FAKE 2020 CC1 @Warwickshire Grin and Bear it?
By Grockle et al
June 25 2020
In this alternative 2020 reality Tom Banton finally gets into a side because of England's demands on our spinners - and then he bats at 8!! Jack Brooks gives Jamie Overton a rest on a possibly sluggish pitch in Brum
v WARWICKSHIRE @ Edgbaston Wednesday 24 June 2020
International call ups take out Somerset's whole first class spin attack and therefore Reolof keeps his place while Tom Banton comes in to offer the extra batsman. On what seems to be a slow pitch, Jack Brooks is called back in to give Jamie Overton a breather. Other than that the side is the same as that one that took the points in Yorkshire
Tom Abell requests and wins the toss and decides to bat as he has done in every CC1 match this year when he has had the option. The side is;
Ali, Byrom, Bartlett, Hildreth, Abell, Davies, Gregory, Banton, van der Merwe, Overton C, Brooks
Miles and Norwell open the Warwickshire attack against Somerset and the pitch does suggest there isn't a lot of life off the surface. Tight bowling keeps everything in check with the first boundary not arriving until the 4th over when Ali finds the rope. He settles quicker of the two openers while Byrom is nearly caught behind at 35 and then IS a victim to Ambrose just after Chrois woakes takes over inthe 14th over. Eddie is out for 21 at 46. Patel is introduced in the 15th.
Azhar moves the score past 50 in a conservative and cautious manner but he can't control what is happening at the other end where George Bartlett becomes Ambrose's second victim off woakes before he has got going at 52 for a score of 1. Hildreth loooks a little more formidable as he driveshis second ball for four. Warwickshire try variations before the lunch break with a rota of Norwell, Rhodes and Miles but there are no other incidents and the break comes wiith Somerset on 71 for 2 with Chris Woakes having done the damage with 2 for 20.
The afternoon session starts with Norwell but after James Hildreth puts his second ball over the boundary rope he decides to try around the wicket and almost immediately gets an error and a caught and bowled dismissal of the same batsman for 25 at 84 for 3. Tom Abell does not stay long either LBW to Miles for 7 at 99.
The 100 comes up but then Steve Davies is the third Ambrose victim as Miles goes around the wicket again 101 for 5 is not great. The only bbright spark is a very stubborn 50 from Ali (146 balls 6 fours). Woakes and Patel are back on but Lewis is taking Woakes on which results in a shout at 145 but the ball is just missing. Up comes the 150 s resistance continues and Tea arrives with 166 on the board for no further loss.
Tea sees Azhar on 71 Lewis on 37 with Miles on 2 for 35 adding to Woakes and hhis 2 for 48.
In the evening session it is Miles who comes to the fore. First Norwell has Gregory absolutely in front without adding to the interval score. Banton is off the mark confidently but then snicks Miles to Hose at second slip with only 7 to his name at 179. RvdM is in and 'wafting' but the next to go is Ali LBW to Miles on 81 just before the Somerset 200.
Warwicckshire take the new ball in the 83rd over but some resistance from RvdM and Overton moves the score on until Craig skies Miles to Sibley for 12 at 238 for his 5-fer (5 for 70) and Jack Brooks makes it 6 when he is plumb first ball. Somerset all out for a disappointing 238 with only Azhar Ali looking anything like settled. Miles did the damage after Tea and no one pushed on.
Warwickshire have a dangerous period to bat with enough time for a concerted effort from the Soomerset openers but not really long enough to feel they will be 'in' for tomorrow. Overton launches the attack and has early 'blood' catching Sibley straight in front for 5 at 10 for 1. He then has Bell wonderfully cught by Hildreth diving to his left close in first ball and finds himself on a hat-trick. Pollock survives and he and Rhodes make it to the end of the day on 34 for 2 with Craig Overton finishing with 2 for 14.
Somerset need early wickets to keep this game from getting away from them and the same attack as last nnight sttart the day. Overton has Rhodes flashing after oonly one run has been added but in his first over Gregory sees Pollock take the runs needed under 200 - just to keep it in perspective. However an early close catch from Hildreth does for Pollock from Overton for 17.
The score has moved from 44 to 47 when Overton claims his fourth wicket as Rhodes is caught behind for 19, he then thinks he has his fifth as ex team mate Adam Hose is directly in front of the next ball but the 'no ball!' shout is also pretty clear. This however seems to unsettle Hose and in the very next over he is out to a superb diving catch from Steve Davies across his first slip fielder. 50 for 5 with 4 for 19 to Craig Overton.
