddie keeping the strike against the early ball and is on 20 when i arrive at 11:15 with Byrom on 3.  By the time Meaker comes in and gets Banger caught by Borthwick on 26, Eddie is on 15 and has settled to the task.  43 for 0 becomes 46 for 3 as Tim Rouse slaps a loose short and wide Rikki Clarke one and then James gets possibly the best ball of the morning first up and wanders back for a duck.  Tom looks confident from his first off the mark boundary and Eddie is settled.  Together they take the county to lunch at 92 and the game is back on quite an even keel.

After lunch Batty resumes at the River a spell he started the innings before lunch.  Eddie sweeps him third ball but takes it a step too far too early.  He's up the wicket ball four looking to nurdle the ball, misses it and is bowled.  96 for 4 goes over the three figure mark with the help of Steve Davies.  The objective of the afternoon spell is to accumulate.  Tom keeps it calm and moves the score on when required.  His 50 comes off 101 balls with 9 fours and the 150 arrives in the 47th over with Steve looking like real class at times against his old side.

On the two men go as Surrey work hard but don't give the Somerset batsman too many worries.  The 100 partnership comes at 198, the 200 follows and Steve Davies passes 50 for only the second time at 207 from 81 balls with 4 fours and a massive 'Hello Gareth' six off Somerset's favourite opposition bowler.

Stevereaches his previous best CC1 score (59 v Yorkshire) for Somerset at 220 before passing it.  This is by far the best score from Tom  this season.  The men walk in at 234 for 4 at Tea.  Excellent work from both men.  Tom has 88 and Steve has 68.  Both needed this spell and both have played well for their runs today.  It's been hard work for the Surrey men but the patience shown by both the hiome batsmen has been exemplary.

 

 

 

 

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'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockles.com (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 14:30

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Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 13:39

It always seems sensible that we welcome a club for home games in more than 1 format at the same time to save time and money. It rarely happens these days.

At 2:30 this afternoon we start 5 days against the Browncaps with the T20 followed by the CC1 game from tomorrow. A friend of mine saw the visitors during the week and defined them as 'rubbish' at this format.

I suppose we'll see quite soon at our 18th 'sold out' home short format game. I'm quite looking forward to seeing some Gimblett Hill stalwarts tomorrow who don't travel for the T20's. It has been a while people.

The 14 man squad for today includes van Meerkeen for the first time in a while so that might be interesting, the others are;

Davies S
Myburgh
Waller
Abell
Leask
Bess
Trego
Allenby
Overton C
Groenewald
Hildreth
Gregory
van der Merwe



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 14:23

Leask, Bess and Trigger lose out as we are unchanged from Friday.



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 15:01

To judge from the commentary it sounds as if Leask or Bess might have been a good pick, perhaps instead of Tim G.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 15:49

158 needed. Interesting score on our pitch. Hope Steve and Tom get a bit of a belt before tomorrow and that Johann keeps the momentum going with some over the buildings belts. But you never know..... 8 an over.



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 16:15

Nothing hopeful for Steve and they have to do it without Johann today if at all.



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 16:32

Another embarrassing capitulation it would seem 49-5 after 8.4

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 16:43

Yep. Doesn't look like anyone us going to be celebrating much today except our 'told you so' crowd. We don't even seem to be losing wickets at the proper run rate.



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 16:50

Hildreth and Roelof giving it a good go now though!
111-5, 47 off 7 needed



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 16:54

Yeah, I'm in the Grockle "told you so crowd", and I will tell you that we are going to win this.



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 17:11

Well, what a second half to the innings.
Well done lads, sorry I doubted you there for a moment!

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 17:11

Well, that worked out pretty satisfactorily in the end.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 17:11

Oh me of little faith! Well done James once again with Craig offering excellent back-up. Seems our Surrey friends lost their composure a little.



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 17:12

“Get behind the team and support them.”

I told you we were going to beat the Brown Caps – never in doubt.

Oh ye of little faith.

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A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 17:27

Well, that's good news anyway.

Now, back to the more important stuff tomorrow.....

Grizzzly

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 17:35

Interesting thread from top to bottom.

Looks like a good win, in second place after today's win.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 17:55

A good consistent campaign from James and Craig. Some others will still have questions over them tomorrow morning. Steve has shown some smatterings but is he more in tune now. Marcus has had nothing for quite a while and Tom is still a doubt. Lewis has answered some questions asked of him but any of the young players introduced before the short format stuff will all be back at the starting point again.

Lots of anticipation about the game on Monday now.



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 18:02

Wow, that must've been exciting if everyone stayed. There's nothing like a thrilling match at Taunton for getting the crowd going and I bet they just loved this one. I can only imagine that we are trying to build for the future when we don't play Tregs.

We seem to capitulate away so hopefully we can book this trend, but fortunately all remaining matters seem to be at home. Anyway well done to the team today

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 18:10

Spinners, I think, the primary key to this win. Strong efforts from both VDM and Max. Plus, of course, Timmy G getting rid of Finch was potentially pivotal.

A good win.

I don't approve, though, of picking Tom A for this format. I think he's just been shoehorned in to try to "re-integrate him," with the first team, rather than because he has any real aptitude for the format.

There are two possible problems with that:

1) It makes the team less likely to win the match (on balance)....

2) More importantly, in the context of what they are trying to achieve with Tom, it risks undermining his confidence which may have been somewhat restored by dint of runs made in the seconds.

Incidentally, in terms of confidence, I was thinking that S Davies had finally found decent form, but then he's promptly put successive ducks on the board in the last two. A good score from Hildreth so that should help with his confidence ahead of tomorrow.

It already looks like there will be results in all three other games in this round, making it even more imperative that we beat the Brown Caps in the key fixture that starts tomorrow.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 18:13

SCCC site says Lewis won't play any further four day games this year !

Of course, his well being must come first and I hope he can get the treatment he needs soon, but we needed that news like a hole in the head.

Jamie also still out, which is disappointing. Jim Allenby is in the squad, despite (according to him) being told he won't/is most unlikely feature next season, whilst PT isn't even mentioned.

All very curious.

Tom recalled as Captain. Wish him well, but we surely have a mountain to climb tomorrow and for the rest of the season.

Grizzzly



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 18:14

As for the turn-around in the second half of our innings?

Let's face it, we have form for doing this at home to Surrey and they have form for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory here.

Indeed, that's the third successive occasion, in three different formats in games at Taunton that Surrey have appeared to be on top in the decisive innings of a match, and the Surrey record in such games reads "played three, lost three."

Roelof an important part of the turn-around in consecutive matches vs the Brown Caps.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 18:21

Awful news viz LG - truly dreadful.

I think it's fairly clear that Peter Trego is finished at Somerset unless the powers that be elect to terminate the employment of one M Maynard, esq...

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 18:21

They must hate the sight of RvdM walking out. 201 runs against them this season. Will he walk out again tomorrow?. He turned this game by the 8th over I didn't think we had enough to turn it but keep forgetting how good Craig can be when he gets his eye in. James has haf a good T20 up to now.



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 18:30

So, if I were forced to select and XI and allowed to pick only from the squad handed to me by Matthew Maynard (which is as below) then I think I would select the following:

Maynard's squad:

Marcus Trescothick, Eddie Byrom, Tim Rouse, James Hildreth, Tom Abell (c), Steve Davies (wk), Jim Allenby, Craig Overton, Roelof van der Merwe, Dom Bess, Jack Leach, Tim Groenewald, Paul van Meekeren.

My XI

Tres
Eddie
Tim
JH
SD
Tom
Cove
Roelof
Jack
Tim
Dom

I was all for picking LG at six and not taking the gamble with just a two front-line seamer attack, even if we do succeed in producing a spinning top. But with LG out and Peter Trego not available for selection in this squad, I've elected to rely on Tom as the third seamer, rather than Jim.

I suspect that what Matthew will actually do is leave Tim Rouse out, bat Tom at three and play Jim at six. But Jim has demonstrated often enough, for me, that he's not a top six batsman at CC1 level.

The other option is a really long lower order in which Craig/Roelof bat six and seven and then the Meerkat can be included - interesting to note that he appears, now, to have moved ahead of Josh Davey. With Josh out of contract at season's end, a poor sign indeed for him, that he can't get in the squad when both LG and JO are out.

We must hope that Jamie will *finally* be fit when Chelmsford rolls around.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 18:49

I didn't see that coming at 47-5. Well done to vdM, Cove and - especially - JH.

I agree with AG about not picking Abell in this format. An out of form hitter has a puncher's chance of hitting a few boundaries, but I can't see a touch player being able to recover form in the frenzied atmosphere of a T20 match.

JH has amply disproved, this season, that he is not a T20 player.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 18:54

Having to go in without either Lewis or Jamie is distinctly bad news, but not insuperable.
Also something of an added inducement to opt for a spin-friendly wicket.
I agree with AG's XI, given the 14 we have to choose from. Even if choosing from the full squad I would probably go for the same XI, desperately sad as I would be to leave out Peter Trego.
One or two hypotheticals which I very much hope don't come to pass - suppose Tom doesn't get runs in either innings of this match, do we keep him for the next one? And if not, who captains in Lewis' absence?
And if SD doesn't either, what then?
I have seen no updates on Jamie's situation on the SCCC website, has anyone any idea how he's progressing?
Is this the greatest number of question marks ever seen in a Grockles post?

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 19:23

Jamie has been going through fitness training, he told me he was bored not playing.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 19:24

Well if he's nearly right then he, surely, will be ready for Chelmsford.

I imagine fitness training but not playing is, indeed, utterly mind-numbing.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 19:33

Personally I would have put Tom Abell on 'gardening leave' until the end of the season.

He seems to be a very pleasant young man, but being given the captaincy (whether he sought it or not) before having established himself over the past couple of seasons as a competent and consistent batter, has IMO been too much for him.

From what I have seen of him, he has led the team very well, but for whatever reason his batting has declined embarrassingly. He has had a few reasonable scores in the Seconds, but from what I have gleaned he hasn't exactly set the world on fire.

It's a parlous situation. If we play him, he will have to resume the captaincy. If he plays and fails again with the bat, it can only further damage his state of mind. Should he play, and score buckets full of runs and lead the side well, then all is well.

But is he up to such pressure especially as we are desperately fighting relegation?

In an ideal world, I would say get yourself ready physically, technically and mentally for 2018. Whatever Division we are in next year (and I can't envisage it being anything other than Div. 2) the club should rally round to help him become the best player he can be, and if this means finding someone else to lead the side next year, then that is what will have to happen.

But, as we all know, we do not live in an ideal world.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 19:53

Gregory out is an issue on more than one level but you have to work with what you have I suppose.

Picking Tom today seemed to make no real sense as Wickham suggests, getting runs in a chase like that isn't real prep for anything other than getting runs in a chase. In the end it became no prep at all if they expect to pick him tomorrow.

We may need our new international to come up with something. Anyone got any news? If I can make the buses and hobble into Taunton I'll see what I can get from people at the ground tomorrow.

We are still in the T20 with a significant shout but tomorrow is the ONLY important game in the next week. Our one objective in 2017 is to remain in CC1.

NOTHING else matters.

I'm going to leave this here as the CC1 thread as well. If I can get into the ground this week I will put a frontpage on it for that game. Please keep stuff on this thread. I'll simply merge any other threads into this one.



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Some of the biggest matches coming up in Somerset history
Posted by: DeanSwift (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 19:51

and we decide to rest one of our best bowlers?

poor Lewis Gregory

You also ask the following

Why has Lewis Gregory been made unavailable for the rest of the County Championship this season?



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 20:14

Lewis Gregory being not available must be to do with his back, he may have been advised not to play any more until he has had his OP.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 20:16

But it's only four day is ir not? He is still OK for T20?



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 20:32

That's what we must assume given what they have said, yes.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Roger ivanhoe (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 20:33

Peter Trego not selected for tomorrows game.Completely out of favour.

Mail out tonight shows Van de Merwe and Van Meekeran missing in 11 stated.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 20:35

I don't understand, Roger, do you mean they've sent out a list of an XI for tomorrow already? That's what it says on tomorrow's scorecards you mean?

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 20:47

Oh, I get it Mail as in name of paper.

I read mail-out and I thought surely we're not sending out details of the XI the day before the match!

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Roger ivanhoe (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 20:51

AGod, we 1875 and Long Room members have a pre match mail out, amongst which shows a picture of the 11 named shirts.

Of course it might change overnight.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 20:58

Ah!

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 21:00

Personally, I think that if we were to leave out for VDM and PVM then that would represent too defensive a team selection for a must-win game.

Besides, Surrey would surely be pleased if we were to omit VDM..

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 21:01

I tend to think that CP's view of 19.33 re Tom is pretty much on the mark.

I'll be very happy indeed if he gets a ton.

Grizzzly

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 21:04

Tom's collapse in form at Taunton coincided with the change in nature of home tracks, rather than with the award of the captaincy.

However the extra demands of being leader must be a time-suck, the opportunity cost of which is more time to spend on his own game (trying to figure out how to adjust his game to the turning tracks).

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 21:08

Weren't there comments about technical issues as well at the start of the season?



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 21:20

Sorry to ask but is a time-suck a technical issue with Tom's batting.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 06/08/2017 21:32

Is a time-suck something that has happened to the English language since I learned it (like, e.g., a selfie)?

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 00:06

Fantastic win.
All the sweeter being Surrey and them having it win at 47/5.
Hildy RVDM & Craig just superb. Played the situation to percection.
So easy 5 down to block. Let rate climb to 12/14s then game is gone.
Our approach was spot on and RVDM & Craig hit 2 monsters OVER the Caddick pavilion.....

Poor Gareth, he cant enjoy Taunton too much. He thre a tantrum when a Clarke ct behind appeal was refused and given wide. Appeared he had a telling off from the umpire but bad behaviour from that nasty man something we are quite used to.....

Shame it appears the weather is going to scupper mostof days 1&2 this week. Really need an old 2 day bunsen burner to aid a positive result from this one.....

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 03:19

T20 Taunton 6th August 2017

Surrey 157-6 (20.0 overs) Somerset 158-6 (18.2/20.0 overs)

Another full house although as always with full houses there were small groups of empty seats in the Trescothick and Somerset Stands. The lower deck of the Somerset Pavilion was tight packed, mainly with County Championship age members including, for a change in this form of cricket, me. The family stand bristled with furry headbands and inflatable batons and the temporary stand was pretty well full. I had time to count another 42 watching from the flats including a good impersonation of a row of parrots on a perch at the front of the roof terrace. It was a crowd that buzzed in anticipation of another classic game. I am not sure it was a classic but it certainly held the attention and as far as I could see no-one left.

The buzz settled a bit as Surrey got off to a solid start especially after three successive boundaries in van Meekeren’s first over. 30-0 off 3 overs was not though running away with the game in a T20 powerplay and Roy seemed to be struggling to get the ball away. Two boundaries off Groenewald’s first over started to raise the anxiety in Somerset hearts but then Finch tried for a boundary too many. 39-1 off 4 overs. Overton followed up perfectly by tying Roy up and then bowling him with a perfect length arrow straight ball that went straight through his cross batted shot and upended the middle stump. Is there a sight in cricket to match that of a middle stump heading for the keeper?

The crowd were buzzing again and then cheering as Stoneman looked bamboozled by a Waller leg-break which pitched middle and hit the left-handers’s leg stump. I had the perfect view of the perfect leg-break. If Waller had developed such a ball as his stock ball over the years he might have found himself playing in the Championship today. From my seat behind the arm it looked a thing of beauty. I am still replaying it in my mind. 53-3 in the seventh and the game was in the balance. Somerset pegging back Surrey’s solid start. The Family Stand celebrated with its own private Mexican wave for it went no further but was as exuberant as any full blown Mexican Wave you will see. A Mexican wave celebrating good cricket. Now there’s a thing.

Now the fielders started to play their part seemingly missing nothing. Myburg diving hard and long to his left at mid-wicket to stop a fierce drive in its tracks. Abell racing in the deep to intercept two strokes marked for the boundary. All the time Somerset’s rotating bowlers keeping things as tight as they can be kept in a T20. 69-3 off 10 is almost miraculous for the bowling side. The PA announcer gave another turn to the screw, “At the current run rate Surrey will score 138 off their 20 overs.” Both batsmen, Pope and Henriques perhaps jolted, looked simultaneously at the scoreboard.

An impression was beginning to build though at least in my mind. Perhaps batting was not quite as easy as it might be. Perhaps the pitch not quite as easy as it could be. The batsmen were not batting with quite the freedom associated with T20. Too many balls were finding the fielders. Though sometimes the fielders, the inner ring in particular, were finding the ball with some exceptional stops. Not always, Overton once ran in from the Colin Atkinson boundary for one of those ‘is it a catch or isn’t it’ lofted balls off Waller’s bowling, finally opted to save the boundary only for the ball to spin viciously off the turf back past him in the direction he had run around from.

Now Henriques and Pope started to get the measure of the pitch. Henriques rotating the strike and Pope hitting out. Pope perfectly scooped one from Overton for four and then only just dug out a fearsome yorker the next ball. Those two balls perhaps exemplifying the tussle between bat and ball that was developing. Only the best would do. The fielders too straining every sinew. Myburg a brilliant diving stop at backward point. Abell once running impossibly far along the front of the Family and Alcohol Free Stands in front of the Ondatjee Pavilion to dive full length for a catch only just failing by inches but getting enough hand on it to prevent four. The two stands applauded him all the way back to his mark. This was battle royal. By the end of the 15th Surrey were 113-3. Hardly riches but a growing recovery against all the Somerset pressure and Pope was looking dangerous.

Cometh the hour cometh Roelf van de Merwe. Pope charged him, missed, Davies took it cleanly and the bails were off. Cue relieved cheering for Pope’s had been the innings of the match so far. 46 off 31 balls. He had been the only Surrey batsman seemingly capable of taking on the Somerset attack with profit. It occurred to me though there had been no sixes and getting the ball to the boundary had not looked easy for anyone. When Henriques fell to Gregory trying for the boundary Surrey were 123-5 in the 17th. Sam Curran made no headway as Somerset closed in removing him for 3. 135-6 in the 18th.

157-6 at the close was due to Rikki Clarke, to my mind, deciding to play within the pitch’s capacities. He started to hit the ball softly to the deep field initially for a brace of twos. He and Tom Curran settled for rotating the strike and the score might not have passed 150 but for a slightly ragged final over from Gregory which included a wide and the first 6 of the innings from Curran.

“We can do this can’t we?” someone asked me not with an entirely confident tone. I wasn’t sure. 158 in T20 these days is usually within range of a chase. I was worried though that the pitch, whilst not holding any demons might not be letting the ball come onto the bat. It had not looked easy hitting boundaries and I did wonder if Surrey had actually played quite a clever game, kept their heads and posted a tricky total.

The people in the flats must have thought there was a game on for by now there were approaching 80 people watching from the balconies and the roof terrace. One for every 100 in the ground. There was a real hubbub about the place as some stretched their legs for there is not much time to do anything else in the interval of a T20 match. A queue of precisely four furry headed children waited for balloons to be twisted into animals and a couple of others passed by with theirs already made. The queue for hot drinks and pies in the back of the Somerset Pavilion was more like twenty long and the queue at the bar in the car park about half a dozen.

Steven Davies did not really answer the question about the pitch for he turned his first legitimate ball straight into the hands of short fine leg. 2-1. Two ducks have now followed his brief renaissance and this looked all too like his early season form. Gregory struggled against Dernbach playing to deep point with a stroke which seemed not to be timed and then edged much more quickly through the empty first slip for four. Next he tried to cut but played over the ball which had perhaps not bounce as much as he was anticipating.

Sam Curran followed up by knocking Myburg off his feet with a spearing yorker before Gregory finally middle a pull for four, the first really clean stroke of the innings off its 10th ball. Off the last ball of the over Gregory tried to hit the ball into the Botham Stand only to get under it and sky it well short of the boundary and the approaching fielder. Dernbach was mixing pace, line and length in as many combinations of those three things as it is possible to do until Myburg popped one up and wide of mid-off but not wide enough. Allenby could only defend his first four from Sam Curran, then square drove beautifully for four, took a single for the strike, could not score off the first three from Tom Curran before lifting the fourth to Finch. This was either hard work or Somerset were making heavy weather of it.