This becomes 5 for 19 as Hain finds himself missing a straight one which rapps his pad without moving the score 50 for 6.
Brooks takes over for the 22nd and RvdM is introduced in the nexxt over. Woakes hits the first boundary of the day from the 2nd ball of the over but tries to drive the third as well and is well caught by Ali at first slip for 7 as Warwickshire slump to 58 for 7 with an hour to go until lunch on the second day. Before the over is finished it gets worse as Miles is cleaned up by the Durtchman with the last ball of the 23rd.
Ambrose and RvdM have a bit of a tussle for a while with boundaries and playing and missng being the two most obvious things happening. As we move towards lunch Gregory is re-introduced for Brooks and he gets Patel almost immediately at 81. He then repeats this one run later with Ambrose caught Ali for 16 and Warwickshire are 82 all out 156 short of the first innings par score and 6 runs short of the follow on target.....
Somerset decide to NOT enforce the follow on and so with 13 minutes to go to lunch, they put on 16 before the break.
Miles and Norwell arre back on after the break and there is a considerable amount of 'fencing' between Norwell and Azhar Ali but it is Byrom who is bowled by Miles for 15 at 37. He then nearly has Ali but the umpire decides that it is not LBW as the Pakistani got a very slight edge to the ball.
So, the 200 ahead arrives at 44 for 1 and with Woakes and Patel on the visitors go past 50 in their second innings courtesy of a 'savage' four from Bartlett. Ali reches his second 50 of the game at 90 for 1 (110 balls and 6 fours) 249 ahead, the 250 arrives followed by Somerset's 100.
Tea arrives 7 runs later with Ali on 55 and George Bartlett on 33.
Norwell gets back to the job after the drinks break but except for a couple of edges into space, there is little going for the home side and the score keeps moviing forward. Ali finally goes caught behind on 66 wiith the score at 134 for 2 courtesy of Miles yet again.
Bartlett's 50 arrives 2 runs later (88 balls 5 fours) and little else changes as the 150 arrives with Somerset over 300 ahead. George falls LBW to Woakes for an excellent 60at 158 but the work is hard for the bowlers and Norwell and Patel are re-introduced to try and change things. James Hildreth smacks a couple but it is short lived as he is caught behind off Norwell for 15 at 160. Patel ends the day facing a forcing stroke off the back foot from Davies at 182 for 4 - 338 ahead with Miles 2 for 52 annd Woakes 1 for 39 but this game is getting away from Warwickshire and Somerset may very well have a big bash before lunch tomorrow and then get to work closing this one down.
With 10 overs to go before the new ball was available, Norwell and Miles are the choice too begin the second half of the game. The first event is the arrival of 200 with 13 of those runs coming from the third Miles over. Somerset go 350 ahead straight afterwards.
One assumes that Tom Abell has given his batsment free reign in this first session of the day. At least that seems to be the strategy as he drives at a ball he really shouldn't have and is caught behind off Norwell at 213 for 5. The plan is pretty much confirmed when Banton is promoted in the order as the new ball arrives in the 82nd over. Davies also confirms it by sending a Miles delivery for six. However, Woakes wins the contest with Tom who is clean bowled for 1 at 220. Woakes also wins against Gregory who is also cleaned up for 1 at 226.
Meanwhile, Steve Davies is simply getting on with the job. He takes another six off the Warwickshire bowlers on his way to a 50 (78 balls 5 fours and 2 sixes) at 237 for 7. With a single he brings up the 400 lead (obviously the first target of Somerset in this session) and RvdM takes the innings total past 250 with a single. Davies is dropped by Ambrose at 251 and he takes Rhodes on, seeming not plannning to stop any time soon. Roelof is caught behind just before the lunch break with the score on 273 and Somerset go in for Lunch at 294 for 8 with Steve Davies on 96.
As this is fantasy and the lead is 450, I decide to give Steve the chance to go to 3 figures by NOT declaring at the break. I let them come out for a couple of overs. BUT Woakes is determined not to let the fantasy go forward. He has the keeper LBW in his secoond over for 97. Taking 4 for 60 Chris Woakes keeps Steve under the 100 and keeps the lead to a mere 454.
One hour and 42 minutes to Tea as Warwickshire come out to take on this total. Craig Overton and Lewis Gregory are there to meet Sibley and Rhodes. Lewis produces a 'peach' at 19 to remove Sibley clean bowled. Ian Bell has a better start than his first innings one as he puts Overton out of the ground.
Jack Brooks takes over for the 12th and we see RvdM in the 13th. Bell brings up the 50 with a boundary drive but Rhodes is caught by Bartlett at slip off a leading edge for 28 at 61 for 2. Tom Abell comes on for the 24th and he clean bowls Bell in his first over - a change in pace gets the England man for 31.