Myburg and Allenby had both gone to what I tend to call slow pitch catches at least when they keep happening in the same innings. Neither got hold of an aggressive shot which looped to the fielder. Now Gregory got under one from Clarke and Abell pulled one straight to midwicket. All five wickets caught. At least four with insufficient power in the shot due to being miss hit. Why, I have always wondered and it is not only Somerset that do this, do batsmen having seen the other side struggle to get the ball away and their own side looping catches continue in the same mode? Easy to be wise from beyond the boundary I suppose. A bit harder against a rising required run rate. Harder still to recover from 47-5. Dernbach and the Currans it has to be acknowledged had bowled with considerable skill and even greater effect and in my view Dernbach’s first three overs in this match were as good as you will see in T20 cricket.

Somerset all batted in the same mode, that is until Hildreth established himself. Not without a couple of alarums. He was dropped early off a not too difficult chance and he was perilously close again with a reverse sweep. After that he played with a mixture of placement in front of the wicket and, particularly, with deft deflections behind the wicket especially on the off side. Again and again as the ball came through, the bat angled and the ball travelled Hildreth’s chosen route. It was a joy to watch. I trust in the Championship match he remembers there will be slips in place. Here it was a match turning performance.

Somerset were 47-5 at the start of the ninth over. Hildreth’s deflections kept him well ahead of a run a ball but they also gave van de Merwe and then Overton the strike. The result was explosive and decisive. Off 38 balls they scored 71 runs. The join between the Hildreth van de Merwe partnership and the Hildreth Overton partnership seamless. They hit five sixes to Surrey’s one. No sign of a slow pitch now. Even one or two of the members who had seen cricket before the Gillette Cup were singing along to “Sweet Caroline” and there was not a seat to be had in the lower deck of the Somerset Pavilion or a face anywhere that I could see without a smile. The person a couple of seats along from me, looking astonished at what he was seeing asked where one of Overton’s sixes had gone. It had gone straight over the top of the Caddyshack and the pitch was dead centre for this match. Whether he saw Roelof van de Merwe’s head off in the same direction I don’t know.

The crowd had stayed to the end. 47-5 had not daunted them or they were just having a good time or both. The only section of the crowd that seemed to have stayed away in numbers were the seagulls. Normally circling as a match comes to a close the few that were visible stayed pretty well beyond the perimeter even of the Trescothick Stand. Perhaps they were daunted by 8000 cheering people or perhaps they had seen Overton’s huge six and decided discretion was the better part of valour.

Not for the first time Surrey had a game at Taunton as good as wrapped up only to find the wrapping unravelling before their eyes or when Overton and van de Merwe were on strike being torn to shreds. Somerset were home with ten balls to spare. “I never thought that would happen,” said the woman next to me. I don’t think anyone did at 47-5. Many more games like this and the people who own the flats will have a little more equity in them than they thought. At the very least 80 of them and their visitors had had quite an afternoon. So had we all if the bubbling throng that left the ground was anything to go by. Even the sun, which had stayed resolutely behind the clouds for most of the match, came out to watch those last two partnerships.

There is something deep in the heart of this Somerset team that sometimes stands up to be counted when backs are hardest against the wall. It appears as if from nowhere and when it does it is formidably invincible. When it shows itself it can leave the opposition stunned. It happened in the County Championship in those nailbiting matches at the end of last season, not least against Surrey. It happened against Surrey in the Royal London Cup earlier this season. It happened again yesterday.

I will sleep more easily this week if we do not try to rely upon it once too often against Surrey. Three times in succession is testing it, and my nerves, far enough.

The folk concert I went to in the heart of the Quantocks after the match was much more restful.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 04:48

Nocturnal eloquence indeed FW.

I shall sleep soundly tonight having read your delightful and atmospheric report.

Grizzzly

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 06:25

I assume it's the local forecast that is so dire, WSM?

For once, let's hope the crummy Met Office are right.

Their forecast?

Not too bad at all.

It indicates some temporary disruption today around lunchtime, but otherwise mainly dry.

Tomorrow, it suggests play may be questionable from mid-afternoon onwards.

So if they are actually right, then we can probably expect to get 60-70% of play in over the first couple of days.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 08:52

Weather forecasts! The forecast for Newcastle is partly sunny all day with sunshine at present. It is hammering down.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 09:15

Thank you Grizzly. Weather does not look too eloquent this morning although not raining at the moment a few miles from the ground.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: cricketharris (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 09:31

Go on like that, Farmer White, and you'll be allowed a free seat in the media room.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 09:39

Thank you cricketharris. But is there any atmosphere up there I wonder? To my mind cricket without atmosphere is like a scone without the cream.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 11:17

Did we know that Sanga would be absent?

I consider out team selection to have been a tad too defensive, to be honest. I'd rather have seen VDM in the line-up instead of Jim. I've no doubt that Surrey would rather see the Aussie than the Saffer, given recent events against them.

Still, I suppose the sight of Timmy G and Jack may bring them out in hives. I am glad that Tim Rouse has kept his place.

I've just heard that Surrey sent us in - is that right?

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 11:20

Yep, no toss, Surrey chose to bowl

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 11:23

Thanks, Rod.

Our friend Mr Batty must be anticipating one of the following then:

a) The track will do lots up front.

b) The track will get easier as the match goes on, no matter what it does or doesn't do first up.

c) There is little chance of the track taking sharp turn or, if it does, that will be outweighed by the advantage of early life for the seamers.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 11:34

I see they've picked Meaker who is usually either brilliant or utterly useless, with little in between. Let's hope for the latter in this one.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 11:43

Not enough from Tresco, really, unless - perhaps - this does prove a very low-scoring game.

And Meaker will, presumably, have his tail up already.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 11:52

If you don't understand time-suck you ought to 'step up to the plate'

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 11:58

A familiar shambles hoves into view with the all-too-familiar failure of the senior batsmen - the failures that have dominated this entire CC season.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 11:58

More plate stepping required by Tim Rouse

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:02

Tough to do that from the pavilion.

It's Tom with Eddie that need to do that now.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:09

So not just the senior batsmen then.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:13

The senior players (batsmen) are the ones that have been failing all year, which was what I said. Their returns have been truly awful, Dean Elgar apart.

Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Following on (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:28

Yorkshire are trying to make our batting efforts look acceptable and drag themselves into the relegation dog fight in the process.

Yorkshire 0-2 in their second innings, trailing by 118.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:32

Yorkshire are an utter shambles with the bat - pathetic, really.

I wonder if Jason Gillespie saw what was coming and bailed for that reason or whether Dizzy really is that good compared to what has succeeded him?

And yes, Following On, if not for the fact that we've been so poor with the bat and Warks so poor with both bat and ball, then Yorks would be right in the hunt to go down. As it is, with the way we and Warks have been playing, 30 points looks a fair cushion with only six games to go.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:35

Lancs also look wobbly, and with Hants having Fidel Edwards back to go with Kyle Abbott, I'd think Lancs will lose to Hants, most likely.

Warks - Middx currently looks as close as it was in the last round of matches, between those two sides, with Middx not looking particularly clever either.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:36

The weather IS heading our way. There are low and obviously rain filled clouds moving down the valley from Minehead towards the ground - it is starting to move diagonally so we may be lucky. If it doesn't miss us it will be a looong break. But they started on time.

Marcus was solid but the scoring is slow Eddie has face 69 balls for his 25. Marcus looked solid and then was out.... Tim didn't really stay to bother anyone and James walked out and then walked back in.

Very overcast and a smattering of a crowd. BUT there is play.



(Sm72)

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:38

The fact that Clarke has the best figures might imply that this deck suits guys who hit the deck hard/from height (at least thus far).

No good for Allenby, nor much good for TG but would of course be potentially great news for Cove if it's the type of deck that, for some reason, offers more to your hit the deck type than your kiss the surface type.

FWIW, the Met Office has changed its forecast to remove the threat of lunchtime rain (presumably it might slip past) but they say rain from 5 or so.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:42

I suspect Sangakkara making 12 runs for the Jamaica Tallawahs as they won in Florida yesterday was a good clue he wouldn't be playing for Surrey, as was the presence of two Aussies in the Surrey team yesterday.

And Rikki Clarke. Always seems to do well at Taunton.



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: brt1919 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:42

Well, it's the start that sadly we might have expected, but no game is lost on the first morning, especially given that our bowling is by far the strong point.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:44

Funnily enough, most peoole don't waste their time consulting scorecards for random T20 games in the Windies.

I don't particularly remember Clarke doing well. Chopra for Warks, yes. Clarke? Not particularly.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:45

Anyway, thus far Eddie B can surely take quite a bit of heart from his efforts this morning.

I wonder if the Pakistani signing has batted at three in the past/would be happy to do so? If it is deemed that the new guy *must* open then it may be Mr Trescothick that has to make way.



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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:53

At this rate, Yorkshire may be beaten by about 3pm.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:54

Caribbean Premier League. Surrey's Ravi Rampaul also playing.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:57

Anyway, if we can get this through to lunch then credit to Eddie and Tom and *maybe* we might get one or two more bonus points for batting than the rest have managed in this round of matches..

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 12:59

Beeb trying to claim Surrey's morning, but I'm not particularly sure why, unless the thought is that this track is basically a really good one for batting?

Track does sound slow, so we must hope that it's not going to be one of those tracks that just gets slower and slower as the game goes on.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 13:25

I've lost count of the number of times I've posted my benchmark of 120 for 3 at lunch. More runs is a batting balance,more wickets a bowling balance. I judge this to be even if we get to 120 for 3.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 13:31

But on most recent Taunton tracks, GM, 120 for 3 would put a team quite a long way ahead of the eight-ball (assuming they don't subsequently collapse in a heap). After all, the average score on these tracks has probably been no higher than 200 or so? (maybe less?)

Clearly, if this track gets flatter and flatter then 90 odd for 3 batting first at lunch isn't a great deal of use to us.

But if this proves to be a low-scoring match then there's every chance that Surrey will lose more than 3 wickets for their first 90 runs etc

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 14:10

Quote:
AGod
Yorkshire are an utter shambles with the bat - pathetic, really.
I wonder if Jason Gillespie saw what was coming and bailed for that reason or whether Dizzy really is that good compared to what has succeeded him?

And yes, Following On, if not for the fact that we've been so poor with the bat and Warks so poor with both bat and ball, then Yorks would be right in the hunt to go down. As it is, with the way we and Warks have been playing, 30 points looks a fair cushion with only six games to go.

All the more reason to rue that defeat from the jaws of victory against them back in June.
Obviously would have helped us, and dragged them into the mix.

I hope I'm wrong, but even if we win games, I can't see us getting enough batting points to escape.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 14:17

Yes, that was a potentially pivotal loss.

This must be Tom's longest home innings this season by some considerable distance.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 14:23

Sadly, Mybs says this is the same track as they used yesterday.

Says it was slow yesterday and likely to get slower and slower and slower.

If he's right then it won't be at all easy for us to get the result that we need.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 14:25

Perhaps it will turn?
Shame Mybs isn't playing.

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 14:35

Excellent, Tom - now make it really stick... we need a ton.

Mybs said he thought it would turn today, but it hasn't.

Apparently, this track was also used vs Notts for the one day QF.

So we've started the game on what amounts to a day three pitch.

As Mybs said quite a few tracks here have turned early in the match and then turned less as the game has gone on.

So it might be that, because this is a day three track, we've already missed the days that usually turn - who knows?

It would be hugely disappointing if we're playing on a pitch that isn't turning by what amounts to day seven though!!!

Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 14:37

Batty being treated with a certain measure of contempt by the sounds of it.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 15:15

This Surrey commentator has absolute verbal incontinence.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Monkey Butler (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 15:19

This is the first proper innings from Abell this season. His other knocks were when games were over as a contest. It's really good to see him back and firing, both he and Steven have played this perfectly by taking time to get in and then really up the strike rate.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 15:25

Little chance of Jove being fit until the final two CC matches, if then, as per Mybs.

He and LG both rather a worry, going forward. As well as the bowling has gone for much of this season, we probably need more pace bowling resources given the injury history of those two.

Beeb have studiously avoided asking Mybs anything about his future!



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 15:33

Where was Mybs saying this AG? He was in the press box earlier asking what the pitch was like to thank Ben for that assessment.

Jamie is coming along and is at the starting bowling stage it seems so Mybs assessement sounds about right.

Lewis says the injections stopped lasting long enough so they are working to get him to the end of the T20 and then he is going in to have it bolted together when it should be fine.



(Sm72)



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 15:33

What did he say about Jove AG ?

Grizzzly

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Tumbles (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 15:40

Well batted these two

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 15:41

He's on the comms (Mybs is)

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 15:51

I'm enjoying eating a lovely slice of Humble Pie re Tom Abell.

Hoping there is plenty more to come.....

Grizzzly

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 15:54

Yes, we need these two to bat for a very long time as it seems evident that the track is fairly dead.

Need to hope for full batting bonus points ... and that the track then falls apart on days 3 and 4 (which will be days 6 and 7 for this particular track).

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 16:11

Does seem a very odd choice then, when we need to win, to play on an old pitch when pitches do less and less as they get older?

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 16:14

So this pitch has had nothing done to it since then - it was suggested that they probably played on it last year as well so it may be a Day 250 pitch? The discussion with a Somerset spinner earlier suggested it was expected to take spin on Day 3 or 4

Rain is pretty heavy now and the covers are going on. We've been lucky up to now. It may have ended.



(Sm72)

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 16:24

Well, let us fervently hope that the "Somerset spinner," whoever he may be was spot on.

A shame for Tom and Steve that they will, probably, have to start again tomorrow morning.



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 16:53

Q & A session with MM has been brought forward to 5pm (heard it on the PA, as the Radio mic. has been left on !).

Any feedback from this would be most welcome from anyone who attends.

Grizzzly

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 17:05

The 'radio mic' effect wasn't that it had been left on. They had a problem with the PA and had a look at it in order to make sure the announcement was made. Seen a few walking over so any comments would be very much appreciated. Especially by those who had those bursting questions to ask about conspiracies, misinformation etc. Good opportunity to nail them down.

The pitch will have another inspection at 5:20 after a deluge. The outfield is very wet so it is highly likely that the match will be abandoned for the day.



(Sm72)

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 17:14

Fast bowler Stuart Meaker must be wondering what he has done to upset the Surrey hierarchy at Taunton this weekend.

Yesterday, when Surrey failed to accelerate towards the end of their innings and were then in desperate need of wickets as Somerset won with almost a full over to spare, he neither batted nor bowled.

Then today, as if itching to go, he claimed Marcus in his very first over, yet was only granted 11 more by Batty out of the 64 Surrey have bowled to date.

Good day for the Davies clan, though. While our Steven was scoring 68 not out, young Alex Davies at Lancashire contributed 97 to an opening partnership of 129 against Hampshire. Irony or ironies, Alex Davies is also keeping wicket although Jos Buttler is in the side - and has been doing so in the championship for some time.

Jos, who surely has no chance at the moment of replacing Bairstow in the England Test side, must be almost as upset as the more vocal of the Lancashire supporters are at his very mixed batting form of late. Will he still be at Old Trafford next season?

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 17:16

Damn, I left the ground assuming there would be no further play and not wanting to hang around two hours with a computer with a flat battery. If I'd known the Q&A session was rescheduled I'd have stayed.
In common, I'm sure, with everyone here (who isn't going to be there in person) I'd be very interested to know what transpires.
Outstanding and very sensibly paced innings from Tom today, against some very testing bowling early on - though Meaker bowled less well in his second spell and neither of the much-vaunted Currans were impressive. Interesting little spell from Borthwick riddled with horrible long-hops and full-tosses, but unexpectedly threatening when he got it in the right place (I think Tom had trouble picking his googly).
Eddie (till an unfortunate rush of blood) and Steve D also batted very well. Eddie does need to work on this unfortunate habit of getting out between 40 and 43.
Pitch seemed fairly slow with no great turn. I think Clarke's having the best figures were down to his being the best bowler on the day rather than the wicket suiting him.
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Re: Welcome to 'Surrey Week'
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 17:19

Quote:
AGod
I don't particularly remember Clarke doing well. Chopra for Warks, yes. Clarke? Not particularly.
2013, playing out time with the assistance of Ollie Hannon-Dalby and Nick Cook?
Last year, nearly taking them home in a 9th-wicket stand with Chris Wright just after you'd posted "Patel out, game over"?

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 19:13

2016: 74 runs in the match, 3 wkts - not bad

2015: 5 runs in the match, 3 wkts - mediocre at best.

2014: 125 runs, but zero wkts

2013: 92 runs, but zero wkts

2012: 6 runs, 2 wkts

So, before today, he had had some success with the bat on 3/5 occasions, although nothing earth-shattering and had been a virtual non-factor with the ball, at least over the previous five meetings. Certainly today would appear to be his most effective effort with the ball in recent times.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 19:15

Buttler may have given up on any Test hopes, in which case he might not really give a fig about Davies keeping wicket, CJM.

I doubt Bayliss cares very much whether Jos keeps for Lancs - let's face it, even if he were to lose the one-day gloves to Bairstow, Jos would still be likely to be a shoo-in for a place as a batsman anyway.

I'd imagine Jos will be happy enough so long as he keeps playing ODIs and being allowed to go off to the IPL.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 19:22

Good batting from Tom Abell and Steve Davies today. Thought the ball tended to keep low at times. A good knock too from Ed Byrom until a rush of blood brought about his downfall.

Marcus Trescothick out to a poor shot, a man of his experience should know better. Is he still motivated enough to succeed?

All told, a good day for the Cidermen.

When Davies reached his 50, he received generous applause from his old Surrey team mates, but when Tom Abell reached his, no Somerset players were evident on the balcony to applaud their captain. Speaks volumes for the club at present.

Saw Mickey Stewart and a few former Surrey players there today along with Richard Gould.

Rumours rife that Pete Trego has already left the club, but I see from the club's website that he is playing in our Seconds today.



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 19:43

I agree with everything in mikeindex's report.

Trescothick batted well until a ball from Meaker nipped away and caught the edge.

Some of Byrom's shots were reminiscent of Trescothick. A pity that he danced down the wicket and yorked himself immediately after lunch.

Abell batted as well as I have seen him play. I recall only a couple of false shots. I thought that he constructed his innings particularly well - he didn't chase runs, but waited for a bad ball and put it away. Steve Davies also played admirably.

It was pleasing that the numerous puerile shouts from the Surrey fielders (including numerous screech of "Rikki" and - aimed at Batty - "Come on g-string") came to a stop as the Abell/Davies partnership progressed.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 19:55

I'm very surprised to read that, Tom S, re: Tom A's 50.

Myburgh, on commentary, was very clear that there'd be an eruption from the SCCC balcony, should Tom A get his ton.

I have to say that whilst there are lots of rumours and so forth, the way the team is competing does not suggest that morale is low.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 20:03

@AG I think for some of us the memory of two massively impactful, game-changing (in one case, in the other nearly so) innings outweighs the cold statistical overview.
Well said, though, as regards the apparent competitive spirit.
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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 20:05

I couldn't say what the reaction from the Somerset balcony was to Tom's 50 as I, like most spectators, was looking at Tom in the middle and applauding.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: cricketharris (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 20:10

How sweet that 6 must have felt for Davies off the bowling of Batty especially accompanied by a few lesser boundries. Excellent second session today.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 20:19

Tom. That is factual nonsense and terribly innacurate and misleading.
Every single player was out on the balcony clapping and 2 or 3 down on bench by caddy shack.
Matt confirmed such when asked at Q+A as did one of the players i spoke to after. Plus i could see several from my spot low down in the CA pavilion.

Where were you sat to not be able to see such?

The players are right behind Tom and if he gets another 12 in the morning you'll be able to hear the players cheering him from Taunton high street!

The morale appears fine to me. We have a top group of players young and old fighting for each other.
To suggest otberwise again is nonsense.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 20:25

Any meaningful news come out of the Q and A session WSM

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 21:11

Trying desperately to remember Q&A. Pretty low key I thought.