At Tea it is 75 for 3 (379 behind) and an uphill battle for the home side.
Lewis and COve are back on for the start of the third session and Hain is looking like a more settled batsman who is willing to fight for this one. Pollock, his partner, is dropped - or probably a four is saved - by a wide second slip but the pair start to mmove the score towards 100. At 93, Gregory clean bowls Hain for 22 while once Warwickshire are the other side of 100, Overton has Pollock caught and bowled at 105 for 17. The same bowler has Ambrose worried almost inmmediately but he is digging in.
The 40th over sees RvdM on for a more protracted spell even though Adam Hose takes to him in his early overs. Brooks rejoins himm for the 43rd and has Hose 'dead in the water' in front for 20 at 134 for 6. He then gets Woakes snicking behind for 6 at 146 and Miles LBW the very next ball. 8 down and less than 150 on the board - this game has gone!!
The 150 comes up and Gregory takes up the mantle for the 55th. Ambrose is still fighting but the hard working RvdM finally gets him for 34 at 168 some 286 behind. 2 more runs are added before the day ends. The PC does not allow for the extra half hour I am afraid so we have to come back for Day 4!!
It takes Lewis two balls to send Patel back to the hutch LBW (5) and the game is over without addition. 170 all out, Warwickshire are hammered by 282 runs after looking strong at the end of Day 1. Azhar Ali is the Man of the Match and Somerset should also thank Steve Davies for his phenomenal 97. Somerset are on top 39 points ahead with Yorkshire coming to Taunton for the next FAKE game. Hampshire are way behind in third. 3 games to go.....
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020:06:27:23:20:43 by Grockle.
Warks at home without the first or second string spinner (both called up for international duties)
So RvdM and Ali?
Everyone else is about Murali Vijay not yet available
No one on the injury list.
Does this side pick itself?
Apparently Goldsworthy took wickets at a miserly rate for England Under-19s in the winter. It would be quite a gamble, but if Warks have Patel there may be a bit of dust on the pitch before very long, There usually is if he is playing. It would mean two left-armers so not ideal. Azhar performed brilliantly with his leg spin for us in the RLODC Play-off last year but will his bowling hold up over four days? He has a Test match temperament so it may well. He might be the best option, but Goldsworthy might be worth a thought. It is the sort of thing that is inclined to come off. With vdM and Azhar also in the side it would give us something to respond to Patel with and keep us on the offensive, which Championship-chasing sides should be.
Just a thought at the moment.
Edit: Had not seen pitch conditions when I wrote that but I would still be inclined to think about Goldsworty, if available. The spinners have been taking a lot of wickets in this fantasy league.
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Mike Carberry has 17 wickets with spin
There's a youngster called J Ramshaw - an off spinner who I have never heard of but he has been sent up to the first team from the Academy. No first class record at all
And there's Max.
If it means anything, wickets should come easily and to counter this I would like to play an extra batsman in this match. We also have Leach who I suggest should bowl much of the overs, particularly at the end. After his absence, I would expect him to take about half the overall wickets and Gregory maybe 4. Cove and Jove should benefit from the pitch as well.
Given our strong league position and that Warwickshire is the weakest side we are still to face, this is a good opportunity imo for Banton to return. I would also entertain Farmer's suggestion of introducing 1 or 2 players from the seconds, but probably not on this occasion.
Therefore: Ali, Byrom, Bartlett, Hildreth, Abell, Banton, Davies, Gregory, Cove, Jove, Leach
One further issue is the weather on the first day, I would consider asking Warwickshire to bat. if we get them out cheaply and amass a large score, then hopefully our final run chase will be minimal
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Van de Merwe
Jack is 24.15 Econ 2.7 Dom 28.83 3.37 RvdM 35.25 3.99
Not sure about Ramshaw because we know nothing about him whereas we do know something about Goldsworthy, although to a degree the same argument I put in favour of Goldsworthy can be put for Ramshaw, namely the potential impact of debut spinners, and Ramshaw does turn it the opposite way from vdM. So, to that degree I would be tempted. I wouldn't consider Max Waller because he has never developed a stock ball. That could cost dearly in red ball cricket.
I have a question in my mind about Jamie O. How many games on the trot has he had? Does he need a rest? In any event, we will need him fresh for the run in, given we have Yorkshire, Hampshire at Southampton and Essex to come after this, so I would want his firepower for all three of those games.
It goes hard against the grain but I wonder, given the pitch, whether this is one of those rare cases where we should consider a seventh batsman and use Azhar in a different role, namely as an attacking bowler and a specialist batsman against their spinners. He played a brilliant, one of my remember-for-all-time, innings against Ashwin at Taunton last year. That would mean batting him at six and bringing in an opener. I don't like batting people out of position. I am not sure it is often that successful, but this would be for positive reasons and give him the responsibilty for carrying out two key roles, so it just might work here. It might help the team too to know they were going in with an attacking, rather than a defensive, response to the loss of two key players. Assuming the software considers such things.
I undestand the push to bring Banton in, for a number of reasons - that he could turn a low-scoring game in an hour being one - and a bit of me wants to see how the software reads him. If we had the seventh batsman, and Azhar went to six to deal with the spin, he would have to open. However, given Carberry's record in this fantasy stuff before he was injured I wonder if he would be the better bet to open.
Can't make suggestions without at least saying what I would do if the decision were mine, so my team is below. Davey rather than Brooks for Overton as a one-off because with seven batsmen we may need someone who can bowl longish spells. Banton for Carberry I wouldn't argue much against, neither would I argue too strongly against not resting Overton. I would worry a bit more about Ramshaw because, tempting though it is, he is a complete unknown.
van der Merwe
A risk, but with no Leach or Bess I think a risk of some description or other will have to be taken. Perhaps Craig O above vdM.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020:06:22:17:31:21 by nelliec.
.Just bring in an extra batsman
Replace with an untried spinner or Max who could be expensive.
Add Brooke’s or Davey
Batting wise Banton or Carberry For Ali or Bess.
Personally I would take the safety first option and go in with one spinner plus Ali and Banto
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No Leach makes the proposition of 4 bowlers a greater risk, but I feel one that is worth taking. Farmer’s idea of bringing back Carberry is really intriguing, but Ali has excelled as opener and I wouldn’t want to change his position. Probably we need to go for Banton, surely he cannot finish the season averaging 10? Other than that Kervezee could come in lower down the order.
It would be a brave decision not to play a spinner and Gregory to me is essential. The point of resting Jove is sensible with Yorkshire, Hampshire and Essex on the horizon. However we need to get the 20 wickets and given that Brooks has taken more than Davey, he gets my nod.
Revised side: Ali, Byrom, Bartlett, Hildreth, Abell, Banton, Davies, Gregory, Cove, vdM, Brooks
This simulation seems to have very high first innings scores for the side batting first. Can we limit them somehow to 250 and then get 320? A Warwickshire second innings collapse for 100 would leave us needing 30?
That is the thinking anyhow: outscore them with our strength in batting and let the pitch do the rest. Though if we batted first and made 250, then maybe they could collapse first innings?
Another outcome is we get totally hammered for lack of wicket taking... that is what this discussion is about. I call it covering my posterior, others may refer to it as due diligence
We are still working on our 2020 perceptions versus the 2019 perceptions of the PC to some extent.
The general consensus seems to be to opt for RvdM as the only spinner and not opt for an unknown youngster or Max at first class (history would suggest that the machine would assume he would be expensive - though if it wasn't an important match it might be worth the experiment).
The only 2 questions seem to be
Davey or Brooks - with this pitch I'm not sure I'd personally go with Brooks
Carberry or Banton - extra man at 7 though I would not move Davies from 6 after Yorkshire
I'd also not put Carberry at 7, he would have to open with Ali - meaning moving Eddie to 7!
We could of course go with both Carberry AND Banton offering Carberry as another possible slow man IF the pitch does take spin in the second half.
What are your thought selectors. I'd like to run this game from TOMORROW if possible.
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6. Davies (wk) or ??
7.?? or Davies (wk)
8. Craig Overton
10. Jamie Overton
Perm any three from Byrom, Banton, Carberry, Davey, Brooks
Ali, Byrom, Bartlett, Hildreth, Abell, Banton, Davies, Gregory, Cove, vdM, Brooks
It isn't ideal, but none of the suggestions are because of the impossibility of replacing Leach and Bess on a pitch that will probably turn. I would be happy with Davies at six or seven. There are arguments either way.
Whatever the team, have a toss, and if we win it then bat. There are only rare occasions when I would insert, and this isn't one of them. If the pitch is going to deteriorate, use the best of it, and get the runs on the board early (Ask WG). Inserting would put huge pressure on our depleted bowling attack, and on our batsmen if Warwickshire got away. Runs on the board would take the pressure off vdM and Azhar and give them time to apply some pressure on batsmen facing the pressure of a decent total on a pitch that is unlikely to improve.