GL/MM stated at the start the club are going through their annual cycle over contracts:

1) July - speak to players who's contracts are up and give them an indication of how they may stand but nothing definitive.
2) End August or thereabouts decide on contracts.
3) Around the end of the year tie up contracts of those who have contracts expiring in 2018.

This process takes place every year and this year's is no different.

Adam Hose and Daz Veness left the club entirely by their own decision.

Whilst the club is commited to competing in all competitions the club priority is the CC - staying in the First Division and winning it.

A significant slice of this year's profit will come from the T20 International.

The club remains and intends to remain one of the top three or four in terms of cash spent on player's salaries.

The club spends a higher proportion of its income on cricket than any other county.

In terms of keeping our best young players the club prioritises being a first tier club, having the best possible facilities etc

Floodlights money in place with the intention of installing in 2018-19 winter. 2017-18 winter will be used to do some current facilities 'housekeeping' because of the effort put into new developments in recent years.

There was a question at the end about 'problems' within the team and lack of applause for Tom Abell's 50. 'Problems' were firmly denied and MM seemed genuinely surprised at the point about players not applauding TA.

That is as far as my memory will stretch. Others may have things to add or may have remembered things differently (I didn't take notes and this comes from a deep trawl of a weary mind).

Guy Lavender leaves his post on Friday.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 21:11

Peter Trego not only playing for the Seconds at Taunton Vale today, Tom S, but captaining them. So perhaps the rumours are in the same category as the description of the Somerset players` balcony when Tom A reached his 50.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Roger ivanhoe (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 21:21

nelliec.

The various rumours floating around were rubbished off.
Did confirm that four players are out of contract in September [including Marcus]
The club will report a record profits this year.
MM when asked of the lightlyhood of Jamie O being available for selection this season, did say he was making progress but did not think it likely he would be available.
Overseas player for next year likely to be a top three batter.
Likely change to pre season build up, seems South Africa is possible option.
Guy Lavender leaves on Friday, but will be watching as a member on Saturday.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 21:26

The bit I remember about Lewis Gregory was that injection he had on his back to kill the pain didn't last has long as they would have liked, he is now in pain again.

I think what was said about the finance side was the International match profit amounts to half of our normal profit. (if I remembered correctly). So will that be 200k/300k on top of our normal profit for this year, it will be our biggest ever for the club, could it be 800k this year?

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 21:26

For anyone wondering if Roger Ivanhoe and I were at the same meeting I can confirm, having read his post, we were. I hope if he reads my post he can confirm the same! Told you I was tired.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Cleavo (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 21:43

I was also at the Q&A Nelliec. A few points of interest.

Guy Lavender's last day as CEO this Friday with Lee Cooper taking over from Saturday.

Update on Fakhar Zahman: Still awaiting visa clearance. Maynard has spoken with both Pakistan Cricket Board and Fakhar's agent today. Hoping to have news at close of play tomorrow and remains confident he would be available for last 3 T20 games and remaining 5 CC games. This would suggest visa clearance should be sorted very soon.

On the rumours regarding players futures whose contracts run out at the end of this season Guy Lavender forcefully said he's seen a lot of rumours and said not to believe all of them. Therefore, purely speculation at this time until club officially confirm position of out of contract players. There was no mention of Allenby's radio interview surprisingly. Make of that what you will. Interview suggests he has made it clear he's off. All those out of contract at end of season have had discussions last month as to where future lies, but no firm decisions made. Main priorities currently retaining division 1 status in CC and T20. Maynard did say he would like all contract issues resolved by Christmas. Daz Veness departure at end of season also mentioned and Maynard said was personal decision.

Regarding plans for overseas signing for next season one of the questions raised Maynard said we would be looking to sign top 3 batter and acknowledged not everything rosy currently. Also, admitted he had made mistakes, but wouldn't go into detail as to what those mistakes were. A little bit of a cop out answer to this question from him here. He then went onto say important to learn from these mistakes rather than continue to make the same ones, so can improve as a coach.

Question raised on pre season and whether not being challenged enough was part of reasoning for slow start. Maynard confirmed they were not challenged enough and would be going somewhere different for a pre season tour next year rather than Desert Springs.

Other points of note were:

Question raised on Jamie Overton's injury. Maynard said he's back running, will be going for another scan shortly. Best case scenario is he would be available for last 3 CC games, but also planning for worst.

I raised a question on Lewis Gregory and whether he would be available for rest of T20 campaign. Maynard said Lewis playing through pain barrier and injections have worn off. Hoping he can play through pain for T20s, but would not be available to play red ball cricket again for the rest of this season as confirmed on website yesterday.

Lots of other questions were raised, but these were the main points of interest.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 21:58

Thanks for the updates.Regarding the plan for floodlights the winter after next,was there any mention of a permanent stand ,in stead of the temp stand,which they never seem to want to open up most of the time.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 21:58

Differing opinions, even bizarre and unreasonable ones are the lifeblood of a forum like this. But outright lies designed to undermine the club and in particular the players (ref players disrespecting the captain's innings) should not be tolerated and the perpetrator should be banned

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:08

Well said Railboy.
I am admittedly in the positive camp.
Tom, Clarence and co always on the negative side.
Each to their own.
But outright lies designed to back up the percieved issues/problems should not be tolerated.
Many read this site who may not post or attend that often. As such information they read likely to be believed.
Pure lies are totally out of order.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:16

Interesting that Mr Lavender said 'don't believe *all* of the rumours," rather than "don't believe any of them."

This sounds like a realistic position.

As for a change to pre-season...............well they have to try something, can't keep doing the same thing over and over again and..........definition of insanity.

I can't help thinking that the club needs somebody involved in the management that can really get the players going in pre-season though, because the problem seems to me to be that other teams seem to be able to bring the intensity from the first match and we seldom seem to be able to ... it's normally almost as though we are asleep for the first few sessions/even matches sometimes.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:18

"Tom. That is factual nonsense and terribly innacurate and misleading."

No it's not WSM. I was in a very good position to see and looked out specifically to see how his return to form would be greeted by his team mates. They were not present on the balcony, and the chap seated next to me commented the same. Maynard was in fact sat in the dug out at ground level.

It seems then that someone else at the Q & A commented on this apparent lack of team spirit, if it was denied by Maynard. Well it wasn't me who asked the question WSM because I wasn't there. It wasn't asked by the chap who was seated next to me because we walked out of the ground together, so there must have been at least a 3rd. person who had the same impression.

"So perhaps the rumours are in the same category as the description of the Somerset players` balcony when Tom A reached his 50."

The rumours about Trego having left the club may be rumours Cricket-jerrymouse, as I intimated that they were, but don't tell me that the lack of Somerset players on the balcony to applaud Tom Abell are also rumours, because it is not only what I observed but others also.



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:21

"I raised a question on Lewis Gregory and whether he would be available for rest of T20 campaign. Maynard said Lewis playing through pain barrier and injections have worn off. Hoping he can play through pain for T20s, but would not be available to play red ball cricket again for the rest of this season as confirmed on website yesterday."

I'm sorry, but I just really, really don't think LG should be asked to play through the pain barrier just for the sake of T20. The man has had a deal of back trouble so far in his still youngish career and we should, surely, be looking to the future, and trying to get him sorted out ASAP with whatever he needs (somebody said his back was going to be 'bolted together,' which sounds horrible but if that's what needs to be done, GET ON WITH IT!!)

And I realise that LG might want to play (and so not need to 'asked,') but I don't think he should be permitted to play either.

I wasn't crazy about the idea of shooting him up with painkillers and having him play on in the CC in the first place. I applaud the guy for his efforts in having done so - especially the way he bowled at North Marine Road, but enough is, I think, enough.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:26

Well you are wrong Tom. Fact.
I spoke to a player after who was up there clapping and told me all others were too.
With respect i believe him more than i do you from 100 yards away.
Matt was very strong in response to the question saying all were out either on balcony or in the dugouts downstairs.
Toms knock was superb so to still try and find a negative slant on it is just boring.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Railboy (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:28

Totally false, whilst I did not count them and from my position on the Hill could not name them I had a clear view across the ground. What appeared to be the whole team were out on the balcony on their feet enthusiastically applauding their captain. Your agenda has no place on this site.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:32

Agreed



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:36

The same goes to the person who asked the question, there is no place for people who try to make the club look bad when it isn't.

I can't confirm one way or the other I was clapping the player not looking around to see who wasn't.

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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Roger ivanhoe (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:39

Yes, Farmer White read your post now, we must have been at the same meeting.

Decent size crowd also,150 plus maybe.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:43

Both Railboy and WSM fan have used the word "lies" in relation to a previous posting of mine.

By indirectly calling me a liar they have slandered me and for this Sportnetwork is surely liable.

I shall pursue this, so I ask that you both delete your posts and issue me with an apology on this messageboard.



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:46

For what it is worth on the balcony issue I was in the top deck of the Somerset Pavilion and when Tom hit the runs I glanced briefly at the player's balcony. I saw three possibly four people at the back of the balcony applauding. I saw another larger group, perhaps eight or ten, just inside the dressing room looking out and applauding. I didn't look at the dugouts so can't comment on those. I then looked back at the middle, the crowd applause went on for some time and I did not look at the balcony again. How long the people there and in the dressing room applauded for or if those inside came outside after I stopped looking I cannot saay. I can say that to me MM looked genuinely surprised at the content at the question.

Perhaps what different people saw depended on where they were sitting.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 22:54

Cricketers are, on the whole, a superstitious bunch. If they were sitting at the rear of the balcony, or just inside the doors onto the balcony, during the partnership as it was developing they would be loathe to move seats. This may explain why they weren't obvious at the front of the balcony but could be seen further back as FW describes.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: sandhills (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 23:00

Tom i seem to remember u had an imaginary friend that u used to answer ur posts not that long ago. Was this the same friend today I can assure u that the players were on the balcony. Good luck with your pursuit of Tom's justice, you are nothing but a malicious trouble maker that the site master should remove.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Roger ivanhoe (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 23:01

AGOD, I really think you should not interpret much into your first line of your posting of 22.16.

I cannot remember myself whether the word "all or Any" was used tonight , either way may turn out to be true, or false.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 23:09

There will be no retraction from me Tom.
Tbe players WERE out there. As confirmed by Matt, the player i spoke to who WAS up there clapping, and several on here.

You mention lies. Are you not in effect accusing Matt & players of being liars?

If you are thearein the morning id happily seek out Matt with you pre match and a few players and let you seek their actual response. Will you call them liars to their face as opposed to behind a keyboard?

You never fail to find a negative slant even on a superb batting day in what were tough conditions.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: sandhills (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 23:16

Tom It will be very disappointing for grockle to remove any posts associated with you or comments tonight as it show you in your true light for all to see.

With regards to today's play, an odd decision by surrey to ask us to bat. I sense it demonstrates a lack of confidense however we can only be sure after both sides have batted.

Tom was excellent and it was really good to see the players on the balcony cheering not only his 50 but the numerous 4s. They were particularly clappy at the two exquisitely timed drives of meaker in one over through wide mid off. Steve Davies also timed the ball beatifully and credit to him for I have no doubt watching that he help young Tom between overs.

I can also vouch for that the support at the last match in Scarborough by our players for our players from their changing room was loud and noisy just like today.

Tom do something useful log out.

Apologies for any typos

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 23:23

Well gents...... i've tried for more than 3 years to get you to use an official process to allow me to deal with things and keep it off the site.

I have still to have any PM complaints to deal with because you all seem to hate bickering on the site but continue to allow it and whinge about it in public at each other leaving the moderator nothing to deal with.

Only thing I can reply to officially. Is this 'libel' accusation. The person who needs to be required to act to that is the site itself.

So 'Tom' if you wish to take legal action, you need to legally and officially ask SN to 'cease and desist' so they ask me to remove the posts. I'm not sure a number of posters saying the same thing while you stick by another story gives you a good case but it is not a criminal case so I'm sure the civil case will be intetesting.

If you want moderation people I need complaints. All I read here is lots of manly demands with no substance....



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 23:43

To talk of the cricket...followed on cricinfo ( in its new unimproved version) on my laptop while gardening and keeping an eye on the test match through the window. I~ assumed that Surrey put us in because they didn't mind us bowling 4th, which made me wonder if last year's 4th innings chase from Jack and Tim was preying on the mind. The opening partnership made me weed with increased vigour;the clatter of wickets was taken out on a batch of slugs, and I applauded like mad at Tom and Steve's 50's -although because of the distance and the fact that I was wearing gardening gloves means it may not have been noticed in Taunton. It was a day that gave much hope and I look forward to see if this can be built upon.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 23:45

AG. Lewis was talking about the injury yesterday. He did not talk about playing through pain (though quite a number of cricketers do). He said the injections were just not lasting long enough for anything but short form cricket. I'm sure they know enough to manage his workload in a T20 game.



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 07/08/2017 23:47

The class of Steve Davies really showed through today. He really is a fluent and skilled batsman. It was a joy to watch him in full flow for the first time really.



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 01:52

Thanks to all who attended the Q & A for their reports.

The content sounds relatively benign, given the extent of hyperbole over recent weeks.

I'm a little surprised that no-one took MM to task specifically regarding the contents of the JA interview.

We also seem to be still in the dark regarding the positions of PT, JA, MT, etc. for at least a while longer, together with the likely identity of our white ball Captain next season.

I'm wondering if the questioning was a little timid, or whether MM skilfully deflected potentially difficult questions without actually responding directly to issues raised ?

Grizzzly

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 06:41

Tomorrow's forecast now looks particularly discouraging, I'm afraid.

A little bird made a suggestion to me which makes sense viz the rumoured release of Nax Waller...namely that the club wants Dom Bess to be regularly involved in all cricket..

..And unless Roelof were to leave (a separate rumour reported by somebody else on here) there probably isn't room for 3 spinners in our white ball side (sure we could produce bunsens for white ball games in TA1 but I think too many of the punters like six fests so may diminsh the crowds if we did that.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 06:52

Looking at the other games:

A result is very likely at Lord's.

But I'm not entirely sure what I want to happen.

If Warks lose, they're toast. And the track seems to have been getting easier so the odds possibly favour Middx, I would have thought.

If Warks are toast they may go in the tank completely. That may help us when we go up to Edgbaston? On the other hand it may also help Yorkshire, who are becoming an outside bet for relegation as Warks will also play them.

If Warks were to win, they'd be not far behind us. But, if we take, say, 10 points from this current match, then we'd gain about six on Middx, cutting the gap between us to 24 points with five games to go.

I thought this was a must-win game for us before it started and I still think that. But I don't think the weather will allow enough play, and I fear the pitch may prove too slow anyway for us to be able to win this one.

A Middx win at Lord's would all but put them out of our reach in terms of trying to possibly finish ahead of them.

Incidentally, I note that Yorkshire have still to play all of Warks, Surrey and Middx.

Edited to correct nonsense as pointed out by Chunky. Thank you, Chunky.



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 06:55

If we take ten points from this current match then we shall be 29 points behind Yorkshire, but with a game in hand, as per the current table shown on the Beeb.

So they really would be potentially in this relegation scrap. Sadly, they have no more games to play on the trampoline at North Marine Road (back to the safer comfort of Headingley)

I note also that Surrey and Middx must also play each other (in the next round, in their case).

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 07:16

AGod- You seem to have forgotten last game of season is Somerset v Middlesex.

I was hoping it would be fight for the title- not a battle to avoid relegation.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 07:18

If the Warks final two wickets could drag things out for ninety minutes or so this morning, then it's possible that Middx might not have time to get the runs today (although Warks might take the ten wickets). This might be relevant because tomorrow's forecast for London is so extraordinarily bad (quite a bit worse than that for Taunton which, itself, is very unpromising) that there might possibly not be a ball bowled in North London should the game last that long.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 07:26

Brain-fade, Chunky, sorry.

Yes, I still think we really do need to win this one, but not likely to be possible, I fear.

But, yes we do have your guys as well as the Brown Caps again. So if our lot could manage to win those two games and avoid disasters elsewhere then things might be very tight.

If we are 29 points behind Yorks with 5 to play and them 4 to play:

If we could find 70 points from our final five games (average 14 per match - about 3 wins and one draw or possible 2 wins and 3 draws), then they'd need either 41 pts or 42 pts from their final four (depending on number of matches won) to finish ahead of us. With the way Yorkshire are currently batting they could not be that confident of that sort of haul. However, I suppose they may get Ballance back from his broken digit next month because he won't get picked for ODIs, which might help to rally their batting.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 08:19

Well there's the first brain blown AG. While you are reconnecting another ( I check your stores, at this rate you won't reach the next game let alone the end of the season). Have you heard of a 'computer'. Put all the possibles in there and it can give you the result. I think they call it writing an 'algorythm' on Star Trek'.

Meanwhile for us bumbling along in real time. I think Max's prospects for next year are bleak at Somerset because of the presence of Dom as suggested. The conversations were certainly about getting Mr Bess more effectively involved.

Although it is a shame as Max is well worth his salt in T20, that one 'dimensionalness' has always been his Achilles Heel.



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 08:30

Or even algorithm.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Angell Face (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 09:05

Apart from the runs, I am encouraged by Abell's comment that he has "gone back to basics with my technique". When I first saw him bat it struck me that he had a good orthodox technique: his left shoulder led and he got well forward or back. Seeing him this season it seemed to me that he was more square on and a gentleman who has held the highest positions in the Club sat with us on the hill for an hour during the Yorkshire match and offered the opinion that one of Abell's problems was that he was not getting far enough forward to a good length ball(I precis his remarks). Let's hope he has turned the corner.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 09:34

Often statements leave more question than are answered.

At the Q&A it was said Adam Hose and Darren Veness decided to leave the club, that remark doesn't tell us much.

Was Adam Hose contract handled correctly, should Somerset have got in there sooner than they did, the contract timetable detailed last night surely is not ridged, I have heard of players being given extensions to their contracts mid-season.

Talk at the ground yesterday why Darren Veness is leaving (I will not go into detail on what was being said) the gist of it was alleged he wanted to do something and the club wouldn't let him.

And of the younger players surely they need to know as soon as possible if they are going to be offered contracts for next season, I couldn't blame them if they moved to another club if a contract was offered sooner rather than later.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Farmer White (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 09:42

Perhaps the most important thing I saw yesterday were four primary school age children playing cricket in the car park and another still carrying a pair of inflatable batons from yesterday’s T20 so he at least had been brought to both games. I saw five others, or perhaps the same five waiting for autographs by the Caddyshack only to all set off like a flock of County ground seagulls, in hot pursuit of Steven Davies’ six presumably for the honour of throwing it back. They were foiled because it fell at the foot of the out of bounds, for this match, temporary stand. There were four or five children of a similar age in the top deck of the Somerset Pavilion from where I viewed today. Hopefully from small beginnings children at Championship matches in numbers will return perhaps gradually drawn in by T20 where they proliferate.

I think that is the first time I have seen an out of bounds stand at Taunton. Understandable given the seats were not needed and the steep steps for access but it does perhaps help explain’ Andy Nash’s opposition to a permanent huge stand there if the Championship atmosphere at the ground is to be preserved and which I remember him saying the team value.

Somerset needed to continue the return to form they had shown at Scarborough. Trescothick’s swish at a wide one in the first over sent a shiver. Then almost immediately he seemed to find his touch. Boundaries from perfectly struck drives and steers wide of gully unveiled the Trescothick of old. Heavily overcast skies perhaps the reason why Gareth Batty inserted Somerset were brightened by Trescothick’s stroke play and Batty might just have felt the slightest of shivers himself. Byrom too having been left standing by Trescothick at the outset started to show that perhaps Somerset have another left-handed opener of class in the making.

As the Trescothick Byrom partnership was developing I found myself discussing the future of domestic cricket in general and of Somerset in particular with someone I have watched Somerset with for years. We covered the decline in Test Cricket attendances and the long-term threat that might pose to the Championship. Whether Somerset can both prioritise the Championship and retain its best T20 players when the City based T20 starts. Whether international matches and the potential profits are important to the Club. Whether Somerset can retain its first division place this season. And, as they say, much more. After half an hour or so we had come to no serious conclusion about anything nor did we look likely to.