Would also swap Jamie for Gregory (not on your list Grockle)
Ask for a toss. If we win we bat.
Use Ali if required and Eddie at a push.
I won't drop Steve down or put Tom in front of Lewis based on PC stats in this season.
Day 1 not wonderful.... report will be there a little later.
But Cove did a little to redress the balance with 2 for 14 before the end of play Bell out first ball.
Do we enforce? 156 runs ahead with 2 days and 2 sessions to go? I'll leave it for an hour or so....
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This pitch is going to deteriorate as the game progresses.
Difficult one, I would ask them to follow on, but when we did that against Kent... they made 350+. It wouldn't be nice to chase 200 on this pitch.
However, I don't expect Warwickshire to score that many. Are they bottom in the division?
Ali's innings is interesting. Sounds like a very similar performance to the one against Ashwin last year.
We didn't and we go into lunch at 16 for 0 172 ahead.
I didn't because we have effectively a 4 man bowling attack and we were where we were because of Craig (It was 5 for 20 by the way Lewis got 3 for 30). We also went into this one with an extra batsman and the bats hadn't exactly been pushed first innings.
Also, except for Miles the Warks attack had been pretty toothless as well. Would like something over 300 ahead at the end of Day 2 and then a smash before lunch and put them in for 5 sessions. As long as the weather doesn't play a part we've been pretty good at getting the best of sides in that scenario.
BUT we'll have to see
I do think that captains who choose not to enforce not infrequently leave their declaration too late, possibly out of a desire not to give the opposition a sniff having already taken the safety-first option; Ponting regularly did this (and was sometimes rescued by the quality of his bowlers), and it was one of several factors in our failure to finish of Warw in the Hannon-Dalby draw (or should I say the Nick Cook draw) the other year.
Do we get to decide when to declare, should the match situation warrant it, or is that in the hands of our virtual skipper now we've taken the major strategic decision?
Mike Carberey back in for Eddie next match perhaps? Or Bants up front?
Is it possible to bring Banton up the order for this innings?
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Ali gets past 50 before he goes.
George Bartlett also goes past 50 before he goes.
Somerset finish on 182 for 4. 338 ahead with Steve Davies and Tom Abell in for tomorrow morning.
I'd have everyone going for it tomorrow!! Tell Tom to put the anchor down and then have Steve, Lewis, Tom, RvdM and Craig give it the long handle to push this score over 400 by lunch.
Then let the boys loose.
Hope Banton gets a few. There's a case to be made that Eddie is not getting runs up front and Mike Carberry and Tom may be making a case for a spot.
Tom Abell goes for 22.
We promote Tom Banton but Woakes bowls him for 1.
In comes Lewis ready to fire but Woakes bowls him for 1
So Roelof and Steve takes the score to a lead of 400 (with the sixes coming from the keeper) and then on from there to 450 at the end of the day with Davies on 97 and RvdM goind just before the Lunch break for 10.
I didn't declare. I cam back out to let SD get his hundred. BUT Woakes has him LBW for 97 so we declare with a lead of 454.
Well it was a fantasy game and we didn't really need to declare at a certain point. Not sure Warwickshire would have seen it that way though.
None of that is based on any statistics, so may be wide of the mark, but it is an impression which has built up over the years.
As it was it made no difference to him or Lewis as Woakes took them both out while on a roll
454 needed for a Warks victory
Sibley gone at 19 Gregory
Rhodes gone at 61Gregory
Bell gone at 67 Abell
75 for 3 at Tea
Hain gone 93 Gregory
Pollock gone 105 Overton
Hose gone 134 Brooks
Woakes gone 146 Brooks
Miles gone 146 Brooks
Ambrose gone 168 RvdM
End of Day 3 (no half hour option) 170 for 9
I think this one is done?
170 all out Somerset win by 282 runs
Somerset 215 points
Hampshire into third 147
11 games played 3 to go... NEXT YORKSHIRE @ Taunton!!
We need to continue with Banton, something tells me that he could become an England international one day. The likelihood is we won't see another average pitch next against Yorkshire, so need to be looking at resting a batsman
There you go, we've all jinxed it now
Edited to remove jinx
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We have all simply stated facts. No jinx there, although an edit to 'if we draw with Yorkshire' in your last post might be even safer. Not that I am superstitious. Perish the thought ...
Long may it continue.
I plan to run the Yorkshire game from Tuesday so any changes need sorting.
Presently I am assuming the bowling stays mostly the same though there may be a seam change or two?
The only batting conversation would be about a top 3 change perhaps and the nature of number 8.