It didn’t take our eye off the cricket though. We still applauded Trescothick’s fours and commented on Byrom’s potential. Discussed the wisdom of playing on a used pitch; not that either of us knows the first thing about pitch preparation. That is the thing about the Championship. You can sit and discuss unlimited aspects of cricket endlessly, whether you know anything about them or not, and not miss a bit of cricket. You can’t do that with T20. You can’t do anything with T20 except watch it. If you don’t watch it incessantly you can’t keep up. Ever tried keeping a scorecard at a T20 match? Don’t.

Watching a T20 match is like riding a highspeed roller coaster. Watching a Championship match is heaven. At least it is when Somerset are 43-0 having been inserted. At 46-3 it feels rather different. Trescothick, after dominating, edged Meaker’s second ball to slip. Rouse joined Byrom and almost as quickly departed for a duck having flashed a cut at a ball from Clarke which took the edge. Hildreth came in on the back of his hundred at Scarborough and played down the line of Clarke’s next ball only for it to straighten and take the pad or at least that is what it looked like from the top of the Somerset Pavilion. Déjà vu.

Then something wonderful happened. Tom Abell joined Byrom. He defended hard at the start and how hard he tried. Every ball that could not be left was met by the full face of the bat. We waited with trepidation for the ball that would breach his defence as déjà vu demanded. But it never came. Just a straight bat as wide as Roman legionnaire’s shield or so it must have seemed to Surrey. ‘They shall not pass’ sprang to mind. He had walked to the wicket on a wave of hope and warm applause, from the crowd that he might at last come good.

At first he and Byrom defended for all they were worth. In T20 Somerset would have attacked, attacked and attacked again to break free. But this was the Championship and they just faced Surrey down. Then Byrom broke the stalemate with a beautiful clip through mid-wicket to cries of ‘shot!’ from round about me. Abell responded with an equally impressive push of Clarke, wicket taker in chief, to the Ondtajee boundary. There are not many who can make a push look as sumptuous as a cover drive but this one was.

It prompted a buzz around the ground. No music of course but I could not get that ear worm ‘Sweet Caroline’ out of my head from yesterday. Perhaps, just perhaps this might be the turning point. I watched an over from the terrace above the umpire’s head. Clarke was moving the ball through the air. Marginally but away from the batsman. The anticipation and hope were blunted by a blanket of cloud and rain that hung above the point of the Quantocks all morning. Threatening but from a distance.

Surrey kept at their task and Byrom and Abell theirs. At 56-3 the ball was changed. Abell despatched it for three and four with square drives from the top drawer. Cries of ‘shot!’ again. Next Byrom awoke the ghosts in the old stragglers bar with a backward cut that streaked lighting fast into their midst. Two of the four slips that had stalked Somerset all morning had now retreated as lunch approached. Then as if by way of a statement of intent Abell pulled the penultimate ball before lunch to the temporary stand boundary. Shot! 92-3.

Batty opened after lunch from the River End and Byrom promptly swept him behind square for four. Next ball he advanced far down the pitch to him and was bowled. 96-4. In such moments are dreams shattered. Enter Stephen Davies with an awful season with the bat behind him. Surrey prowled. Batty and Clarke bowled with the persistent accuracy which suggested hunters closing in on their prey. In the half an hour after Byrom departed seven runs were scored. Not a hint of T20 technique here.

Then the miracle began to take shape. First Davies broke free with the most delicate of late cuts wide of the fielder to Gimblett’s Hill. Then Abell clipped Clarke to the Caddyshack boundary where the skimming ball was parried by the fielder diving full length only to run twenty yards along the boundary rope. ‘Shot!’ and ‘Shot!’ again. Sometimes such fine margins mark a turning point. The Quantocks certainly thought so for they drove away the ugly cloud and the rain for a better view and the day lightened.

So did the cricket. Abell and Davies unleashed an array of sweeps, cuts, late cuts, pulls and drives of all types: straight, on, cover , off, back foot, especially from Abell the back foot drive. What a stroke that is when played with such precision and power. And the pulls apart hardly a ball lifted off the ground.

I timed the boundaries as they flowed. 14.32 14.32 14.35 14.37 14.39 (6) 14.42 14.44 14.47 14.55 15.01 15.08 15.24 15.31 15.35 15.36 15.38 15.46 15.48. It was as good a display of controlled precision attacking batting to wrest the initiative from a circling opposition as you could hope to see. The applause, the ever more intense buzz that enveloped the ground the cries of ‘Shot’ that ever increasingly punctuated it was a sound for sore ears this season. This was the partnership of the season at least at home.

It had been such a display that brightened Somerset hearts to the extent that I had not noticed how bright the figures on the scoreboard had become. The Quantocks had given up the unequal struggle and the cloud had enveloped the ground as much as the applause. But what memories remain of that golden miraculous afternoon. Somerset 234-4 Abell 88* Davies 68* and that was it for the day.

Who would have thought it but then as someone said to me after the players had come off, “Form is temporary. Class is permanent.” I hope those Primary school children took some of it in.

And for now that is it for I am off to the cricket. Not even time to proof read this so apologies for any howlers – or at least for more than normal.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 09:47

What a wonderful sport cricket is!

Such passion is imbued, that we have a fan threatening legal action following a disagreement about how many people clapped a player scoring 50.

At least it makes my readings on football equivalents not seem quite so hyperbolic now.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 09:59

Lovely piece of writing again FW, thank you.

Here's hoping for some good progress today in between the showers to get us up toward 4 batting points minimum.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 10:13

Yes, Mike, of course you are entirely right that players are often awarded contract extensions during a season. A club can award an extension to a player whenever it chooses, without doubt.

As for Tom Abell and his technique - a good question that could have been asked of Maynard would have been this:

Will the club now re-consider sending young players abroad over the winter (?), given that, presumably, one of two things happened to Tom Down Under:

Either

a) Playing on Australian pitches caused Tom to adjust his technique and then he failed to adjust it back (if Tom played on bouncy tracks then that could explain a technical flaw in which he was tending to not get his weight fully forward when playing forward).

or

b) Some Aussie coach took it upon himself to interfere with Tom's natural technique.

Of course, if the problem was b) then that is a learning experience for Tom - unless you're badly out of form, don't let the coach make changes to your technique, especially if he's not even your real boss!! But perhaps the problem here was that Tom already felt somewhat out of form and sought assistance because his record at home last year was dreadful once we started producing the dry tracks.

In general, it seems to me to make sense to send players off to experience different conditions, different types of bowling etc to aid their development as cricketers but here, perhaps, is a salutary lesson about the potential pitfalls of doing so...

.... perhaps any placements should be very short and players should be recalled to Taunton earlier, just in case they've developed the sort of nasty technical gremlin that Mr Maynard told us that Mr Abell had developed.

Or perhaps (and this would have an obvious cost implication) SCCC coaches need to be dispatched *with* our young players to ensure that they are not receiving unhelpful advice from coaches overseas?

The batting woes this season were certainly not all Tom's fault. But, had he not been in terrible form then not only would we have got more runs from his bat but it seems very likely that we would have got more runs from the bats of others ... for example Hildreth and Davies would, on average, have been facing an older ball, perhaps a far older ball. Even Trego had to face a newish ball too often in the first part of this season.



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:00

Come on boys, I want you two to add at least another ton together and I'm going to be greedy and request full batting bonus points. A 13 point haul from the match is not what we want but we'd not be out of it with that haul.................... and the key point might be that batting confidence might have been significantly restored if these two are feeling really good about themselves, so that we can go into the remaining games with more chance of getting reasonable hauls of batting bonus points.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Monkey Butler (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:27

Abell is gone one boundary away from his century. A shame, but I hope he takes confidence in the fact that this has been a pivotal knock for somerset.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:32

Yes. Chances of full batting bonus points probably greatly diminished now, however, unless the lower-order rallies to very good effect.

I can't say I'm expecting a significant score from Jim Allenby.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:37

Ground Control to Captain Tom
Ground Control to Captain Tom
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on
Ground Control to Captain Tom (ten, nine, eight, seven, six)
Commencing countdown, engines on (five, four, three)
Check ignition and may God's love be with you (two, one, liftoff)

This is Ground Control to Captain Tom
You've really made the grade

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:40

Warks' lead at Lord's is stating to assume the sort of proportions that may make them feel that they are in with a real shout in that game.

And, if the North London weather is as bad as forecast tomorrow, then it may be a big enough lead that the match is ultimately drawn (assuming little or no play tomorrow) That would probably allow us to gain a small number of points relative to Middx, given the very low first-innings scores in that match.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:42

Gutted for Tom, but what a knock, pure class. Time to put them to the sword.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:48

Allenby failed to justify his selection again, I'm afraid.

A poor choice for this XI.

Since he's obviously leaving anyway and isn't up to CC1 standards with the bat anyway, I fail to see any sensible purpose in persisting with him, I'm afraid.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:49

I hope Cove is able to explode on Surrey, hit them all over the park.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:51

Just what does Jim Allenby bring to the side?
Mybs should be playing in his place.
(JA will take 5 wickets now in the Surrey 1st innings)

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:51

But he couldn't.

Hope SD gets his ton and then, quite frankly, I wouldn't mind cracking on with trying to get all three bowling bonus points.

Won't be easy, probably, with reportedly naff all turn from the deck and only two frontline seamers in the team, but you never know .. if Cove bowls like he did at Scarborough (albeit on far, far slower track), Timmy G shows his experience and Surrey panic a bit..

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:53

Bit of a collapse now then.
Come on - let's get at least the third batting point

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:53

Absolutely right, Rod.

I'd have picked Mybs at number three for this one.

Sadly, the chances of JA taking five wickets are , well....

The best we can hope for is that he *might* be able to tie down an end.

That's what he brings - some bowling that is usually economical, but it's not enough to merit a place given absence of batting performance and absence of bowling penetration.

Maynard will have to drop him all over again.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 11:55

Highest first innings total of the whole summer, now (at 274)

Which rather speaks volumes...



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 12:18

Love Dom Bess as a player.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 12:24

Good job, SD.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 12:25

IN case we hear to the contrary, I note the words of the commentators:

"The whole SCCC team is on the balcony applauding."

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 12:26

You are my Davies,
My Steven Davies,
You make me happy,
When skies are grey,
So keep your Clarke,
And Nora Batty,
But Please don't take my Davies away...

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 12:28

Bravo Steve Davies.
Pouring down in Wellington now and moving steadily East, I fear...

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 12:49

Forecasts seem to claim otherwise but, as ever, we shall see..

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:01

Well done Steve. Glorious weather in Bicknoller after I took the forecast at its word. I'll sort a lottle of the ego and pettiness of last night today if possible ( still have not received any kind of official complaint about any poster - maybe it is simply because I wasn't involved who knows).

I may split the thread for those using the mobile version as it has got a little long for phone memory.



(Sm72)

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:03

Grockle = you know how it goes, lots of smoke, fury and indignation, but almost never any willingness to actually take any official action (on the part of posters, I mean, not on your part).

Anyway, loving Dom's work here - superb.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:07

The much bally-hooed Currans?

0-150 at about 4.7 runs per over...............

All in front of England selector, Mick Newell (or at least he was there yesterday)

But, as they play for Surrey...........

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:13

357-7 off 94 at lunch.
Can we get max batting points?
Can Dom get his 50, SD his 150?

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Kingston Black (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:25

They really should turn the radio commentary microphone off or down during these intervals. I've just heard every word of an ostensibly private conversation between three gentlemen who I imagine would have much preferred it if their private thoughts and opinions had not been broadcast to all and sundry. Had to turn the volume up a bit, but every word...

KB

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:29

If these two stay together, then we surely will get maximum batting points.

If not, maybe Timmy G will come out to slap a quick 20 or so to help us up there?

It would be great to be able to declare at 400-7 or 400-8 and thus denying Surrey a bowling point.

Before anyone mentions it, yes, we can declare provided that the *only* reason isn't to deny them a bowling bonus point. It wouldn't be - the point would be to get on with trying to get our bowling bonus points won, in view of a poor forecast for tomorrow and, indeed, to progress a game that we really need to win.



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:30

Anything interesting, KIngston Black?

Or too salacious to go into print!?

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Kingston Black (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:39

Wouldn't be fair to reveal the details AG, but they were discussing the Q&A meeting yesterday and Steve Davies innings today. I only mentioned it because I think the good folk in the media centre should be aware that their conversations may unwittingly be being broadcast during breaks in play.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:45

With the injuries Middx have (one of Compton or Robson opened with a runner, Gubbins pulled a muscle in the field earlier this morning), and at 21-1 chasing 327 to win - A Warwickshire win could be on.
If we can do the business, then it drags Middx back into the mix.

Edit - 23 for 2......



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:52

Magnificent, Dominic, Sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Middx now 28-2, so possibly looking a little grim for them. Robson and Eskinazi both gone.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 13:58

Bravo bravo Dombess!
Rain passed fairly quickly in Wellington and presumably went wide of the CG (or it would have been there by now). Keep it up boys.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:02

Middx 28-4!

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:04

Middx 28-3 and apparently rushing, headlong, toward an ignominious defeat. At the time of typing we figure to gain at least six points on Middx as a result of this round.

They have 3 bonus points from their match, we have 4.

We are likely to finish with an absolute minimum of 9, and have hopes of a full 13 points, in which case we'd close the gap to Middx by ten points (leaving them 20 points up the road, as opposed to 30, with five games each still to play).

Obviously, Warks would gain on us somewhat..

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:05

28-4. Shocking stuff.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:08

Well, if Middx and Yorks continue to bat as they have in this round of games, then we must be in with a pretty good shout of staying up.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:09

Booooo. Batty. Hiss.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:09

Time for Tim to hit Batty all the way to Weston...........

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:10

Best 8th wicket partnership vs Surrey.

What an effort by Dom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:10

Middx 34-5!!!!!

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:13

34-5 at Lord's.

Might be over by tea, at this rate.

It looks like this relegation battle may involve as many as 5 (or possibly even 6 if Hants get dragged in) teams at the moment.

There are only about 15 points separating 2nd from 6th in the table.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:14

Gotta win first people but we are going the right way about that. Well done Dom. Hope the weather stays away.



(Sm72)

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:18

Darkening now, apparently.

Would be handy if heavily overcast (but stays dry) when we start bowling..

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:20

Blackdowns swathed in mist, apparently...

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: rodders (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:25

Great effort from some much maligned team members ( though not all ) and in a position I would say from which we cannot lose. Whether or not we can win is another question entirely !

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:26

Well played SD.
Can Jack and Tim get us that batting point?

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 14:27

Draw the heavy favourite, but Yorks getting hammered and Middx heading the same way means that a draw would not be the end of the world.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Germiston lad (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 15:17

Quote:
AGod
Absolutely right, Rod.
I'd have picked Mybs at number three for this one.

Sadly, the chances of JA taking five wickets are , well....

The best we can hope for is that he *might* be able to tie down an end.

That's what he brings - some bowling that is usually economical, but it's not enough to merit a place given absence of batting performance and absence of bowling penetration.

Maynard will have to drop him all over again.

The 2nd eleven look like they have found a promising bowler (P D Trego) 10 overs-3 maidens-30 for 5.
One wonders why he is not in the first team?

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 15:26

But we NEED the win and MUST go for it with all guns blazing.

Your 13:30 assessment is pretty much spot on AG. Little I can do if not asked to act and being indermined by activity of people.

Ahh well not the first golden opportunity missed of this season.



(Sm72)

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 15:33

Well,unfortunately, Gl, when he was in the team, earlier this season, Peter had a bowling average in three figures.

Last year he was superb with the bat so his diminished bowling role didn't really matter. But this year a batting average of about 20 and a bowling average in three figures were not cutting the mustard.

Still, there's no point Peter playing in the seconds at all, unless Mr Maynard is going to pay attention to his performances.

Perhaps, Matthew has sent him to the seconds specifically with instructions to work on getting back to it as a bowler?

It would be nice to think that were the case. And if he's bowling well in the seconds then he ought to be a strong candidate to return instead of Mr Allenby, given that he is probably a much better bet to make runs.

To judge from the scorecard, it would seem that conditions may have been loaded in favour of the bowling side this morning. But Hants have made a much better start to the follow-on so further wickets may press Peter's case more effectively.



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'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Following on (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 15:33

What on earth are Middlesex up to? having collapsed to 111-9 with rain on the way and an awful forecast for tomorrow they have gone into full on T20 mode and hit six consecutive deliveries for 4!!!!

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 15:34

It means they've given up a la Yorkshire on the same ground last season.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Following on (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 15:34

Quite right AG - they have lost

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Following on (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 15:36

What's the weather doing at HQ? any chance of a resumption today?

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 15:40

From what I heard it's not too bad but the umpires don't look terribly interested in actually going out there and getting the cricket on.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 15:54

Finally back on at 16:15pm per the Beeb...

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:09

This is getting too big for mobile.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Germiston lad (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:17

Quote:
AGod
Well,unfortunately, Gl, when he was in the team, earlier this season, Peter had a bowling average in three figures.
Last year he was superb with the bat so his diminished bowling role didn't really matter. But this year a batting average of about 20 and a bowling average in three figures were not cutting the mustard.

Still, there's no point Peter playing in the seconds at all, unless Mr Maynard is going to pay attention to his performances.

Perhaps, Matthew has sent him to the seconds specifically with instructions to work on getting back to it as a bowler?

It would be nice to think that were the case. And if he's bowling well in the seconds then he ought to be a strong candidate to return instead of Mr Allenby, given that he is probably a much better bet to make runs.

To judge from the scorecard, it would seem that conditions may have been loaded in favour of the bowling side this morning. But Hants have made a much better start to the follow-on so further wickets may press Peter's case more effectively.

I am relatively new to the game of cricket, I am only in my 60"S, so I should probably bow to your superior knowledge of stat's and the game in general, but may I venture to say that maybe PT is bowling better at the moment because he has given himself a chance to bowl. I cant remember him bowling in at least two of the current formats I.E. 20-20 rubbish and the 50 over version this year. If I am wrong, then I apologies.

It seems to me though, that he is not on his own in performing below his usual standard this season, but it must be particularly upsetting to be replaced in the team by some one (JA) who is preforming well below the standard that Tigger sets himself, and IMO is not both physically and technically fit to play for Somerset.

I seem to have seen someone else on this thread asking: what does JA contribute to the team. Its certainly not fitness or performance on the field, perhaps he is particularly good at brown nosing with the DoC or running for his drinks? Or am I being cruel? Perhaps!

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:18

Well done Steve & Tom. And well done Dom as well.

Five batting points as well ! That hasn't happened too often recently.

Grizzzly



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:20

All of my comments related to CC cricket. He did bowl in the CC and had a three figure bowling average earlier this season -- 170 to be specific.

Nobody that has a season record of 20 with the bat and 278 with the ball has too much right to be upset at being dropped.

But they would have a right to be upset if they started to put in strong performances in the twos whilst JA does nada in the firsts, and yet JA still got preferred.



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Posted by: Following on (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:22

Great effort from Somerset - particularly in the week that both Yorkshire and Middlesex have disintegrated!

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:23

Time to declare now the milestone is passed?
Or have a go and try and get a quick 20 first? Maybe the latter.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:24

What pay back it would be for last season if the final day results saved us, and relegated Middx and Yorks!

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:24

…sounds like they're following Option 2.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Following on (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:27

There can't be many better No 11's than Timmy G!

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:30

Timmy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:37

I will do something about the size of it Scrumper in the next hour or so if possible.



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Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:40

@Following on quite so.



"Tim Groenewald - best No 11 in the world" - Rob Key

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:46

Right to bat on past 400 for quick runs. Our best (only)chance of winning is to get Surrey to follow on-and they now have to make an extra 36 runs to do it. Splendid performance so far.

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Rod1883 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:48

Couple of early wickets please - get the jitters going and put the pressure on their middle order early

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: mikeindex (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:48

Quite agree GM. Plan 2 couldn't have gone much better.



"Tim Groenewald - best No 11 in the world" - Rob Key

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 16:49

Sounds like we'll be off for light before long, sadly.

I'd love a quick couple before that happens..

Re: 'Surrey Week' T20 onto CC1
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/08/2017 17:09

I am going to shut this on down and start Part 2 for our mobile colleagues. Please continue on.



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